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ubmaurya 09:35, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
This article does not contains any copy righted material. This is my own NGO and legally registered with Government of Uttar Pradesh, India.
Then please create this article, Shanti Nandan Bauddha Welfare society I will provide all information, registration certificate, pan card and project details. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ubmaurya (talk • contribs) 14:49, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi Timtrent, thank you for your review. I understood that most of my references in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:QNAP_Systems,_Inc. are about the products not the company as you pointed out. I would like to know how I can improve because this is the fact--we do have lots of news/media talking about our products, but not much on the company. However, we are one of the major & notable players in this industry (and I noticed other brands also have similar structure as ours but still accepted by wikipedia); also mentioned in several wikipages labeling us as "large NAS manufacturers". " Are there any tips or directions I can work on to make this page online? Please kindly advise. Thank you very much! Bondachs (talk) 16:10, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi Timtrent,
This is regarding my draft article on Meghna Patel Please help me to understand what more I need to add to my article to get your approval. I have added citations linking to youtube is there any other source you would like me to add.
Thanks, Kiran
Kirankkadam (talk) 17:57, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
I'm trying to cite the two sentences in the second paragraph and am having trouble linking the [cite] at the end of the sentence to the [1], [2] at the bottom under references. I have all the news articles properly filled out under the "named references/cite news" template, but when I click on the [1] or [2] nothing happens. Can you help? Thanks
Tgweeze (talk) 21:37, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
Reply
204.16.157.10 (talk) 22:07, 30 June 2014 (UTC) Ah yes--I do see now! Sorry, not used to the Wikipedia interface. I based the article pretty closely on those of other tech consultancies and tried to make it as unbiased as possible. I didn't say anything remotely subjective--just the facts. Is there a way to make it more encyclopedia-appropriate?
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REPLY (not sure if this is how to do this)
Got it! Thanks for your help, and sorry about the mix up. I'll try to improve it.
Thanks for your kind and supportive comments about my first pathetic efforts at posting. I've followed the directions as best I could, and edited as best I might in the hope my piece on The Authors Road meets muster. I look forward to the next round.
George GHMason12 (talk) 00:28, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
Thank you very much for helping me with my first article. I will definitely use your suggestions. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slyvs (talk • contribs) 01:19, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
Asking for a re-review because per the composers verification standards listed in wiki, we qualify. We've been music producers/writers on several gold/platinum selling albums (3LW's 3LW, Sisqo's Unleash The Dragon and more. We're cited all over wikipedia for all productions included in the very extensive discography. We included the article from the Hollywood reporter making reference to our partnership with Troy Carter (Lady Gaga's ex manager) forming Atom Factory Music Licensing, verifying our music production status. We also included an article from billboard magazine August 13, 2005 issue, where they interviewed us. Not sure of how to provide better reliable sources than those digitally. Music Production credit's (i.e Produced by The Co-Stars) aren't very accessible online. Should be fair to estimate via the reliable sources provided and the amount pages showing us as music producers inside wiki. Not sure if you were confused because we labeled the page as The Co-Stars Ent., Inc (our complete legal corporation name)? If so, we can just use The Co-Stars for the wikipedia page, if that's more verifyable.
Neelythecostars (talk) 12:52, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
Thank you sooo much! Can you possibly check the changes I made? I think I may have solved the problems after going to the links you provided.. Thanks again!!!!!! So helpful!!!!!
Dear Timtrent,
I appreciate your comments regarding the deficiencies you found in the draft article. However, your comments and suggestions, like all those I have received during the considerable amount of time I have spent attainmenting top place this article, are mutually contradictory. I have stripped out and modified all text with even the slightest hint of marketing tone, as was requested in previous critiques. I have removed all references that were not from legitimate, respected, independent and well-established sources. Now even that is not enough. I'm sorry you don't know what the company does, but your particular lack of recognition is irrelevant. All terms of art are cross linked to other Wikipedia articles. It is beyond imagining that any reader, coming upon this article by chance, would care one wit that the purpose and nature of eFront software was not immediately understandable. Only those readers with knowledge of and interest in the industry will have any use for the content of the article.
Suppose I altered the opening paragraph to read "eFront Financial Solutions is a software provider for the alternative investments and risk management areas of the financial services industry[1]. Its web-based software products automate many accounting, management and operational functions of private equity, venture capital and other alternative investment management firms. It was founded in 1999 and now serves more than 700 customers in 40 countries from offices in North America, South America, the Middle East, Africa, Asia and Australia." Would that be acceptable? Even if it is, I am still left with the problem of providing acceptable references. Unfortunately, the references I chose are the only ones that meet the requirements. I have no other to offer at this time and, as I said earlier, all are from established and independent sources. True, they are industry-specific sources, but that would be the case with nearly all companies, especially privately-held companies, not listed in the Fortune 1000.
So please, before I give in to frustration and abandon Wikipedia completely, tell me what I really need to do to have this article approved!
Thank you,
Patriarch2013 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patriarch2013 (talk • contribs) 17:06, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
Thank you so much, that was a huge help. You are awesome.
Tgweeze (talk) 19:53, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
How can I find my submission with your feedback on it? I Can't find it anywhere… please advise. thanks. Kendrafutcher (talk) 21:21, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
Kendrafutcher (talk) 21:21, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
Rupert4471 (talk) 09:00, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello,
I must have submitted the page twice by mistake. But when I click on the link to the other submission, the page is blank. So what to do now? No news yet from anyone... Thanks for your help.
Rupert4471 (talk) 09:00, 1 July 2014 (UTC)Rupert4471
Thank you for your prompt reply. I am pretty sure to be the author of both articles. Do you see an IP address for Draft:Ulf Langheinrich ? This first one hasn't been reviewed yet and now the situation seems to be blocked because of my mistake. Anyway I cannot see the content of Draft:Ulf Langheinrich because it is empty. Strange... isn't it possible to remove the first to go ahead? Thanks again for your help. Rupert4471 (talk) 13:10, 1 July 2014 (UTC)Rupert4471
Sorry I can see now the content of the page Draft:Ulf Langheinrich ... this is my first version without references. The second article submitted includes references. This is the most updated. Can you review this instead of the first one?
Thank you
Rupert4471 (talk) 13:36, 1 July 2014 (UTC)Rupert4471
Hi, User:Rupert4471/sandbox is the correct one because the most updated as I said. But I would like to make sure the title of the article will be "Ulf Langheinrich" on wikipedia. Is it well the title? I am confused. Thanks in advance, Rupert4471 (talk) 12:18, 2 July 2014 (UTC)Rupert4471
Thank you very much!!! Rupert4471 (talk) 14:19, 2 July 2014 (UTC)Rupert4471
Hi Tim. The reason I pinged you here was basically to say go ahead and decline it now. (I've examined the refs in detail). I don't have access to the AFC script. Otherwise, I'd do it myself. The links in Italian were for the benefit of the IP. Basically, within 3 days of the article being salted and the creator and his IP socks blocked at the Italian WP, he came over here to try it on. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:40, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
The Articles for Creation barnstar | ||
For your tireless work at AFC and AFCH.--ukexpat (talk) 18:02, 2 July 2014 (UTC) |
Dear Timtrent, I've removed the two categories as you suggested. With regard to the multiple references, I put them at the end of the sentence but they don't just refer to Columbia University for example. They refer to the whole list of organisations. Please check the references, you will find that they are all necessary because each of them refers to one or more (but not all) organisations in the list). I'm resubmitting the article, I can't find a way of contacting you directly. Thank you.
Lulu 19:08, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi Tim,
Hope I'm putting this in the right place. I've read your response about stating in the article's personal section that Mr Weisbrodt is gay and link my reference to this. However I've decided that I'd rather remove the sexuality categories instead (Gay men and LGBT people from Germany). I've now done that so I hope you can give my article the go ahead. I've also just had confirmation that the photos' permission emails are being arranged. Thank you.
Lulu 10:13, 3 July 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SongsforLulu (talk • contribs)
Hi Timetrent. I am responding to the message you left me in the Teahouse yesterday titled "Reliable Sources" as well as the input you provided on this page that I am working to get published: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/GCFLearnFree.org
First, thank you for your kind note in The Teahouse. I did not see the additional guidance you left on the page. I've read the WS:RS page and gained some good insight. I wonder if I can clarify the sources with you before I edit again.
Based on the article I read, I believe that these sources should be removed. Correct?
Also, there was a recent feature of the page subject on a TV news program. This would be an acceptable source addition, correct? http://www.wncn.com/video?clipId=10181442&autostart=true
Again, I appreciate your help. If there is anything else you see that would keep this from being published, please let me know. I'm learning a lot in the process and am thankful for your patience. 18:29, 1 July 2014 (UTC)LauraMcAliley (talk)
Hi Timetrent. I am responding to the message you left me in the Teahouse yesterday titled "Reliable Sources" as well as the input you provided on this page that I am working to get published: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/GCFLearnFree.org
First, thank you for your kind note in The Teahouse. I did not see the additional guidance you left on the page. I've read the WS:RS page and gained some good insight. I wonder if I can clarify the sources with you before I edit again.
Based on the article I read, I believe that these sources should be removed. Correct?
Also, there was a recent feature of the page subject on a TV news program. This would be an acceptable source addition, correct? http://www.wncn.com/video?clipId=10181442&autostart=true
Again, I appreciate your help. If there is anything else you see that would keep this from being published, please let me know. I'm learning a lot in the process and am thankful for your patience. 18:47, 1 July 2014 (UTC)LauraMcAliley (talk)
Remember, we ALL want new articles here. The trick is getting them good enough to leap all the hurdles in their way. Fiddle Faddle 19:56, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
Your decline comment on Draft:Susan_Lee_MacDonald was raised on AfC talk but it wasn't mentioned by name and you were not mentioned by name either. I happened to go look in the backlog for something to work on and I stumbled across it. Anyway we don't require every factual claim in a BLP to have a citation, much less an independent one. Maybe we should, but that's not what the policy is or the practice. Gigs (talk) 17:19, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
Re: This AFC decline: Thanks for endorsing my June 24 decline. However, to answer your question: "Search engine optimization." Sigh.
[rant] I wish search engines would stop treating all Wikipedia articles as high-value pages/high-value links just because they are in Wikipedia. If they did that, then we would have a lot less SEO-driven article-creation of pages that don't belong. [/rant]. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 16:42, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi, Maggie has sent me a confirmation via email - hope its enough. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Toby Lott (talk • contribs) 10:40, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello Timtrent,
Good Morning, Need your support in order to improve the article that i have created. This is the article that i have created.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Indiranagar_Sangeetha_Sabha
It got declined by the reviwer and he has dropped the following message.
You can't copy and paste lines from sources. This is copyright infringement or at least plagiarism. You need to write articles using your own words. I will not tag your draft for deletion, but please do not resubmit it without removing every phrase that was copied from sources. Gigs (talk) 17:33, 3 July 2014 (UTC).
In one of the section "Activities" i have used the statistice which has been given in a relaible news paper article, as the reviwer said that it may leads to copyright infringment i removed that sentance and changed the entire section. I haven't submitted it again, as i want some other reviwer ti check it once.
I provided all the reliable sources according to the wiki norms.
Could you please review the article and let me know any changes are required so that i can submitt it again.
Thanks in Advance Anjali — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anjali Reddy J (talk • contribs) 04:39, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello Timtrent,
Thank you so much for spending time on reviewing the article. I have removed that line where i have mentioned about the statistics of the school(like number of students etc.,). I used that line as there is nothing much i can add in that line about figures and it is in the source itself which is a relable one. But, as per reviwers suggetion, i have removed that completly and now what ever there in the article i wrote in my own words, nothing from the source i copied and pasted. I tried to write in neautral tone only. I have messaged to Gigs, yet to get his response on that.
Thanks & Regards Anjali — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anjali Reddy J (talk • contribs) 08:48, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello Timtrent,
Thank you for your valuable suggestions, now i had added the comment part the way you suggested me, hope so now the reviewer will be satisfied with the changes i did for the article.
Thanks & Regards Anjali — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anjali Reddy J (talk • contribs) 12:40, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi TimTrent, thanks for your review of the Entelo, Inc. Draft. Per your recommendation, I have removed two of the sources that were 'regurgitated PR', and added one instance of coverage from a more reputable and independent source. All sources now include mention of the organization. RobertStevensonJr (talk) 19:04, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for uploading File:K H Sahay from the Open Library.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).
Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Stefan2 (talk) 23:40, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Who said "it will be essential that this talk page, containing the attribution, is moved to the main [for main read talk:!] namespace when the article is accepted"? So why wasn't it moved? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:13, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
My point was that you did a copy&paste of the talk page when you should have done a move. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:38, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
The article currently under Henry Dunay is about the man, but this submission clearly states that this is about the company. We chose this route because both Salvatore Ferragamo (the man) and Salvatore Ferragamo (the brand and company founded by Salvatore Ferragamo) also have separate wiki pages. Could you please have another look and let me know your thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ankitsjain1 (talk • contribs) 17:17, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
Dear Timtrent. For some reason my previous message sent a few minutes back has disappeared from your talk page. I think there is some progress getting the Richard Pine draft improved. My apologies if a message of this kind has already appeared. I wanted to ask you if there is still an issue of 'tone' or an implication that I've got 'promotion' in mind. You say it's difficult to define these things but going back over other articles written by me I find it difficult to see how my prose style differs in the Pine draft from others by me on Wiki - Denys Rayner. Black Patch Park, Jack Hargreaves. Give me an actual example in the draft - just one phrase would help. This subject has a publication list of considerable length all but one now linked, and I have added citations to two references. Can't we get this draft floated on Wiki so that it can run the gauntlet of more public attention and your continued overview? Pine is a reclusive man with what seems to me on the basis of his publications and reviews of his work to have made a significant contribution to Irish letters as well as founding the Durrell School of Corfu. I also wanted to ask you about disambiguation as there are several other Richard Pines and another called Richard Pine-Coffin. How do you do disambiguation? Can you apply it in connection with a draft article? Simon Baddeley (talk) 20:59, 8 July 2014 (UTC) Simon
I have dug out a letter about, and to, Pine by the late Nobel prize-winning poet Seamus Heaney and am working on making this handwritten letter citable. I'm wondering if the fact that Pine's repute in Ireland may be obscuring his notability. Google "Richard Pine" + "Irish literature" Richard Pine and Irish Literature or "richard pine" + "brian friel" Richard Pine + Brian Friel See how many hits you get. Prolific in Ireland - in letters, theatre and music and known further afield for his critical work on Gerald and Lawrence Durrell. I'll work on the career section. Simon Baddeley (talk) 23:26, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
Timtrent hi. Can you look at my attempts to cite, as a reference on my draft about Richard Pine, the personal letter to him from Seamus Heaney and advise on improvement? BTW, I now have verbal permission from the subject to create a Wiki article about him. How about publishing the submission and letting me go on working on this as with Aristeidis Metallinos? (:)) You can always delete some or all of it if it fails to come up to standard. Simon Baddeley (talk) 11:07, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for your helpful info. I have a few questions about citations. If the artist has a PDF of a historical news article (that isn't available elsewhere online for viewing), should I link to it? Also, my references section shows the links after the title, whereas in other Wiki articles the text is a hyperlink and it looks much cleaner. Am I formatting it wrong? I've been using the citation templates. Thanks in advance - still new at this, but really looking forward to being a part of the community. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artistsfriend (talk • contribs) 18:55, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
((cite web))
: External link in |website=
(help); Missing or empty |url=
(help)Thank you so much! You answered all of my questions - what a great resource! Artistsfriend (talk) 19:16, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Please tell me exactly how many sources you require. I have witnessed numerous Wiki pages with much, much less. This is a globally adopted Project Management Framework, so I am not sure what is the issue. If you could be very explicit, I would appreciate the direction. Thank you.Betchplus (talk) 12:10, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
The last intention I have is to be aggressive. However, I have been trying to get this article back online for 5 days now, while receiving one ambiguous response after another. As a member of the technology world, it just should not be this difficult to post an article to help the public. If I sounded aggressive it was not my intention, it is nothing but frustration concerning many indirect answers that appear to be very subjective. If you could give me an exact number, it would be very appreciated, since I can't use other sites as a standard. Thank you and I appreciate the prompt response. Betchplus (talk) 12:24, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Let me start by apologizing, because I realize many of you are trying to help. I think it is those individuals, that have been somewhat insulting to my valid questions, have tried my patience. There are many of us who have a lot to contribute to Wiki, but not a lot of time. I have found that I am having to become a Wiki Expert to just submit an Article that I believe will help many, many IT professionals. In the end, I do appreciate all of you who are trying to assist in a positive manner, and hope those, who are less than helpful and derogatory, are somehow re-trained to help, not hinder the site and the contributors.Betchplus (talk) 13:13, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Its a start, thank you!Betchplus (talk) 13:43, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
About a month ago, you rejected my AfC submission for Image Studio Lite and posted comments on my talk page. Per the instructions at the top of your talk page, I left a reply to these comments on my page. However, I have not heard anything back.
Could you please let me know if you will be able to help answer the questions I posted?
If so, I think we are on the same "page" that it would be best to contain this thread to my talk page after this. Thanks for your time.
Sam at LI-COR (talk) 14:06, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
@Timtrent: Thanks for the rapid fire reply.
I understand your comments about the article, and I am in no way attempting to refute them. What I am trying to do is get some guidance from an experienced Wikipedia editor on how to resolve a major conundrum. Any help you can provide on the following is greatly appreciated:
No primary sources can exist for the operation of this program other than my company’s documentation. However, this does not mean the Lite Sfw is not notable, as I mentioned there are 10K users and many journal publications cite it.
So, how can I prove notability using these journal publications? The solution I proposed is to add a section outlining the ways IS Lite has been used by the scientific community. References could then be moved from “Further reading” to the actual “References section”. But, the problem remains that I can’t add inline non-company sources for the sections of this article that talk about how the thing works!
Do you have thoughts on this? Thanks again.
Sam at LI-COR (talk) 20:31, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
@Timtrent: Sorry, I'm seeing two different scenarios here. Let me see if I can break this down. 1) For the operation of the software, wouldn't company documentation be the only useful reference? For example, I base my claim on the references mentioned in the "Overview" and "Components" sections of Autodesk Maya's wiki page. These are references to their support material. The overview and components sections of this page are essentially what I have now in the IS lite article. 2) To establish notability for the software and its applications from non-primary references, would it be sufficient for me to add a section that outlines its uses and extensively reference journal publications? Or, would I still be turned down because I didn't reference non-primary sources for the sections of the article that talk about the operation of the software. Phew. Thanks for you help. Sam at LI-COR (talk) 21:05, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
@Timtrent: Thanks for being patient. This issue is subtle, but I sense we're on the same wavelength now! So, let's say I still believe that the most useful article for the wiki community would include the stuff about the software's operation. Would adding the "Uses" section I referred to earlier move me closer to the 60% chance of passing mark? By the way, I'm not sure when this stopped being about writing an article and starting being about my moral prerogative to halt the fall of civilization into Idiocracy, but I can assure you I will bear this burden with honor... Sam at LI-COR (talk) 13:52, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
@Timtrent: I think your answer is the answer to a question I may have been subconsciously trying to avoid. All the material I have included is useful, but it may not be possible to get it to pass as an article. Your statement "...slim the draft down to a state where it can and will be easy to accept, rather than adding other material which may not have the benefit of the precise style of referencing we need." pretty much sums up my next move. I will remove much of the content that has only primary references, with the intend to consensus it in later, and liberally sprinkle in uses that have non-primary sources. The transformation won't be overnight, but I'll ping you when I've resubmitted the thing, just as an FYI. I appreciate your help with this, advice from an 8+ year wiki editor is what I needed to proceed with this article. Thanks, Sam at LI-COR (talk) 14:32, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
@Timtrent: I will definitely continue to be transparent about my associations. It is better for me and the wiki community that I'm honest about who I am. I'll definitely learn to use the Request edit template. Thanks for the advice. Sam at LI-COR (talk) 21:35, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello Timtrent, I just wanted to inform you, that i did "undo" your deletion of "the mode of operation" in the Cantata++ article. I worked on the article this night and found some new references which are, in my opinion, useful and good sources. Maybe you could have a look on it and tell me what you're thinking about it. The thing is, that the mode of operation is an important part of the software, so I would not like to kick it out. I may work on it again, but if you CAN agree with me, maybe you could let it just for now. ...It's a little mess at this moment, because I worked hard on the article and now it's going to be deleted, so I'm still working and correcting it. Please be patient with me ;-). Best regards, QARon (talk) 13:22, 4 July 2014 (UTC) .
Hi, on top of the article there is written a note that it includes some "Bare URLs". I tried to understand what that means but I'm not sure whether I did understand. The article just had some URLs for reference with no further description of them. I added the description and also the date of calling the website. Does this now meet the notabilities? Or what do I have to do exactly? Maybe you can have a look at it. I would appreciate a short comment about to give me some "instructions". Thanks! QARon (talk) 08:40, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi Timtrent. You trusted the article on Richard Pine for publication on my assurance of further work on tone and citations. How do you think it is coming along? I'm relieved that Richard Pine is himself happy for this to proceed. Indeed has been helping me dig out missing citations, several of which have now been added. Do you think the article needs disambiguation given the entry on Richard Pine-Coffin Simon Baddeley (talk) 15:49, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Respected Sir/Madam,
I am writing the autobiography of my father (Brigadier Sikandar Khan) and all the information in the article is first hand knowledge that I personally have about my father. I did not refer to any outside source and I did not get any information from any outside source. The references that I have used in the autobiography of my father are just for the sole purpose of letting the readers know what he educational institutions he went to and to define the terms used in the autobiography.
Kindly, review it again and let me know if any more changes are required.
Thanking you in advance.
Regards,
Sheraz Khan.
Sherazkhan1988 (talk) 22:42, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Got it. I will resubmit it with external references.
Thank You.
Sherazkhan1988 (talk) 23:01, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi Timtrent. I am happy to see you reviewing articles. I noticed that you declined this article, Draft:Jan Wurm, on June 25 with this comment:
For a living person we have a higher standard of referencing. Every fact you assert requires a citation with a reference that is about them, and is independent of them, and is in WP:RS. P:ease examine your referencing to ensure it complies with these tough criteria
Inline references are required only for direct quotes and, for living people, in a only few other special cases. Everything does not need a reference. Only the notability references need to be independent of the person. As Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Reviewing instructions says:
1. Avoid declining an article because it correctly uses general references to support some or all of the material. The content and sourcing policies require inline citations for only four specific types of material, most commonly direct quotations and contentious material (whether negative, positive, or neutral) about living persons.
Except for direct quotes, in most cases new editors don't need to learn anything about putting in inline citations before their article is accepted. Of course those citations will be needed to improve the quality of the article. Happy reviewing. StarryGrandma (talk) 02:00, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
The article created is for a notable person and has valid citation and references.Article is quite neutral. Please let me know the exact the reason because of which article has not be created.
Didgeri (talk) 18:19, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello Anup,
I submitted a article with subject Ajay Data(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ajay_Data). Inspite of the fact that all the references were quite valid, it had been declined. Could you please help me out. It has been reviewed by someone else. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Didgeri (talk • contribs) 18:40, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi there, fiddlefaddle/ Tim Trent,
Thanks for your comments on my attempted article on John Todd Ferrier:
" Comment: For a living person we have a higher standard of referencing. Every substantive fact you assert, especially one that is susceptible to potential challenge, requires a citation with a reference that is about them, and is independent of them, and is in WP:RS. Since the gentleman is not living one could argue that our standards should differ, and they do. references are required rather than the extra mile of citations, but that is the sole difference.
"WIth the book, please use ((cite book))
: Empty citation (help) to avoid the spam link to Amazon, assuming it genuinely meets the reference criteria. Fiddle Faddle 08:01, 14 July 2014 (UTC)"
I believe JTFerrier is notable for reasons already implied in my text (influence through 'The Order of the Cross' etc) and the links to other articles as well as the explicit list of published ISBNs...
So, how much more do I need to get this up to an acceptable standard? Will using /cite book/ suffice?
Thanks, -Nick
Thanks for your helpful comments Timtrent. Please let me know if the latest draft is acceptable.
Aron barbey (talk) 15:49, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Sounds great, thanks!
Aron barbey (talk) 23:33, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Timtrent for your latest suggestion about referencing. I have removed some of the references and hope this is an improvement. Please let me know if I can be helpful and thanks again for suggestions!
Aron barbey (talk) 13:27, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Timtrent, your comments are much appreciated!
Aron barbey (talk) 14:18, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, Timtrent! I am sorry to have accidentally removed the comments from my submission. I hope it is still under review and happy to update it further if necessary. Thanks!
Aron barbey (talk) 14:26, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, you're the best!
Aron barbey (talk) 14:31, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello there,
I have edited my article Bruno Chikly based on your comments of June 27. It has been two weeks since I submitted it but I have not got any feedback. Could you please have a look and advise me about any issues?
Thanks for your help.
NomanZmprft (talk) 09:00, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
Dear TimTrent / AKA Fiddle Faddle of the typo fame.
Thank-you! All is now explained. I shall endeavour to comply.
Please excuse my denseness and put it down to a combination of inexperience and difficulty dealing with an interface that isn't quite as straightforward as it might be (I'm assuming that this is by deliberate design).
Yours sincerely,
The Brain Coach The Brain Coach (talk) 11:33, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi,
Could you please tell me the references which are not valid, so that I can work upon them. Also aware me with other flaws if the draft ajay data has. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Didgeri (talk • contribs) 15:02, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi Tim,
Thanks very much for your feedback on June 27. I took some time to reflect and go back to make edits as per your comments. For Trade Point, I did the following: [1] Removed all references pointing to Trade Point's own website to remove any bias. [2] Added ten (10) new external references with links to reputable industry websites discussing or reviewing Trade Point. [3] Added some new information under the history section. [4] Created a new section with external reviews I found on the web. [5] Fixed a red error in the references that was present in the previous version.
Regarding the XM article, I understand you liked the last version I had prepared and saw that you did not make any requests for changes. Nevertheless, during my research I did find some additional information that could strengthen this article too; I thus added a new reviews version, plus three (3) additional external references.
I believe that both articles are much more solid now and trust that they can be published. I am resubmitting them both now so you can take a look.
Thanks a lot for your help as always.
Cmanoli (talk) 21:00, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi Tim, thank you very much for your quick reply. I certainly understand and will be waiting for someone else to review the articles. Cmanoli (talk) 21:52, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
FYI: [1]. If you disagree please feel free to undo, but try to undo to a version that shows your comment. Thank you. Hasteur (talk) 19:55, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Timtrent for your thoughts on my first Wikipedia article. I was pretty nervous about doing this so I appreciate your thoughtful rejection. I am writing about this lawyer because it was her brief that was different than other approaches in the gay marriage debate--a notable achievement--but I see the point that it appears to be her only major achievement, the way I wrote the article. Thanks! I will revise! Someone did Mary Bunoto already (which is good) right as I was doing Roberta Kaplan, but I believe no one yet has actually done a page for Edith Windsor, who nearly won Time Person of the Year in 2013. Would that fall under the same category as a person who is known for only one achievement? Thanks for your tips. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bliss Ajootian (talk • contribs) 22:41, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi Timtrent, thank you for your help in reviewing my article. I have made the changes you listed. Will you please check to make sure it is ready for resubmission? I would really appreciate it. Hopefully, I did the references correctly this time!Badobird (talk) 14:42, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
Badobird (talk) 14:42, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
I do suspect it as a sock puppet User talk:Harshhussey.--Vin09 (talk) 13:51, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
List of World XI Test wicket-keepers needs to be redirected to List of World XI Test cricketers, as there is only one match till now played and there is one wicket keeper, so no need for a separate page. I'm redirecting, kindly have your view.--Vin09 (talk) 14:28, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
Such statements really a very good learning for an editors who are willing to contribute to wiki. Thanks.--Vin09 (talk) 15:08, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
Kindly have your opinion here.--Vin09 (talk) 14:56, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
I use AfC to add my articles to mainspace because lot of editing like person data, categories, orphan check, wikiprojects can be easy added by AfC. :) But now I will move to mainspace myself bypassing AfC. Thank you for help and sorry for wasting your time. Regards Nizil (talk) 16:48, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi,
I have tried my best to make changes to my draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ajay_Data. Please consider it for re-review.
Didgeri (talk) 04:13, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
We are coming to wikipedia - and creating an article about our Recording Artist: Gangsta Leene.
our article was denied due to some editing issues.
we were curious to what edits would allow it to become an acceptable article.
Our Artist: Gangsta Leene is a notable Public Figure and needs to have a biography page/article.
it's not for an Electronic Press Kit. An Electronic Press Kit - Requires All information available about an Artist. a page on wikipedia would be such a reference about our artist. we do in fact need an article to address information about our artist as he is a Public Figure.
thank you for your reply to our question TimTrent although you have failed to answer our question as to what editing our article needs to become an accepted article, thank you again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MACCNIPH (talk • contribs)
Thank you for answering my question, it's because Wikipedia Music Failed.
this article is not an advertisement. this article is not promotion. this article is a slight conflict of interest due to the artist and I have a personal connection. and you did not answer my question clearly before, everyone can see that. however this time you have answered my question, thank you for your efforts. we at Native Savage Entertainment appreciate it. Good Day!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MACCNIPH (talk • contribs)
Could you please tell me what you consider reliable sources? It seems to be quite subjective, so could you please tell me exactly what you need to see? Thank youBetchplus (talk) 14:25, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for your response, I did read the article concerning references. So, please let me know what exactly is your expectation, since there is a broad guideline, in which, numerous Wiki pages may not be meeting. This will ensure we are on the same page, so if there is an example you would like to use, I would be very interested in the feedback.
Lol, I more than understand deteriorating into Idiocy, part that you mentioned. With that in mind, I want to be sure we are delivering high quality content to Wiki and to the public. If anyone can offer a definitive of which of the new references I added, does not work, it would be appreciated. The last thing I want to do is waste anyone's valuable time, including myself. Thank you!
@Betchplus: Ok, this is your references section:
Agile Software Requirements[1] probably fine
Scaling Software Agility: Best Practices for Large Enterprises[2] probably fine
41 Things You Need to Know about the Scaled Agile Framework (SAFe) - A blog. By definition unlikely to be RS
The Horror Of The Scaled Agile Framework - A blog. By definition unlikely to be RS
Foundations of the Scaled Agile Framework - Youtube is almost never RS
The Scaled Agile Framework (SAFe) A Review - borderline, but ok in my view
SAFe Cracked - the right side of the border for me
SAFe in a Nutshell - A blog. By definition unlikely to be RS
On the Scaled Agile Framework - A blog. By definition unlikely to be RS
Enterprise Agility with Scaled Agile Framework - No idea, sorry
A Scaled Agile Framework Case Study - A blog. By definition unlikely to be RS
Scaled Agile Framework Applied - no idea
Scaled Agile Framework Release Planning - no idea
References
OK, that is the best I can do, but that is one opinion, and i have been wrong before, so you do need other opinions Fiddle Faddle 20:30, 21 July 2014 (UTC)