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Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate encyclopedic contributions, but some of your recent contributions, such as your edit to the page Medical tourism, seem to be advertising or for promotional purposes. Wikipedia does not allow advertising. For more information on this, see:

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Hi Cliff, I have tried to edit accordingly, following the examples of others that have placed advertisement in this article, including several hospitals and medical tourism providers. I hope this is better now. Should it be deleted again, I think we are being biased particularly against my article and we would need to clean up the other contributions as well. Happy to hear your thoughts. I am planning to improve this article further and make it more credible, however, I cannot do so, if I find it deleted every morning. Rather than deleting, suggest where I should improve. That should be more effective and efficient. 84.142.251.208 (talk) 15:52, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

October 2009[edit]

Please stop. If you continue to add promotional material to Wikipedia, as you did to Medical tourism, you will be blocked from editing. CliffC (talk) 16:54, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

((helpme))Will this article meet the requirments now, or is is still considered promotional. At this point it states relevant facts without any mention of for profit organizations (as is the case throughout the rest of the article by the way) Appreciate your help, not trying to be difficult but actually contribute Premier-health (talk) 17:28, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't like to answer a question with another question, but is the article what is posted below? If that case you should ask on Germany's talk page if you should add that information on Germany. Otherwise, I'm confused on what the article is. Plus, when you use ref tags (<ref></ref>), you should add ((Reflist)) to the end of the page to automatically show what the your references are without having to rewrite the references again. Cubs197 (talk) 20:21, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Some of the sentences appear as if they do not represent a balanced viewpoint or are advertising. Wikipedia does not allow advertising; you may want to rewrite this to a more balanced perspective. Also, you may want to consider changing your username—some may view it as promotional, considering your edits. Cheers, --Intelligentsiumreview 22:53, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Over at Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#User_Premier-health_edits_to_Medical_tourism I have offered to rewrite the section in a manner suitable for the encyclopedia. --CliffC (talk) 00:04, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

All, thanks for your input. I will try and include your suggestions today or tomorrow by adding more facts, more references and shortening it. Meanwhile, CliffC, I am happy to take up your offer on an edit suggestion Many Thanks Premier-health (talk) 06:20, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Germany

Germany is a less well known medical tourism destination, even though it offers short to no waiting lists for patients seeking quick treatment, highly advanced technology and medical standards, safety, as well as well trained and specialized surgeons.[1] The extremely short waitlist results from the large hospital density in Germany (e.g.: Germany has twice as many hospitals per capita than The United States)[2] Due to its location and major airports, it is easy to reach from anywhere in the world. Costs for medical treatment compete well with other developed European countries and commonly 50% less when compared to The USA.[3] With 99.8% of the Germany citizens being insured,[4] the country has not much outbound medical tourism but has become a medical tourism destination for people who have a real medical need and who want to receive high quality medical care as quickly as possible. Germany is an attractive destination for patients from the Middle East, since travelling to The USA has become more difficult for them since the September 11 attacks. US-citizens travel to Germany when looking for an alternative to travelling to a developed country or when treatment is desired which is not yet FDA (Food and Drug Administration) approved (e.g. artificial cervical disc replacement). Patients from the UK and Canada come to Germany given the fact that there is hardly any waiting list for international patients. The German infrastructure makes it easy for patients to get around and most Germans and German Doctors speak English. The growing trend of medical tourism has led to patient management firms to spring up and to manage the flow of patients. With over 2000 hospitals available in Germany they also assist in selecting the appropriate healthcare provider.

  1. ^ Boscher, L (2009) „European Legends – More to come“ (Online) The Medical Tourism Magazine. Available: http://www.medicaltourismmag.com/issue-detail.php?item=181&issue=8
  2. ^ Osterkamp, R. (2002) „Warten auf Operationen“ – Ein Internationaler Vergleich“, IFO Schnelldients, vol. 55 no. 10, pp. 14-21 (online). Available: http://www.cesifo-group.de/pls/guest/download/ifo%20Schnelldienst/ifo%20Schnelldienst%202002/ifosd_2002_10_2.pdf (accessed: 7 October 2009)
  3. ^ NPR (2008) Compare International Medical Bills (online) Availalble: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=110997469 (accessed: 7 October, 2009).
  4. ^ NPR (2008) Compare International Medical Bills (online) Available: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=110997469 (accessed: 7 October, 2009).