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Waqas---regarding the Baltoro Glacier article, here is what I wrote on that Talk page: I notice that the reference to the "Concordia Region" has been put back in. To my knowledge, Concordia only refers to the the point of confluence of the Baltoro and Godwin Austen Glaciers. (Sources: multiple maps of the region, climbing literature such as American Alpine Journal.) It is not the name of a region. That's why I changed the reference in the first place, and why I changed the Concordia, Pakistan article as well. So I would suggest reverting back to the version which describes Concordia just as the confluence, not a region. If there are definitive sources to the contrary, please comment; otherwise I'll revert or re-edit this eventually. I don't want to step on any toes, but I do want it to be correct. -- Spireguy 14:32, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Replied on my talk page -- Mwanner | Talk 21:50, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
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Is that David Metzger by any chance? Spireguy tag sounds familiar; this is Mike C formerly of bivouac.com; saw your comment about prominence in the Boundary Ranges and figured it must/might be one of youse guys.Skookum1 21:12, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Waqas--thanks for creating the Passu Sar page and finding the nice picture. However, as I noted at Talk:Passu Sar, it's really a picture of the nearby peak Shispare (with Ultar Sar in the foreground). I'd like to move it to the Shispare page (which needs a picture anyway) and recaption it, but if I do that I would also like to tell the originator of the picture that I have done that. I thought you might prefer to tell him, since you contacted him already. Or I can do it, it's no problem---I just didn't want to step on any toes. Let me know.
Also, most references I have for the peak use only one "s", i.e. "Pasu Sar". These references are various reasonably authoritative maps, plus climbing literature such as the American Alpine Journal. If you have a better source that gives "Passu", let me know; otherwise it might be best to switch it back to "Pasu". -- Spireguy 21:55, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Waqas---thanks for moving the picture. I added a more explicit caption. -- Spireguy 16:05, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for expanding the article and adding the pic. I did not know that the peak is the same as Bublimotin or Bublimuting. Is the Hunza peak same as the Ultar peak? A suggestion about adding images, whenever you add a pic, please put it under some related category so that others can find it and use it. Sometimes it's hard to find a related category, but you should put it in at least some category that might even be undirectly related. (I've put the image under Mountains of Pakistan and Karakoram). Waqas.usman 12:18, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
So, the NPOV would be not to mention the dispute on Pakistani pages :) Waqas.usman 21:30, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
waqas this is not possbile indian editors get the backing from western editors i can only hope biased mentallity of editors will end if not we must take up the responsibility of editing all indian mountains and adding disputed claims. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.158.239.250 (talk) 10:21, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
I've recently created these new pages (mainly from other wiki pages, your texts), please review them for any mistakes, and expand them if you have more info:
Waqas.usman 21:32, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
Didn't get a chance to look at Hunza Peak yet, but I will. -- Spireguy 22:02, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
Please take a look at these unidentified peaks at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Unidentified_Karakoram_peaks. If you recognize any of these, please update their description and category and notify me. Thanks! Waqas.usman 23:16, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
Although I know little French, it's pretty obvious from the title what the guy says: Bojohagur Duanasir (Peak 34/Hunza Peak) -7329m Bojohagur Daunasir
I think many pages refer to Hunza Peak as the 6270m peak, not 7329m, so I guess the guy is wrong. Waqas.usman 01:30, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
I appreciate your additions to the mountain articles, especially those in Glacier National Park (US). Many people I have met don't seem to understand that the height of a mountain may appear much higher than it really is if the lay of the surrounding land is lower in altitude...such is the condition in Glacier, where the tallest peaks are 4 thousand feet lower than in Colorado....but you already know that of course. Keep up the good work.--MONGO 04:56, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Spireguy. Saw your edit at Mount Stuart --- remember that mountain infoboxes can have photos and captions: please preserve them when you use the new template. Thanks! -- hike395 12:23, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Sure—and I hope you don't mind my doing the same for Template:Mountain on new mountain articles I make. (Well, there's only been one so far, but there could be more)
Incidentally, sorry about spamming the living hell out of your watchlist and/or recent-changes list with the tagging. Trust me, it wasn't any more fun making those entries than it is to have to plow through them. —Zero Gravitas 04:18, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi...not that you'd know when a mountain/pass name is Chinook or not, but I'm hoping you can help me remember the name of a couple of minor peaks in the North Cascades area; in normal Chinook they'd be "ikt"/"ixt" and "mokst"/"moxt" but I can't find them under those names; should be something similar; they mean "one" and "two". I remember this being the subject of discussion somewhere, either in emails or in the prominence list, but I have no idea what to search under. Someone in WA was familiar with them....in the long run my Chinook toponymy is only just started, but it's already pretty huge; it's the obscure words, and odd/eccentric spellings and adaptations that are going to be hard to pin down.Skookum1 23:24, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
Found it! Er, found one of 'em. I remember from someone's correspondence (in the prominence list) that there's a "one" peak ("Mox" being "two") and while there's two spires, the gist of the correspondence was that something around there was the "one", perhaps the lower of the two; or the name did referr to the double spire; but I don't know the history/provenance of North Cascades names. Thoughts?Skookum1 02:11, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Beckey: Sorry, not familiar with that source/cite. Jargon was nonetheless widespread, and also perfectly legitimate for use by non-natives and in non-native contexts of territory; Beckey sounds to be citing a linguistics prejudice about where a language "belongs", and who it "belongs" to. White people learned and used the Jargon, for whatever sometimes trival or, in the native context, superfluous reasons. My own view is that white usage is as legitimate as non-native usage; it was a shared language, and if the Forest Service guys were "into it", that's their business. And also part of the Common Jargon Heritage, and not secondary to it as nativist chinookologists would have it.Skookum1 05:38, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
So anyway....sigh...that's the direction I come at with attitudes as to what's an appropriate name or not; I'd prefer the opinion of the guys in the Forest Service, who were out on the land and had an interest in its history, than it what makes sense to a sense of what's "appropriate" as defined by who had the right to use such a word; I have far more problems with new names, and climber's names, than I do with a historical name that has its own reasons; so much history - the times past - is judged nowadays through a modernist perspective; it should not be; it is as it was. One local in Lillooet, who's someone else pissed at bivouac's (and other sites/guides) is even more pissed about Robins' nameing/renaming local summits than I am (he's got roots in the country from 1862 and beyond, rare in BC...) and says unnamed peaks should be left that way. Often enough, the natives who lived here for thousands of years didn't name summits; but places of importance instead; the concept of naming peaks is as much a foreign construct as is the grid-survey system and land alienation; but because Bivouac has (or had, as Robin may have truncated data, as he does too often...) more summmits mapped (thanks to me, to the tune of 25,000 peaks, four times that many including subpeaks), Robin has started throwing names all over the map, and deciding when something named a ridge needs another range, even if the summit is named a ridge, he's decided otherwise.....Skookum1 01:08, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Back to Farley/Becker: so while climbing guides can be referred to, they're no more contextual than anything else; I'd rather go with formal geographers (as I've done with the range defintions in the various Category:Mountain ranges of British Columbia I've stubbed and (some) mapped for Wikipedia; S. Holland's Landforms of British Columbia, 1976 BC Govt) or local lore (often in local, un-academic "kitchen histories") on what's where and so forth; geologists have a different spin from geographers, and ecological zones don't always match other kinds of zones (whichever, depending); and so on. There's a lot that could be in all these articles ultimately; the Cascades is a difficult one because it spans a large, diverse region, and there's only some commonalities, really, relative to any one chunk of the Cascades by itself; I think the North Cascades-Canadian Cascades article is, for example, such an area; and different from Chelan-Ellensburg-Yakima obviously, vs the Columbia and the Rainier-Adams-St Helens region; I wouldn't know where to begin with Oregon; the idea is that ultimately these pages could be a synthesis of geographic, geological, cultural, zoological/botanical and folklore/climbing history and more; in my view nearly anything in certain types of articles is only a stub; the additive nature of the environment, re information relevant to a subject - nearly any subject, seems bound to lead towards that over time...as a historical document, it's becoming the historical document; and completely unprecedented as a collective, consensual record of human knowledge and experience and what-have-you....including obscurities like mountain names and backcountry history....Skookum1
About Skokomish see Skokomish (tribe); one interpretation has it that it's Twana or Lushootseed, the other than it's a local Chinook Jargon hybrid of skookum, which is of course CJ, and -mish, which is the Puget Sound Salishan ending for "people" (farther north it tends to be mxw and mcw around Vancouver and inland (Halkomelem, Squamish, Straits), and in Hunquminum (the VI version of Halkomelem). Anyway, I'd never come across the skookum-mish etymology for that before, and thought it was a hybrid/created word from the Skykomish and Snoqualmie Rivers, which when they merge are the Snohomish; thought it had something to do with that. Tribal tradition says otherwise - that skookum meaning "strong", was definitely intended; even if it's a pun on the Twana meaning ("fresh water") it still works in terms of local argot; and tradition blends in a lot of elements, or can, so it works both ways, as story and as origin.Skookum1 01:41, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi--Exactly what is wrong with the ISBN 0-89886-238-8, which is the corrected entry I put on the Masherbrum page, which matches the LOC and Amazon, and which checks out (I cut and pasted into an auto-ISBN checker)? Thanks, Spireguy 22:22, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
I have got into an edit war with a Pakistani POV pusher which I am liable to lose to lose uder WP:3RR. Surely K2 is no more in Pakistan than it is in China. Please can you help. Thanks. Viewfinder 09:45, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, but I cannot get any of the above links to work. Some of them cause my browser (IE) to crash. Viewfinder 20:29, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
The second and third links worked for me. The most relevant section is point (5) on page 4 of the second link, which says that the border passes "over the summit of the Chogri Peak (K2)." Nowhere is there any mention of a special provision for K2 being entirely or mainly controlled by Pakistan; it simply says that the border follows the main water divide, right over the summit, as one would expect. (The third link is basically the same info as the second; I assume that the first is as well.) This fits in with the climbing-oriented references I mentioned on Talk:K2, which make clear that the northern route to the summit of K2 is entirely in China and is administered by China. I'll copy most of this over to Talk:K2 as well. -- Spireguy 22:36, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
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Hi Spireguy,
I noticed your comments regarding the annotated Himalaya image on Commons and uploaded a new version. Could you tell me if there are any other problems? One thing I am not quite sure about is Nuptse. Should it be more to the left?
I also tried to make the south col routed dotted to show that it is behind the ridge, but that did not look too good either. If you want I can email you the photoshop file, if you want to improve the image yourself. Just let me know. Janderk 12:14, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
The image looks good now. I couldn't do the Photoshopping, and I don't think that you'd be able to put in the route where it is hidden, so I think what is on there now is good. About Nuptse, it has many summits of similar height; I think the main summit might be a tiny bit to the left of what you have now, but not enough that it is worth changing, imo. You arrow certainly points to some summit of Nuptse. -- Spireguy 03:45, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Spireguy, wondering what your opinion is regarding adding historically documented information on traverses of mountain ranges. My feeling is that this is historical information that others might want to track down and that these pages are good places for that information. But I am a newbie here and want to be considerate of the culture. Romandial 19:47, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi. Just cruising through the Mountains of British Columbia category to try and find a suitably shrinkable peak-pic to use for a stub template for BritishColumbia-mountains-stub, which I'll be creating later today; so far might use Mt. Albert Edward or Mt Garibaldi pics or something from my own collection; has to look good at 35px...anyway, I'm familiar with Luna Pk in Washington so when I saw this one I went "where the hell is that?" and so looked at the text and saw "Borealis Peaks". Hmmm. Thought I knew every range, even every mountaineers' grouping in BC, so went and looked at Bivouac; it's mentioned in Luna Peak's article, but from there a Bivouac search turns up only a photo essay by Drew Brayshaw. Now, Drew is one of these guys that likes to go around the countryside naming things, as if he were God or something; a whole ara of the Bendor Range he went around with his snack boxes and christened summits Gingersnap, Oreo Cookie and such stupidities....then whined and ranted when they weren't kept in the system, as no one else used them (well, might have been Klaus Harng, but....same idea). There are no other references to Borealis Peaks, unless it's in Fairley or Baldwin (?), although I gather you may have used it in peakbagger.com (?); yeah, OK, it's in the area between Bella Coola and the Monarch Icefield. But in my three years of poring over BC Basemap and all of Bivouac's materials I've never even heard Robin or Fred refer to that area that way. Just curious - you got any idea/source? There's no Borealis Peaks article, nor should there be; I'm just concerned with the text in Luna Peak; no layman has ever heard of the Borealis Peaks, that's for sure...Skookum1 21:13, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
?Hey; more on this tangent later but pls have a look at the section on my talkpage about the Columbia River; notes on everything but also wondering about the basemap used by prominence.org; it's useful for some things; or is it copyright those guys/yourself? Almost would be a good illustration for Columbia Basin, for instance, or, by combining maps Oregon Country/Columbia District, and nice to put the historical trails mentioned in that other post on......Skookum1 05:50, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi David; chanced by the Cascade Range page to see progress there and noted absence of mention of the North Cascades in the opening, despite the presence of the Canadian Cascades portion of same. Someone, somewhere, I thought it was you, had a definition of the southern boundary; is what's in this article on that sufficient for you? Whoever I'd heard from/corresponded with before was of the opinion it was a certain pass, by the look of things the one south of Glacier Peak, I'd think. Anyway, here's the opening of the Cascade Range article:
...."famous for its chain of tall volcanoes called the High Cascades and also for the ruggedly glaciated spires of the North Cascades, which span the border with the Canadian province of British Columbia, reaching up the east side of the Fraser Canyon as far north as the confluence of the Thompson River" - or something to that effect is what I'm thinking of amending it with. Wordings? Thoughts? The Coquihalla Range, by the way, is something of an unofficial name as it's not gazetted although it does show up even in older histories; I'll see what I can find....Skookum1 (Talk) 08:57, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi; I'm going to browse Randall and Kat's Flying Photos tonight and pick some images, and also get around to writing them about usage; their older stuff I had to do a lot of colour alteration on, but Kat must be using better filters now as most of these are fine. Thought I'd show you some via external links here:
Hope that's not too many. That's just a sample from one of their flights; the next I'm scrolling through is a flight to Chilko and Taseko Lakes via Whistler and the Bridge River Country; wonderful stuff, better than some of their earlier runs.Skookum1 02:30, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
The one on Cascade Range is the one I mean - Location of North Cascades and Canadian Cascades - is the southern boundary right? I can re-do it; and may re-do it using the NASA images anyway.Skookum1 02:23, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
The southern boundary should be moved one major drainage to the north (where it currently necks down) to match the definition in the article (US Hwy 2). -- Spireguy 23:38, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Let me know which one you like best and I'll add Seattle, Victoria, Everett, Vancouver and whatever inland WA cities you think would be best (Wenatchee or Ellensburg? Spokane maybe?). I can also make the red line thicker on the NASA images if that would be better....Skookum1 02:36, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
The new southern boundary looks good. I prefer the one on the original basemap; I think it's clearer. However I would suggest reframing that one to include a little more south and a little less north and east. The natural context here, I think, is the rest of the Cascades, and the southern Coast Range. I would suggest labeling Seattle, Vancouver, Everett, Wenatchee, and Mount Rainier. -- Spireguy 03:14, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
You should ask Skookum1 that question, since he told me it's a volcanic plug. Black Tusk 19:45, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
I retitled the section to "Peaks of the Cascade Volcanic Belt" from "Peaks of the High Cascades", because once again it had Garibaldi wrongly included in it (if it was "Peaks of the High Cascades"); then added the appropriate intro for the new title, and broke the non-Cascade Range peaks off into their own group; which has since grown, including such obscurities as the Bridge River Cones - which are in either the Chilcotin Ranges or the Pacific Ranges, or just on the boundary of those two subdivisions of the Coast Mountains. Late last night (or, early this morning when I couldn't get back to sleep...) I fielded by BlackTusk, just after his addition of Bridge River Cones to the Cascade Range page, that that whole section of non-Cascade Range members of the Cascade Volcanoes, should be moved wholesale to the new Cascade Volcanoes page, which should have existed a long time ago (see my notes about this see User talk:BlackTusk; he must have gone back to bed right after, or left for work or whatever (it was 6:30 am), as I haven't heard back and his usual contributions and fixes of the various BC volcano entries has been quiet since (I just got up, after finally getting back to sleep...). Anyway, just flying this by you before I do it in the next couple of hours; my view is that the continued inclusion of Cascade Volcanoes that aren't part of the Cascade Range is just going to confuse things further if it's allowed to stand; the supposition that "some definitions say the Cascade Range includes Garibaldi and northwards" or however it used to be put was uncitable, except by way of citing erroneous references (as if there were any); I'll put in a bit about historical usages of "Cascades" (not "Cascade Range") north of the border - even for the Kootenay! - but all academic definitions, except "fuzzy ones" such as the Seattle geographer who sprawled the word "Cascadia" across the map (wrongly), make it clear the Cascades end at the Fraser...I'm not sure what peakbagger says, but I'll check; it's a common misconception stateside and really aggravating; not quite as bad as thinking we're the 51st State, but getting close. I wrote Aaron Maizlish about his basemaps on peaklist.org but haven't heard back yet...do you know who made those maps by any chance, i.e. what basemap was used?Skookum1 19:58, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Putting it here so as to not further clutter the section above; the basemap is from User:Qyd and I've been trying to find the one I used, as this isn't quite it (different resolution); it's sized 800x500, could be made 700x500 by cropping off some of the Pacific, or some of Wyoming, but the "golden mean" proportion appeals to me (used to be a photog); if it should be cropped more let me know - I thought maybe this basemap/frame might also be useful for various ranges extending over to Montana/Wyoming, though; the source basemap used here ended at the California border anyway and I cropped it just above the Thompson/Kamloops; thought about adding another colour-line for the rest of the Cascades but that would just clutter it; and with the state boundaries showing so clearly here are the city markings and Rainier still needed?
By the way, this map shows something that is an "oddity" by way of geosynchronicity, though not in the sense of geosynchronous, but as in synchronicity....note the outline of Vancouver Island...then not the outline of the Columbia Mountains, i.e. the permeter formed by the Kootenay/Kootenai and Columbia Rivers; almost identical, down to a few square miles discrepancy; this was pointed out in some book long ago, I remember my Grade 12 geog teacher pointing it out. Weird, huh?Skookum1 04:14, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
I like this one pretty well; it could perhaps be a bit smaller, but it is good for overall context, especially with Oregon and Idaho showing. I think you're right that city markings are not particularly necessary. -- Spireguy 20:12, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
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Thanks for going through the text and fixing the typos. I have one book by the author, "The kangchenjunga Adventure" in that thers is a picture of Frank. I know nothing of copyright, but do you have an opinion on wheather it would be appropriate to scan a picture from his own book, which is over 60 years old. Sensitive subject, but if you have any expertise on this it could be very useful. Thanks in advance. (Gowron 21:04, 27 February 2007 (UTC))
Please can I point out the coordinate style changes that have appeared at List of highest mountains. Imo it's messy. The editor claims that this is needed to assist Google Earth but I don't buy that; it is surely within GE's resources to write a program to convert dms coordinates scraped off wikipedia to real numbers. I don't object to going over to decimal degrees (aside: 4 decimal places is enough), but imo the current format greatly and unnecessarily adds to the bulk of the article. What do you think? Viewfinder 21:57, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
While I'm theoretically in favor of the Geo microformat (in a vague way, since I am no expert on XML-type issues), I would like to see more concrete advantages put forth for this change. It is definitely clunky, visually, and I think it's important to remember that 99% of WP users have no idea how to change their display format. It seems to have been cleared up that this change is not specifically to benefit GE, whether or not that is necessary or useful. So why change? I guess I should look more closely at the ((coord)) discussion, but a quick look didn't convince me strongly. If there is a setting that makes it default to just a dms display, then I would be happier with it. -- Spireguy 02:53, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry for my reverting. Actually I mean that this mountain was never renamed, because Жеңиш Чокусу(Jengish Chokusu) in Kyrgyz means "Victory peak" or "Пик Победы"(Pik pobedy ) on Russian, and the translation of Жеңиш Чокусу(Jengish Chokusu) as "Independence" is wrong. I know it because Kyrgyz is my native language. -Greenvert 14:33, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi, can you take a look at my recent edit to Mount Cameroon, and also the dialogue about it on my talk page, in which it is claimed (by the guy behind the Smithsonian Institute?) that it is unreferenced. Do you think it is adequately referenced? If the verifiability of SRTM data is challenged, the implications could be far reaching. The steam age elevations could be restored to many pages. Ouch! Viewfinder 07:08, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi Buaidh. Thought I'd just say hello more formally since I have left a lot of comments in the past few days on pages that you started or have heavily edited. I know that can feel a little confrontational. I hope we can collaborate positively on our common interests. Cheers, Spireguy 22:09, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
One question: do you have a strong preference for the format "xxx feet = yyy m" as opposed to using Template:convert, as in 14,000 feet (4,267 m), for example? The latter is preferable, in my opinion, and is becoming standard on mountain pages. -- Spireguy 22:47, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Rank | Mountain Peak | Prominence 1 | Prominence 2 |
---|---|---|---|
1 | Mount Elbert[1] NGS PB | 9093 feet (2772 m) | 9,093 feet (2,772 m) |
2 | Mount Massive[2][2] PB | 1941 feet (592 m) | 1,941 feet (592 m) |
3 | Mount Harvard[3] NGS PB | 2327 feet (709 m) | 2,327 feet (709 m) |
4 | La Plata Peak[2] PB | 1841 feet (561 m) | 1,841 feet (561 m) |
5 | Blanca Peak[4][2] PB | 5326 feet (1623 m) | 5,326 feet (1,623 m) |
6 | Uncompahgre Peak[5] NGS PB | 4277 feet (1304 m) | 4,277 feet (1,304 m) |
7 | Crestone Peak[6][2] PB | 4554 feet (1388 m) | 4,554 feet (1,388 m) |
8 | Mount Lincoln[7] NGS PB | 3862 feet (1177 m) | 3,862 feet (1,177 m) |
9 | Castle Peak[8] NGS PB | 2365 feet (721 m) | 2,365 feet (721 m) |
10 | Grays Peak[9] NGS PB | 2770 feet (844 m) | 2,770 feet (844 m) |
11 | Mount Antero[10] NGS PB | 2503 feet (763 m) | 2,503 feet (763 m) |
12 | Torreys Peak NGS PB | 560 feet (171 m) | 560 feet (171 m) |
13 | Quandary Peak[11] NGS PB | 1105 feet (337 m) | 1,105 feet (337 m) |
14 | Mount Evans NGS PB | 2769 feet (844 m) | 2,769 feet (844 m) |
15 | Longs Peak[12] NGS PB | 2940 feet (896 m) | 2,940 feet (896 m) |
16 | Mount Wilson[13][2] PB | 4024 feet (1227 m) | 4,024 feet (1,227 m) |
17 | Mount Shavano NGS PB | 1619 feet (493 m) | 1,619 feet (493 m) |
18 | Mount Princeton NGS PB | 2177 feet (664 m) | 2,177 feet (664 m) |
19 | Mount Belford NGS PB | 1317 feet (401 m) | 1,317 feet (401 m) |
20 | Crestone Needle[2] PB | 437 feet (133 m) | 437 feet (133 m) |
21 | Mount Yale NGS PB | 1876 feet (572 m) | 1,876 feet (572 m) |
22 | Kit Carson Peak[2] PB | 1005 feet (306 m) | 1,005 feet (306 m) |
23 | Maroon Peak NGS PB | 2336 feet (712 m) | 2,336 feet (712 m) |
24 | Tabeguache Peak NGS PB | 435 feet (133 m) | 435 feet (133 m) |
25 | Mount Oxford NGS PB | 633 feet (193 m) | 633 feet (193 m) |
You deleted the link to SLV Dweller from the San Luis Valley page because it doesn't work with all common browsers. What you've failed to realize is that Internet Explorer is the only browser that doesn't support the MIME type that SLV Dweller is using. We make it very clear to people browsing with Internet Explorer that they cannot view the web site because of the lack of standards support on that browser. We also educate IE users about the availability of other free browsers that will work because they comply with recognized standards.
Are you aware of the various W3C recommendations? Are you aware of how the web is evolving?
Many other pages on the World Wide Web use a MIME type of application/xhtml+xml, and the removal of links to such web sites from Wikipedia is evidence of nothing more than status quo thinking. The Web is moving forward, and there should be no discrimination against new standards.
The faults of Internet Explorer (especially version 6) are numerous:
XHTML with a MIME type of application/xhtml+xml is a W3C recommendation and has been since 2001. The fact that Microsoft hasn't done anything about it is not acceptable grounds for removal of a link to a web site that complies with this web standard. SLV Dweller chose XHTML and application/xhtml+xml to ensure an effective archival encoding of our content for future machine processing (in addition to the other benefits of XHTML).
These are the browsers that DO accept application/xhtml+xml:
You can see that there are plenty of alternatives to Internet Explorer, and the reason most people don't do anything about switching to a modern browser is because they think "the blue e" IS the Internet. I'm confident that you are not one of those people.
Depending on the locale, the market share of the above browsers comprises 50% or more. Internet Explorer usage is declining each day, largely in part to the advancement of the Web and the lack of progress on the part of Microsoft.
Microsoft is actually working on Internet Explorer 8, which is widely expected to support application/xhtml+xml. At that point, Microsoft will finally have caught up to the rest of the browser development community. At that point, what excuse will you have for having deleted untold numbers of links from Wikipedia on the basis of one company's delayed action in support of standards?
Please do not delete links to SLV Dweller anymore since the online community that has an interest in the San Luis Valley is astute enough to abandon Internet Explorer in favor of experiencing the modern-day Web as the standards bodies have advocated.
I am concerned about some recent pro-Indian edits to K2. The previous version has been stable for some time and imo the new edits are likely to trigger more ding-dongs with pro-Pakistan editors. What do you think? Viewfinder 18:49, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
I have added a lot of text material in the Gandaki article. Since I am a beginer to wikipedia, I am not sure if the inputs I have provided on the Gandaki and Mahakali rivers are ok from wiki standards. I have material on other rivers which are common to India and Nepal. But I can add them if the additions I have made so far are in order.Since all rivers originating from Nepal are transboundary rivers (except Mahakali river on the West and Mechi river in the east which are border rivers), it is essential to provide all known facts of the river in Indian territory too.--Nvvchar (talk) 04:44, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for telling me about uploading images, just one question, you said I should put a correct license tag. I'm not sure which one, which license tag should I put?--LANGOLASSI (talk) 21:28, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Just so you know, I've requested semi-protection on that Mount Shasta, California page (see semi-protection request). I'm not sure if a note of support from you on that request page would be helpful! NorCalHistory (talk) 20:36, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
I don't know if a semi-protect is necessary at this point. It has become a (small) edit war, but I don't think that shutting out the anon editor(s?) is required. So I'll abstain from a note on the request page. Also, see Talk:Mount Shasta, California for a proposal to start over, if you will, on the climate section. To be honest, some of the stuff that was in there already (and which was not getting warred over) does not seem to me to be sufficiently cited anyway. I think it's best to be cautious about verifiability, especially when people are getting into wars. -- Spireguy (talk) 21:17, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi, could you please take a look at the recent history of List of highest mountains, where an unregistered editor is pushing for the Siachen summits to be placed in India. That editor appears to have stopped editing the article without consensus, and his claim seems to be supported at Siachen glacier. Thanks. Viewfinder (talk) 09:38, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Figured you might want to add something to this discussion. Thanks.Skookum1 (talk) 01:59, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Feel free to join in! hike395 (talk) 15:14, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
i recently seen that you have edited masherbrum and inserted disputed claims why only pick on pakistani mountains why do you not add this to mountains situated in indian administered kashmir is there a underlying bias against pakistan? 86.158.239.250 (talk) 13:12, 11 August 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.158.239.250 (talk) 10:00, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
I edited Masherbrum to put in a reference for the Indian claim, as requested, I believe, by you. (The value of the claim is disputed; the fact that the claim is made is not.) If you look at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mountains, you'll see that I have proposed creating a template to uniformly deal with all mountains in the Kashmir region. That would be the best way to focus the issue and prevent "bias". As to the "bias" that you seem to perceive, it's an artifact of the haphazard way that Wikipedia works---some articles get more attention than others. Also, the most famous mountains in Kashmir happen to be on the Pakistani side of the LOC, so they naturally get more attention. I hope this helps explain the situation to you, and I hope you can participate amicably in the editing process. -- Spireguy (talk) 13:53, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
so its okay if i change mountains on the indian side as disputed also cheers dude. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.158.239.250 (talk) 13:57, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
This will always be a contentious issue, so people on both sides tend to complain and get into edit wars over this. Hence, your best bet is to log in as a registered user---which makes it much easier to converse with you and to assume good faith---and to be civil on talk pages. -- Spireguy (talk) 02:55, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Regarding your tagging of Prominence#Debates_about_use, could you give examples of claims that need further citation? I was not aware that anything there was controversial or being disputed. Viewfinder (talk) 19:45, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
The whole thing is a lot of material, some of it about rather subjective issues, that ideally should be cited to make clear that it is not OR. I was somewhat concerned about that issue when it was originally put in, but I never pressed the issue, since overall it's a lot of good points, both pro and con. While I was deleting the spire link, I noticed again how much there was that was not cited. I wouldn't say it was particularly controversial, just not sourced.
For example:
Let me know what you think, either here or at Talk:Topographic prominence. -- Spireguy (talk) 22:13, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
First, a declaration: I wrote much of this section more than a year ago in an attempt to provide a balanced summary of the prominence debate. Apart from a challenge to the visibility paragraph, which was addressed, the content has been stable.
Comment, critical or otherwise, on prominence by professionals has been hard to find, so the sources are primarily forums, to which links are not encouraged by Wikipedia on the grounds that they are unstable. Regarding the first example: that prominence hikers are spread more thinly seems evident from analysis of the geography of prominence lists, and that it logically follows that there are economic and environmental benefits. I did not write the second. We probably can source the third (COHP?), although I don't think anyone disputes it. The main source of last three examples could once have been found via the prominence forum, but the link there now redirects and I can no longer find the linked jagged globe forum. Another source is Wikipedia itself; see Talk:Marilyn_(hill)#Delete.3F; even though no other wikipedian came out in support of Excalibur's attempt to delete, I think we can agree that some of his sentiments are widely shared.
More generally, if everything, controversial or otherwise, will have to be sourced to the letter or get tags, there will be a lot of tagging and it will be difficult to add much without infringing copyright. I agree that more sources would be better, but is there a threat to delete? Unless content is being disputed or challenged, tagging seems to me to be unnecessary. Viewfinder (talk) 10:12, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi, could you watch Gasherbrum I and K6 (mountain) where editors have been deleting NPOV footnotes about ownership of these mountains? Viewfinder (talk) 23:38, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Please can you review my edits to Chimborazo (volcano). I reverted the edits by the previous editor but updated per recent discussion with Edward Earl at the prominence forum. Viewfinder (talk) 08:06, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
I think this is one of the points where we still disagree a bit on interpretation of Wikipedia guidelines...I don't know of any reliable source that puts forward Huascarán as the winner, and in the absence of such a source, I don't see a compelling reason to put in the extra info about the uncertainty. But I'll probably stay on the sidelines on this issue this time around, and leave it up to you. -- Spireguy (talk) 22:47, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Yo; please have a look at this discussion and also the other sections on that talkpage. The editor who's advancing the notion that a mountain range/physiography article should be a physiogeography+ecozone+geology+molecular systematics article made a series of name changes and additions/revisions to the article and it's even more of a mess than it was when he came along; his prior experience in Wiki and his own field is in biology and he's presuming to lecture ME (ME!!) on what are appropriate physiographic terminologies; actually he's dismissed the relevance of official toponymies and classification systems and wants to create his own. Shades of RT. I'm getting really sick of the whole thing and now it's clear that he seems to think he has the right to create OR and SYNTH based on any refs he happens to think are cool (no matter what their actual relevance to the field). I need fellow-"montaineer" backup here, or someone to take up the torch, or who knows which RFC to put this to; this isn't properly the tur of an admin, this needs expert opinion, but hte article is nowhere near the point where expert opinion is going to be of any use. And you and me and a few other prominence/moumtain geography folks around Wikipedia are the experts, as far as who's around wikipedia goes...I wish this guy would go back to biology....Skookum1 (talk) 05:16, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.215.148.196 (talk) 00:37, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Removed placed in error Porturology (talk) 03:52, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I saw that you have edited Algebraic space before, and I was wondering if you could help with the question I left on Talk:Algebraic space. Cheers, AxelBoldt (talk) 00:33, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
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I've got a whole list of changes I'd like to make to the template on the discussion page. Since you are an active member of WikiProject Mountains, your thoughts would be appreciated. –droll [chat] 09:38, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
In January 2007 you created a created bare-bones stub for the San Mateo Mountains (Cibola County, New Mexico), indicating that you would return. Aside from the addition of a location map, the stub is basically as you left it. Is there more that you could add? It is good to see contributors to the Wikipedia still active three years later. --Bejnar (talk) 22:41, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
I could get a bit more, if I have a few spare moments. Thanks for asking. I'll try to put that on my to-do list. -- Spireguy (talk) 22:47, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
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