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Hello, TomahF!
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Hello, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. This is just a note to let you know that I've moved the draft that you were working on to Draft:Timeline of mechanical engineering innovation, from its old location at User:TomahF/Timeline of mechanical engineering innovation. This has been done because the Draft namespace is the preferred location for Articles for Creation submissions. Please feel free to continue to work on it there. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to ask me on my talk page. Thank you. UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:15, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello there. I have disabled categories on your draft, Draft:Timeline of mechanical engineering innovation, two times over the past week or so. Please ensure your draft does not have categories on. Make the categories look like the correct example instead of the incorrect one.
Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 19:52, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
OK; sorry. I assume that Categories can not be added until the draft is approved. Correct? Or was my format incorrect?
TomTomahF (talk) 21:10, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you copied or moved text from Allis-Chalmers Model WC into Draft:Timeline of mechanical engineering innovation. While you are welcome to re-use Wikipedia's content, here or elsewhere, Wikipedia's licensing does require that you provide attribution to the original contributor(s). When copying within Wikipedia, this is supplied at minimum in an edit summary at the page into which you've copied content, disclosing the copying and linking to the copied page, e.g., copied content from [[page name]]; see that page's history for attribution
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Diannaa,
I did copy a minor passage on the Allis-Chalmers Model WC, but then modified the passage based upon personal research. I published a book that documents the history of the company, etc. However, I did retain the number of tractors produced and the years, from this site, so you are right, I should have provided attribution. I'll do so. Thanks.
TomTomahF (talk) 13:12, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
Hello TomahF! Your additions to Draft:Timeline of mechanical engineering innovation have been removed in whole or in part, as they appear to have added copyrighted content without evidence that the source material is in the public domain or has been released by its owner or legal agent under a suitably-free and compatible copyright license. (To request such a release, see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission.) While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from sources to avoid copyright and plagiarism issues.
It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. — Diannaa (talk) 15:31, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
Diannaa,
I believe I understand the policy, which I certainly support. I did amend the item to provide appropriate citation. I didn't meant to suggest that I was arguing against making the change.
Thanks for your help on these matters.
Tom
REPLY: I need some help here. I have been trying for the last month to refine my draft submission, and to address various comments. Your comment that: "This scores 92% on Earwig's Copyvio detector" is interesting, but I frankly don't know what it means, or how to address it. Nor do I know how I am supposed to communicate with you. This has gotten pretty frustrating. I'm trying to submit some useful content to Wikipedia, on behalf of the history and heritage committee of the American Society of Mechanical Engineers. Tom
REPLY:
I have been making numerous changes to address the various issues and believe they have largely been resolved:
The content of this Draft Wiki-page has largely been prepared from sources that I have previously created on behalf of the History and Heritage Committee of the American Society of Mechanical Engineers, or from the sister mechanical engineering organization in England. I have been refining the content and plan to continue to do so, as time permits, but I think it is ready to be released.
Keep in mind that the proposed wikipage is a LIST of significant mechanical engineering accomplishments in society. Almost all of these accomplishments likely appear individually elsewhere on the web--many on Wikipedia sites. I have avoided lifting text directly--this is supposed to be a quick summary of the items, not a full recitation. I have attempted to reference and link to the majority of these other sites and will continue to add additional link. [In fact, if these 1,800 engineering accomplishments were not recognized elsewhere, it would suggest that this is not a valid listing.]
I believe this proposed timeline is similar to how other Wikipedia timelines appear.
I have added the sources I am replying upon, and have been providing numerous references and links.
Thom, just saw your response to this - I'm afraid text from the IMechE website is not considered acceptable use for Wikipedia, because the website has a copyright notice - "© 2021 Institution of Mechanical Engineers". You will have to rephrase the text in your own words. I did notice that we have another page similar to yours, Timeline of historic inventions, I'm not sure if we need both pages. It might make more sense to expand the existing page with your information. --Cerebellum (talk) 02:11, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
Gotcha, the approach is definitely valid! Thank you for telling me about the Timeline of electrical and electronic engineering page, that helped me understand what you are doing :) For interacting with commenters, you can actually reply right here, that will keep the conversation in one place. --Cerebellum (talk) 09:34, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
QUESTION: How do you know when a response is posted here? I assume you track this page? (I'm still trying to figure out how comments/replies work, and the best practices.
Tom
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