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Malcolmlucascollins (talk) 04:39, 4 March 2018 (UTC)I think that it would be easier to have Reference 38 changed to Reference 8b in Neron (DC Comics) in order to save space. Besides, I tried to fix it several times and somehow I couldn't do it. I'm not too computer-savvy anyway and I figured when in doubt, go to an expert. If you or someone else could please change it, that would be great! Thank you, Sam Sailor.Malcolmlucascollins (talk) 04:39, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
Significantly (on average to 1/4th) reduced the number of changes from Wikidata showing up on the watchlists and recent changes on Wikipedias and the other sister projects. This way changes that do not affect an article should no longer show up. We're still holding off roll-out to Commons, Cebuano, Waray-Waray and Armenian Wikipedia because of scalability concerns.
Working on optimizing one of the largest database tables (wb_terms) (phab:T188279)
Fixing a bug on how Wikidata changes are shown on Wikipedia (phab:T189320)
Continued addressing security review issues for Wikibase-Lexeme extension (phab:T186726)
Final note from Léa: thanks to people who participated to the feedback page! Today's Weekly Summary is already improved thanks to your suggestions. Feel free to add more comments, and feel free to edit the newsletter yourself: all small contributions are welcome :)
The property suggestions were updated last week, the last update was in December 2017. The most noticable effect is the higher ranking of "family name" (P734) on items about people. Input about the suggester is still welcome.
George, le deuxième texte (fr), a website querying Wikidata to find French female authors, in order to bring more diversity in the literature school programs
New, configurable download page for Mix’n’match catalogs (example)
Upcoming: EuropeanaTech and Wikidata Workshop Day for GLAMs, Rotterdam (NL), Monday 14 May. A day of GLAM-related workshops around Wikidata and Structured Commons, for beginners and advanced users.
New search code for Wikidata merged. You may notice the improvement in the search results output for Wikidata item. However, new code for search is not enabled, only new results format. The search code will be enabled next week.
Improving formatting of language and lexical category in diff for Lexemes (phab:T189679)
ACTRIAL's six month experiment restricting new page creation to (auto)confirmed users ended on 14 March. As expected, a greatly increased number of unsuitable articles and candidates for deletion are showing up in the feed again, and the backlog has since increased already by ~30%. Please consider reviewing a few extra articles each day.
Paid editing
Now that ACTRIAL is inoperative pending discussion, please be sure to look for tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary.
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The next issue Wikipedia's newspaper The Signpost has now been published after a long delay. There are some articles in it, including ACTRIAL wrap-up that will be of special interest to New Page Reviewers. Don't hesitate to contribute to the comments sections. The Signpost is one of the best ways to stay up date with news and new developments - please consider subscribing to it. All editors of Wikipedia and associated projects are welcome to submit articles on any topic for consideration by the The Signpost's editorial team for the next issue.
A new version of Denelezh, a tool to monitor the gender gap in Wikidata, has been released, including a new methodology to produce the data (explained at the top of the main page and in the documentation), and an overview of the gender gap by Wikimedia project.
I'm working on a study of political motivations and how they affect editing. I'd like to ask you to take a survey. The survey should take no more than 1-2 minutes. Your survey responses will be kept private. Our project is documented at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikipedia_%2B_Politics.
I am asking you to participate in this study because you are a frequent editor of pages on Wikipedia that are of political interest. We would like to learn about your experiences in dealing with editors of different political orientations.
Sincere thanks for your help! Porteclefs (talk) 17:00, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #309
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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
WikiWorkshop, a forum bringing together researchers exploring all aspects the Wikimedia projects, in Lyon, April 24th. Seven papers related to Wikidata will be presented.
I'm just commenting here to suggest that you add a link to your script at User:Kephir/gadgets/sagittarius, and perhaps a mention on the talkpage there. Also it would be good to link your script (and perhaps Kephir's) from Wikipedia:WikiProject Redirect, and mention it on the talkpage there. That way people who do these tasks will be able to find it. Cheers :) Quiddity (talk) 18:15, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for the sensible retargeting of the links, and for your suggestions that I have followed. Best, SamSailor 10:00, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #310
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I wanted to get your advice on getting my article on Rufus Martin and his work up to scratch.
So I spoke to another user and they said that the references needed to be nationwide newspapers or similar, I was wondering if there was something wrong with the references I provided for the articles about Rufus in the Sunday Times, Hello Magazine, The Daily Mail (I understand why you may question this source), designboom, TreeHugger, Indesign and Nanotecture.
Maybe I didn't give enough supporting material to these? Shall I find more articles on him?
What would you recommend,
If it doesn't work out I have enjoyed the process of making this article alot,
Thank you
The challenge with Draft:Rufus Martin is that there is very little about him in the sources provided, they are all about his hanging tent "roomoon". Nothing wrong with that, but it does leave us with a lack of significant coverage about Martin. We are talking about refs 7–14 in the current revision, but I do need to say, that I can't vet the articles in The Sunday Times or Hello Magazine. My guess is, they are about the tent, not the designer.
In short: young designer graduated last year, had a nice design idea in 2013 that got some publicity ... and that's about it.
You may find it worthwhile to at least read the nutshells of WP:COI and perhaps WP:AB. Nothing in the sources say anything about Martin's family and partner.
My recommendation is that you leave it to somebody else to write about Martin at some point in the future. And, naturally, that you join Wikipedia as a regular editor. Where do you want to start? SamSailor 22:58, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
@Sam Sailor:Thank you very much for your feedback, I completely see your point, it's the product more than Martin. I'll keep it as a draft for now and watch him and maybe he will do something more of note. Thank you also for the link ill check those out as soon as possible. I'll start with Classicism, there must be some holes there. Thank you for your helpful advice and feedback. Q December26th (talk) 00:04, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
December26th: Thank you for your thoughtful reply. You are always welcome here if you have any questions, although you are guaranteed quicker feedback at the Wikipedia:Teahouse. Happy editing, SamSailor 06:21, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
List of IMAX venues
Hi, Regarding your pruning of this list, can you please comment on the talk page? Thanks.
Barry Wom (talk) 17:35, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
Responded at Talk:List of IMAX venues. SamSailor 14:39, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #313
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WP:ACREQ has been implemented. The flow at the feed has dropped back to the levels during the trial. However, the backlog is on the rise again so please consider reviewing a few extra articles each day; a backlog approaching 5,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.
Deletion tags
Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders. They require your further verification.
Backlog drive:
A backlog drive will take place from 10 through 20 June. Check out our talk page at WT:NPR for more details. NOTE: It is extremely important that we focus on quality reviewing. Despite our goal of reducing the backlog as much as possible, please do not rush while reviewing.
Editathons
There will be a large increase in the number of editathons in June. Please be gentle with new pages that obviously come from good faith participants, especially articles from developing economies and ones about female subjects. Consider using the 'move to draft' tool rather than bluntly tagging articles that may have potential but which cannot yet reside in mainspace.
Paid editing - new policy
Now that ACTRIAL is ACREQ, please be sure to look for tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. There is a new global WMF policy that requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.
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Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves with the new version of the notability guidelines for organisations and companies.
Not English
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Development is underway by the WMF on upgrades to the New Pages Feed, in particular ORES features that will help to identify COPYVIOs, and more granular options for selecting articles to review.
The next issue of The Signpost has been published. The newspaper is one of the best ways to stay up to date with news and new developments. between our newsletters.
Ongoing: On 24 May, there was a significant outage affecting Wikidata and sister projects that use Wikidata. As a result, some features of are temporarily disabled: Wikidata's property suggester, Lua modules and parser functions calling by label instead of ID, search for the ArticlePlaceholder. We apologize for the inconvenience, we're working to get them back as soon as possible. For technical details, see: phab:T195520 & Incident documentation/20180524-wikidata.
Made constraint check result appear directly after adding a new statement (phab:T194247)
Working on looking up entities by external identifiers on Special:Search (phab:T99899)
Added Docker image to Wikibase website (phab:T189936)
Added WikibaseImport script to Docker images to make it easier for people to start their own Wikibase install with some data imported from Wikidata (phab:T192080)
Did you discuss this redirection with anyone, prior to making it?
We have ((prod)), and ((afd)). When used, as per the documentation, the article creator gets a heads-up, and gets to discuss the concerns of the individual who doesn't think the topic merits an article. But, when someone redirects an article, on their sole judgement, there is no heads-up.
Even if, for the sake of argument, almost everyone would agree with the redirector, I think there is value in informing the article creator. I am working on an essay, every question, every disagreement, is a teachable moment. In it I assert that since the wikipedia has no tutorials, no training manual, we should regard disagreements as opportunities to educate one another.
Even if, for the sake of argument, the article creator has an (obvious(?)) blindspot, how are they to learn about this mistake, and stop making that (obvious(?)) error, if the redirector doesn't leave them a heads-up?
It may not have occurred to you, but an undiscussed redirection can look like a kind of clandestine stealth deletion.
So, is there a place where you discussed this redirection, prior to its execution? If there is not I suggest you be more careful about redirecting articles, without discussion.
The relevant policy, in this case, is our Deletion policy, and the relevant section is WP:ATD-R (Alternatives to deletion, Redirection). Contrary to your misconception that "redirection can look like a kind of clandestine stealth deletion" it, in fact, is the exact opposite as it preserves the public editing history. If you would read the policy, you see it says "any user can boldly blank the page and redirect it to another article". No discussion is required. This does not mean, that another editor cannot undo the redirect and restore the article, they can.
I hope this helps, but I am surprised that you do not know of this important policy. The next time you find yourself in a situation like this, simply ask your fellow editor why they did what they did. Your attempts to be clever/condescending/patronizing all fail and, sorry, at best they make you sound silly. SamSailor 05:03, 31 May 2018 (UTC)