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You seem to be quite knowlagable of our loveable EXE Universe...might I ask who you are? Like...are you from any communities or anything?Sukecchi 21:17, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Not in any communities. Just a fan that follows the details of the series to the bare bone. Have watched most episodes, with about 2 years experience in Japanese (though I'm not fluent, it's enough that I can understand what people are saying, and translate to a certain extent).
- Benten
In an attempt to rebuild and strenghten the Yu-Gi-Oh! related Wikipedia communtiy, I am trying to re-start the Yu-Gi-Oh! Wikiproject located here. Hope you join! Moeε 23:32, 1 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Not you again...Look, Netto is just as correct as Net, leave it alone. >_>Sukecchi 21:13, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
don't CARE anymore, just mention the AXESS character pages and the "Net" and "Mail" Romanizations at the very least.—ウルタプ 21:07, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That's furigana. It's meant to show how the name is pronounced. That's a given for all names in Kanji (including Light Yagami of Death Note, since his name is written in kanji) WhisperToMe 04:26, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
"Netto" is technically "Engrish" while "Net" (And I'm meaning the guy's name) is English. If the intended name is Net, the only way the Japanese can write his name is "Ne-tto".
"In the Japanese version, Netto's name is a pun on the word "net." Official sources [1] have sometimes referred to him as "Net," though the pun is more evident due to the phonetics of his name when written in Kanji and Hiragana, as well as nuances in pronunciation by the seiyū involved."
I'm changing this to "Official Japanese sources state his name in roman characters as "Net Hikari"" - remember that "Net" and "Netto", whichever one is the intended name, would be pronounced the same. WhisperToMe 04:28, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
"(cur) (last) 13:11, 29 June 2006 Benten (Talk | contribs | block) m (Give it a rest already. Everybody but u has already agreed to this resolution.)"
1. Do not use "u" in place of "you" on Wikipedia.
2. "Urutapu" now sides with me.
If you cannot come up with another convincing argument, this has been settled. WhisperToMe 22:04, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I will be gone for one week after next Saturday. When I return, I want to know if you really care about this anymore. If not, I'll be happy to revert. If so, the debate shall continue. WhisperToMe 05:54, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
We've all agreed to use Netto but ACKNOWLEDGE Net in the trivia section .Sukecchi 12:10, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there! I apologise in advance for being the bearer of bad news. I've nominated an article you have created for deletion, specifically the Yu-Gi-Oh! GX minor characters. I wanted to let you know, so you can weigh in on the discussion here and also so you can save this list to your computer in case it does get deleted, as I can tell you've put some considerable effort into compiling this list. hoopydinkConas tá tú? 18:05, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
For one, considering the information I was providing was under the TRIVIA section, I think it seems quite suitable that "trivia" would be there, don't you?
Furthermore, the EXE anime and manga are both based off of the video-games, the ORIGINAL source. So, yes, things pertaining to the games also pertain to the anime. If you're going to disregard comparisons to the video-games, then you need to also remove the following from the page:
The fact that anything from the anime is based off of anything from any games, such as Stream being based off of the fifth video-game. The page is about the anime, not the games, so remove all game references.
The mention that the changed character names in the anime, such as FireMan to TorchMan, did not affect the games. Who cares? We're just talking the anime, remember?
"Other inconsistencies between the English game and anime..." No comparisons, remember? This is the anime, not the games. "Just because something was in the games, doesn't mean it has to occur in the anime."
"Although the series originally remains fairly close to the games in terms of storyline, it begins to diverge greatly partway into the series. For example, there is no evidence showing that Lan and MegaMan were twin brothers in the anime as of yet, unlike in the games where it is revealed near the end of the first Battle Network game." This information is along the EXACT SAME LINES as everything I had submitted. If those can't stay, then neither should this.
Why exactly does everything I said about the PETs stay in-tact but nothing else does? That kind of information is identical to the others.
The information I provided was not cluttered or unneccessary. The anime is pretty fanservicey, and many people care about whether or not certain characters or concepts appear. This easily indicates what doesn't appear and, at the same time, sums up everything that DOES (i.e., everything not mentioned was included). Don't you want this page to be informative? That's what Wikipedia is about. If something as miniscule as the NEWS WEEKs easter egg is worthy enough to stay, then anything I said is too.
So the video games are the original source...but that doesn't mean we have to make LONG lists of characters that don't appear in the anime; it's bulky and clogs up the sections in the article. If certain charactes or styles don't appear, then that's that. Listing the Cross Fusion members under Stream for example, is also unnecessary, as the Cross Fusion page already details such info, and the link is already on the page itself. Furthermore, the whole "Calcium is not really good for you!" remark is very much out of place, as it is much more of a POV point than something substantial to the anime. The only reason I left the PET trivia was because there was that bit about the Plug-In PET being completely ignored following EXE. -Benten
I just noticed that you're another MegaMan NT/BN fan. Can you help me out with MegaMan Battle Network 5? In particular, I'm looking for print references on its critical reception or any references on its creation, and I'm coming up with almost nothing. I could really use some help. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 08:51, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I would love to help, but I don't believe I know of any print reference for its critical reception (since I only play the Japanese games), and anything that I do have regarding its creation is just drawings/schematics of the characters, places, etc. from several guidebooks that I own (which I assume is not what your looking for anyways). If you do need to find these images, however, the official Japanese sites for most of the games do have some of them on display. --Benten 23:17, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I don't suppose you can scrounge up Japanese reviews of it, at least? I know it got lukewarm reviews in English, but the series is usually better-recieved in Japan.
By the way, regarding MMBN/NT images, the sources you gave don't suffice. For source, we need both original publishing and where it was posted online. www.exehq.com isn't any better for www.atomic-fire.com for all of the character art; they obviously didn't originally publish these images, so we need to know who did and where. Likewise for the screencaps; it's all well and good that they can be found on this site or that site, but we need to know what episodes they're from.
Additionally, a number of these images do need to go. The galleries in Cross Fusion and Soul Unison and such need to be reduced to a representative example, with the rest of the described fusions described in prose. This is per WP:FUC; we need to keep use of fair-use images to a minimum. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 00:35, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, okay I see then how there should be a minimum. Although I can't provide a good enough source on the net, the official art for most of the other images come from Japanese guidebooks, though that may mean next to nothing in this case. --Benten 03:46, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hrm. If you could peg it to a specific book, it wouldn't need to be a wikilink. Otherwise, I don't think we can use them. :/
Oh! That reminds me. The screenshots can be saved; they just need episode numbers or names rather than just the series. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:10, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I can remember, the images correspond to the book of the game in which the character in question first appears (the pic of Regal would be in the BN4 guide for example). The img of the main characters in the List of MegaMan Battle Network characters can be found in multiple books, Secret of Rockman EXE - Official Illustrated Guide (ロックマンエグゼのひみつ―オフィシャル設定イラストガイド) being the most recent release (I know this because I own a copy, and it is particularly good for documenting the various advertisements throughout the series, though I do not know exactly how I should reference it. Should I just leave the name of the book on the img's pg in this case?). For the screencaps, since most of them are going to end up being deleted anyways and won't have a purpose on those pgs anymore, I don't see a pt. in fitting each with an ep #. There are a few, however, that I'll add to, like the one of R-Laserman and Slur, since they have their own importances on their respective articles. --Benten 04:25, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I saw the ones you sourced, and those are great. That's exactly what we need. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:48, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I can't believe I forgot about this, but upon flipping through the book again, every official pic from each game is in the index of the guide. So I'll just source it in all the applicable imgs; I may not get them all though, as there are probably some obscure pgs I don't know about aside from the ones I frequent. If there's any I miss, feel free to add it in yourself. --Benten 05:09, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Got some questions for you, re MMBN.
Which chip in MMBN5 is a reference to Duel Masters, and what was the name of the DM movie that ran as double-billing with Program of Light and Darkness? Can you find a source to confirm this?
Can you find a source to confirm that Hideo Kojima's son is a big MMBN fan and that's where the MMBN/Boktai crossovers come from? - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 06:01, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well I can answer your first question, but I have no idea about the second. The chips are "Phoenix" and "Death Phoenix" (as listed by my trusty guidebook, although that info is already known). I'll have to check on the name of the DM movie. When I find it I'll tell you. --Benten 14:46, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Can you give me a source to cite that says that this is a reference? - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 14:48, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
What, the book's name? Secret of Rockman EXE - Official Illustrated Guide.
Oh, the same guide? Okay. It does say that the chips are based on DM and it's because of the dual billing (rather than just one or the other). I need to know the author, publication month/year, ISBN number, and publisher, then, so I can cite it. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 14:59, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't say the chips are based on DM because of the dual billing. I meant that it was the source for the names of the chips themselves. It is known that the two are based on DM because the Phoenix/Death Phoenix monsters originate from DM, and that around the same time, the series reciprocated by creating a card in their card game based on Bass (or Forte). I don't think I would be able to find a source for you on this point, however. I do not believe any of the guides specifically listed this info; it was really a matter of whether or not one could see the connection. (Little update: Ideal808 has images of the cards of the creatures on which the two chips were based: [1] and [2] --Benten 15:04, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I re-checked by book; the spelling should be "Deathphoenix" in one word. The English version spells it as "DeathPhoenix". I'm currently looking for a source for the connection to DM. --Benten 15:14, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That they're from Duel Masters would be decent, that it's because of the dual billing (Duel billing? Oh, I kill myself) would be even better. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 15:16, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I'm aware of that. Right now I'm trying to find the name for the movie, cause from what I heard at the time, it had something to do with Deathphoenix specifically. --Benten 15:19, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Found the title. It's "Duel Masters - Curse of the Deathphoenix". The following site has an image of the poster: [3], and the furigana over "Yami no Shiro no Maryuuou" does indeed read "Curse of the Deathphoenix" in katakana. Now that I think about it, it should have been for the dual feature that the chips were created in the game. Deathphoenix being the focus in the movie, it was made into a chip. Bass being of focus in the EXE movie, he was made into a card. --Benten 15:25, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. Actually, that's a nice bit of symmetry, with both the Boktai and Duel Masters crossovers. But we still need a source. :/ - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 15:32, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think we're going to find any sources more concise than what has been found so far. It was really a fanbase acknowledgement of the connection. But since that probably won't cut it for citation, there's nothing really that can be done. --Benten 15:38, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There has to be something. I know that there were promotional cards for both films: e-Reader cards for MMBN5, and cards for Duel Masters. Is there a chance that the cross-promotion was mentioned at the same time as press released/news stories on the promotional cards at the movies? - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 15:40, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
To my knowledge, no there wasn't. At the time that promotions/stories/commercials (etc.) were running for the movies, nothing on the cards was ever mentioned. The trailers didn't even draw attention to the matter. They would just run some clips, then end. --Benten 15:44, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No press release? No mention in fan press? (I dunno if there's a Japanese equivalent to Scrye, or if it was mentioned in the video game fan press.) - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 15:50, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If there was, it was probably said in one of the Jump issues (V-Jump, Weekly Jump, CoroCoro etc.) Unfortunately, I do not remember purchasing any of them at the time when the movies were being announced, so I'll never be able to know for sure. --Benten 15:52, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm. I don't suppose you could ask around with the Yu-Gi-Oh editors or anyone who might read those? It should be possible to source this. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 16:03, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The response I'd get (from the EXE editors anyways) would probably be another "I heard that from ______" (most likely rockman-exe.com, since it was there that I recall seeing the Bass card, and such). I'll keep trying to look for a source. --Benten 16:07, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I read your report on AIV. However, it is difficult to tell if it is vandalism or not as it is quite subtle. Can you please explain to me in laymans terms why the edits are vandalism? Thank you. --Lord Deskana(swiftmend!) 17:29, 12 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for taking up this case; it's a real problem that must be dealt with. Yesterday, 70.249.138.195 was blocked by Husond after I guided him/her to the following link: http://dmcomet.net/ston.txt . This link contains the recently completed list of cards for the Strike of Neos expansion, with names deviating only somewhat due to translation. The vandal stuck around the article and vandalized it again whenever reverts were made, adding names of cards that either do not exist yet, or already exist. It is clear by the haphazardness in which the vandal does this that he/she intends to continue doing this; the names that he/she adds are sometimes spelt incorrectly, and he/she also deletes factually correct information from the page to accomodate for the insertion of his/her own edits (the expansion has a fixed set of numbers in regards to the number of cards in the set). After being blocked, the vandal resurfaced under the IP, 70.248.50.217, making the exact same kinds of edits to vandalize the page. To keep the article accurate and vandal-free, it is thus my opinion that the current IP used by the vandal be blocked indefinately, and the original IP's blocking period extended to an indefinite period. Thank you for you help. --Benten 17:36, 12 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at the IPs, a range block might be a good idea, but it appears the least amount of addresses I could block is 262144, which is still an awful lot for one user. An indefinite is definitely out of the question here, by the way. There is no way near enough vandalism from the addresses to justify that. Thanks for you report, I will think about how to handle this... --Lord Deskana(swiftmend!) 17:40, 12 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Translation discussions on Yu-Gi-Oh! GX-related pages with WhisperToMe for the future[edit]
""Maruchi" (or whatever the spelling was you changed it to); Martin's first name is already rendered in katakana, and the "-chi""
By the way, when chi is extended, it is conventionally written as "tchi" (See Hepburn romanization) - I understand Marty is a foreign name. If we are going to show the raw pronunciation, though, and the chi is extended, we use "tchi" WhisperToMe 03:41, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I see. I'll fix the rōmaji for the name then. Thanks for pointing that out. --Benten 03:54, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry. It's hard treatment by other kids at school and getting bad grades, bad days and I've just been a little chronicly sad lately (11 weeks) believe it or not. Sorry I was childess, but I was trying to put down what really happened and all that crud and I have seen Iris and her Navi talking to eachother and it's been a while scince I've gone crazy over Megaman and It's been hard work everywhere but it all ends up for not and I don't need that in my state and I'm working hard and being a Megaman fan for years sure does tell you alot and everything I've put down is not bull and all that, so sorry. SoundPound500000 November 28, 2006 8:57 p.m.
Sorry, I majorly mistakened. I thought Iris and her Navi were in the same picture but I make mistakes by that aaaaaaaaalllllllll the time, it's my memory. Oh, I'm also sad for an unknown life related reason and don't know the real reason, but it's been odd. If it's not a weekend, vacation, or show to cheer me up, it's school believe it or not.
I agree that one image for the Subaru Hoshikawa article is sufficiant now that I thought about it, but we can't let those images go to waste. I know Wikipedia's not a fan site but nor are the images from the website image gallery page I got them from (thecybernetwork.com), also we can't let those images go to wast. We could make a character and form article for Mega Man Star Force or put it in the Star Force article or somewere else related to the Star Force series, but I'll wait for your thoughts before doing anything unexpected. SoundPound500000 December 1, 2006 3:57 p.m.
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