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News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2018).

Administrator changes

331dot • Cordless Larry • ClueBot NG

Gogo Dodo • Pb30 • Sebastiankessel • Seicer • SoLando

Guideline and policy news

• Administrators who have been desysopped due to inactivity are now required to have performed at least one (logged) administrative action in the past 5 years in order to qualify for a resysop without going through a new RfA.
• Editors who have been found to have engaged in sockpuppetry on at least two occasions after an initial indefinite block, for whatever reason, are now automatically considered banned by the community without the need to start a ban discussion.
• The notability guideline for organizations and companies has been substantially rewritten following the closure of this request for comment. Among the changes, the guideline more clearly defines the sourcing requirements needed for organizations and companies to be considered notable.
• The six-month autoconfirmed article creation trial (ACTRIAL) ended on 14 March 2018. The post-trial research report has been published. A request for comment is now underway to determine whether the restrictions from ACTRIAL should be implemented permanently.

Technical news

• There will soon be a calendar widget at Special:Block, making it easier to set expiries for a specific date and time.

Arbitration

• The Arbitration Committee is considering a change to the discretionary sanctions procedures which would require an editor to appeal a sanction to the community at WP:AE or WP:AN prior to appealing directly to the Arbitration Committee at WP:ARCA.

Miscellaneous

• A discussion has closed which concluded that administrators are not required to enable email, though many editors suggested doing so as a matter of best practice.
• The Foundations' Anti-Harassment Tools team has released the Interaction Timeline. This shows a chronologic history for two users on pages where they have both made edits, which may be helpful in identifying sockpuppetry and investigating editing disputes.

19:28, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi, when an article has no content aside from the title of the article in it, you can just WP:A3 it after ~10 minutes, instead of wasting a week with WP:PROD. Iffy★Chat -- 10:12, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Iffy. I was aware of that, however AnandaTV does yield some results on Google, so may be noteworthy. This was more of a prompt to the article creator to pull their finger out and add some content or see the page disappear if they do not. You may remove my PROD notice and AfD it if you wish, but for this page I did not feel that action was in the Project's best interests. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 10:18, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

With a bit more work, this new article has the potential to be a good candidate for WP:DYK on the main page of Wikipedia.

Hi Nick Moyes
Thanks for the review! Please let me know, how can i improve this Sulagitti Narasamma article to fulfil eligibility createria to feature on WP:DYK on the main page of Wikipedia.
--NaveenNkadalaveni (talk) 04:30, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

@NaveenNkadalaveni: If you a seriously interested in this, I'll try and support you (especially with copyediting to improve English grammar). However, my first experience of Did You Know? was that it is almost harder to understand and follow the process than creating an article in the first place!

Most importantly, you would need to read the DYK rules and criteria - noting that there is a time limit for submission to DYK of 7 days from the date when the article first went live on the encyclopaedia. So 7 days from 20th March, or you can't submit it!

Next the article needs a hook which makes the article sound interesting and, critically, it must be supported by an explicit references to demonstrate it to be true. I could envisage something like:

| hook = ... that 98-year old Indian midwife, Sulagitti Narasamma, has undertaken over 15,000 free deliveries?

You can offer more than one alternative hook, if you aren't sure which is best. You have a photo, too, which helps a lot to give it prominence if it's accepted.

Once you have made the submission you no longer have to worry about time limits. Inevitably, editors will scrutinise your article and point out things you must fix before it goes anywhere near the Main page of Wikipedia. It won't progress unless you monitor and act on that feedback. Sometimes, sorting out an article can take weeks, once it's in the DYK cue. So, if you're still serious about this, you would need to go through every single sentence you wrote and ask yourself "would another person be able to show from my references that everything I've said here is absolutely correct?" There is no room for peacock words or your own opinion. If it's not supported by a reference, cut it out. Could a sentence be reworded to sound clearer when read out aloud, for example? If so, have a go at changing it.

Because the process is so complicated, one user wrote this very helpful simple guide to understanding the process.

The choice is yours. If you start the process of creating a 'hook', cleaning up the article, and submitting it as a DYK, you could come back here and show me how far you've got. Should I not reply before the deadline, just have faith and give it a go. Do not worry about the English as the major stumbling block - if you choose to go ahead I will support you in working on this. (Your English is fine for normal articles, but needs just a little bit of extra help to bring it to a standard for the front page of Wikipedia for half a day and to get thousands of hits.) What you need to ensure is that no-one can challenge anything in your article. What you would have to commit to is taking your time to read, understand and follow all the guidance and instructions at WP:DYK (including the links at the right hand side of that page) I certainly didn't find it easy, but once you've done your first, it becomes a bit simpler the next time. I completely understand if you tell me you don't feel you can do this within the timescale. Regards from the UK. Nick Moyes (talk) 12:08, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes Thank you so much for the detailed explanation :) I have nominated Sulagitti Narasamma for WP:DYK. it looks like as shown below, In fact i missed out this reply of yours and ended up nominating it way before reading this, After reading your reply, added ALT3 as well as per your above suggested hook. I will work on cleaning up the article. Your suggestions are welcome!

@NaveenNkadalaveni: Well done for doing this, and thank you for letting me know. I've now gone through your article and tidied it up quite a bit. I must politely but firmly 'tell you off' for a little bit of 'copy/pasting' from newspaper articles which I had not spotted at first - this is really not an OK practice anywhere on Wikipedia, and most definitely not on Did You Know. You must always rewrite factual information in your own words. Anyway, having spotted it with one of the tools that the Did You Know reviewers will be using, I've rewritten these bits for you. One part I do not fully understand is: Though she belongs to Karnataka state, since its border of Andhra Pradesh, her mother tongue is Telugu.. Can you sort this out, please? If it's not important, either leave it out or just say what her mother tongue actually is. (providing it's stated in the relevant references.) You will see I have also taken the liberty or slightly rewording your DYK 'hooks' to enhance the English, and to clarify that she is actually a midwife - and not a postman delivering parcels for free!! I did wonder whether the word "traditional" in every hook is essential. I would be grateful if you would now go through both the DYK hook wording I've modified and, of course, the article itself to ensure that every single sentence is fully supported by an appropriate reference in which that fact is clearly given. If not- cut it out. I am really very pleases you've done this - DYK nominations are not at all easy to grasp. Don't be disappointed if someone criticises the article, but do be ready to address any concerns they may raise. You will find that someone will probably strike out the hooks that they do not like, leaving behind the best one. I will watch with great interest to see how you get on with it. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 12:14, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes Thank you so much for doing cleanup for Sulagitti Narasamma article. As per this line Though she belongs to Karnataka state, since its border of Andhra Pradesh, her mother tongue is Telugu. is concerned, I have sorted out this by just adding Her mother tongue is Telugu. Thanks for sharing "copyvios" online tool link, I'm gonna use this tool going forward to check articles Confidence. Will definitely consider all your suggestions to improve my Wiki skills, You are the best Wikipedian i ever come across! Have a nice day :) Regards, NaveenNkadalaveni (talk) 18:02, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for those very kind words, NaveenNkadalaveni. I shall be delighted if your article does make the DYK slot in due course, and you'll definitely deserve a barnstar if it does! I think you made exactly the right choice in your edit about her language. Keeping things short and factual is the watchword here. By the way, if you have a particular interest in creating articles about Indian women, you might like to know about the Women in Red WikiProject. They are keen to increase the proportion of articles about women on Wikipedia, and produce various lists of potential new articles that might merit creation. So do check out this, if you're interested: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by nationality/India. They also run monthly competitions on variopus topics around the world, which might interest you. (I've just learnt of this one on the Indian Subcontinent during April 2018). Oh, and one thing to mention about your new page on Kadalaveni - we have a policy you probably ought to read called WP:NOINDICSCRIPT about not using that script in lead paragraphs and infoboxes. I believe there was a discussion about it some while ago which concluded that there can be so many ways (and arguments!) to spell Indian names that avoiding conflict by banning them was the best way. I'm sure you'll appreciate this better than I will from over here in the UK. Kind regards and good luck with the WP:DYK. Shout here or at the Teahouse if you ever need any help or advice. Nick Moyes (talk) 13:36, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes, Article Sulagitti Narasamma DYK has been reviewed and raised couple of issues, I have corrected the same now. Good to know that reviewer found ALT2 interesting and received +Ve feedback about entire article. I have given my response to it, in DYK nomination portal. Hope this correction maybe enough to eliminate issue tag template. Sure i will consider all your suggestions mentioned over there in your above response. --Naveen N Kadalaveni 17:14, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi, NaveenNkadalaveni. This type of feedback is all perfectly normal for DYK, and shows that progress is being made. Good luck. Nick Moyes (talk) 18:23, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Nick Moyes, Thank you for your help ! Sulagitti Narasamma moved to WP:DYKNA --Naveen N Kadalaveni (talk) 18:28, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

@NaveenNkadalaveni:That's brilliant! I can take no credit - you did this all yourself. I don't mean this to be patronising in any way, but I'm proud of you. May this be the first of many great DYKs from you. Nick Moyes (talk) 18:47, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

How do you get that clock ubox in your time zone? If I wanted one in my upage in pacific time where do I go? Thegooduser Let's Chat 17:25, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

@Thegooduser: You can find a wide selection of time-related userboxes at Wikipedia:Userboxes/Time. I chose one with the ability for any user anywhere to see what my own local time is. I think this is probably the most useful as I've not got a clue what Pacific Time is in my lozal zone, and vice versa. We all sign with UTC, so knowing that someone who I've contacted in that time zone might well be in bed asleep whilst I'm up and active is most helpful. I trust you'll choose one that helps others, too. Regards from UTC+1 here in England, Nick Moyes (talk) 20:18, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Why are new users thanking me for tagging their upages for deletion? Thegooduser Let's Chat 20:21, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

That's an interesting question, and odd to see. Except that I'd probably thank a policement for telling me off for speeding in my car (possibly in the hope I might be treated more reasonably or fairly). Of course, the templates we leave are designed to be helpful and supportive, so maybe that's the reason - I'm not sure. Or it could be an attempt at sarcasm. "Thank you" for stoppping me promoting my company!! You so-and-so!! ...Who knows the rationale of other editors?

It's great that you're spotting these odd accounts, but as a complete aside, do you realise you've made three times as many edits to your own user page as you have to the main part of Wikipedia? I probably ought to urge you to focus whatever time you've decided to allocate to not doing schoolwork and to editing Wikipedia to actually work on articles and gaining experience in more of the basics. I don't mean this in a nasty manner at all, but hope you'll appreciate what I might be driving at? Best wishes, Nick Moyes (talk) 20:41, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello Nick,

Just wanted to know if you would be willing to adopt me? I am interested in making contributions about latest starts ups and technological advancements. I am willing to spend 2 hours learning and contributing here. CutsViper (talk) 11:29, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello, CutsViper - thank you very much for contacting me, and welcome to Wikipedia. I'm very sorry, but I would expect someone who is keen to be adopted and to learn how to contribute constructively to Wikipedia to be willing to dedicate far more than the "2 hours", which you have apparently allocated to the task. I am very willing to work and guide new but serious editors who have already demonstrated via some of their past editing a genuine desire to volunteer their time to building this encyclopaedia. Their interests and mine also need to match - and you can read more about my adoption criteria at this page. I have a sense that yours and mine don't match at all, so I must politely decline your request. Please accept my apologies for this, and any disappointment that using the adoption template might have caused you. (The Adopt-a-User scheme is in a bit of the doldrums at the moment, and I am hoping it might be revived very much in the manner of suppporting editors with mutually compatible interests and genuine long-term commitment to the project. Of course, if you need any further assistance on anything specific, you are free to ask at the Teahouse where I or my fellow hosts there may be able to offer immediate assistance to you. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 00:39, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Nick, apologies for not responding to your last message. Unfortunately I suffered a bereavement last week and as a result I have been in Scotland and off Wikipedia over that period. To belatedly reply, I saw some reference to the event at the university, but only after it had already taken place! It did sound interesting. As it happens, I am starting a new job next week which is located on the university campus; I might be interested in taking part in future events, but as the job is of the 9 to 5 variety, I would only be available to contribute if there was anything taking place in the evenings or at weekends. Do keep me updated anyway. Jellyman (talk) 17:08, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Jellyman. Thank you for the note. Please accept my commiserations for your recent loss. I wish you well in your new job at Kedy Road Tech (as we used to call it). It doesn't happen to be connected to Biosciences does it, by any chance? I happen to know one or two of the staff in that section. I will certainly keep you informed if there are further events planned - either there or elsewhere in the city. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 13:57, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your good wishes. I'm not actually working for the university itself, but for a well-known academic bookshop located on the campus. Jellyman (talk) 10:54, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Ok, Jellyman I know it. In fact we launched our magnum opus there a few years back. Went in the other day, but now only available to order. (...I hold the stock if the store needs any signed copies. LOL!). You might want to check out the bio for another new Wikipedian. (User:Cbderbylib). Don't want to reveal her full name here, but she's v. enthusiastic to develop a GLAM-wiki connection. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 11:29, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello Nick! Could you please help me with article about Andrey Esionov? I'm stuck with "More footnotes" and "BLP sources" tags. Can you explain me what is wrong with this article? Today I added more footnotes and several new references, but I don't know if it's enough for now. And the same question for "BLP sources" - it says that article needs additional references. But there're 14 of them. Is it enough to remove this tag? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Finkrek (talk • contribs) 13:00, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Finkrek, as you'll have seen, I think the template was OK to remove. I've slightly altered your article and removed full date of birth. Unless this is a widely known and published fact, our policy is to not give complete details of day/month of birth for living people. Whilst I did not check all the references, I couldn't see this information easily, so decided to leave it out. Does that sound OK? (See WP:DOB for more explanation) The one thing I would then suggest is that you move some of the content and rather long quotation out from the very long lede, and down into the body of the article, perhaps leaving just one or two paragraphs there at the most. The lede is meant to simply provide a quick introduction to the topic, and more details should be added later on down the article, supported by references, of course. (See MOS:LEAD). I hope you find this helpful, and I think the article is a big improvement on how it looked when first created (as is so often the case, or course). Thank you for querying this with me. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 16:13, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

18:08, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for cleaning up the article on K2-155d. Among the information you removed from the lede was that this planet is probably in the habitable zone. To me, that seems important enough to mention at least briefly in the lede - would you object if I add it back in? --Gronk Oz (talk) 11:34, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello Gronk Oz. I have absolutely no objection to you putting whatever you feel would be helpful back into the lede. Mine was, admittedly, just a very coarse edit to balance the article following a comment at the TH, and noticing the template saying the lede was too long. It was a speedy edit from a mobile, with little opportunity to fine-tune the article, and you are utterly correct that important facts need briefly stating in the lede paragraph and then expanding upon later on. Go for it! Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 12:35, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

 Done - thanks. --Gronk Oz (talk) 12:57, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Apology Accepted dear friend nick moyes lets just hope this doesn't happens again regards DashDog01DashDog01 (talk)DashDog01 (talk) 02:16, 13 April 2018 (UTC) DashDog01 (talk) 02:16, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Me too! Nick Moyes (talk) 07:36, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Do you think I would win a user page award for most changed user page I can't seem to stop changing it but I think I will leave it as is now I should focus on creating and editing articles please a look at it tell me what you think DashDog01 (talk) 02:36, 13 April 2018 (UTC) DashDog01 (talk) 02:36, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Quite possibly. I think I may have said something to that effect to you at the Teahouse. Less so for the number of changes, but for the extraordinary ratio of userspace edits to mainspace edits! Nick Moyes (talk) 09:09, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

@DashDog01: Yes, you definitely win. Congratulations. You have been added to the User page Hall of Fame. Working on one's user page is good practice (css, wikicode, page layout, templates, etc.). Very good preparation for working on WP:Portals. They are going to love you over there. Have fun!    — The Transhumanist   13:19, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi friend can you help me out I have enabled some scripts in my custom js and vector js and cleared all cache but some features that was visible at first seem to have disappeared please helpDashDog01 (talk) 22:52, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Also you should know I enable a lot of them DashDog01 (talk) 22:52, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

@DashDog01: Oh dear - I very much doubt I can give you any useful advice in this area. My knowledge of scripts is extremely limited. You didn't say what functions you have lost, which might have helped. But in these circumstances I would restore all the files to their initial state, and see how things perform then. You haven't changed your skin in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering, have you? I might also restore all default settings in Special:Preferences and check if things are working again then. If all my own attempts then failed, I'd probably ask for assistance at the Help Desk, which tends to be able to answer more technical queries than we do at the Teahouse. Sorry I can't help any more with this. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:57, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Another approach would be to uninstall the scripts, and load them one by one, to see which one(s) cause the conflicts. Keep in mind that almost all gadgets are scripts, too. So, the conflict could be between scripts you have loaded, or between one of them and a gadget.    — The Transhumanist   13:06, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

P.S.: Nick, I stopped by to copy/paste part of the message I posted above. ;) -TT

After reviewing your request for the "accountcreator" permission, I have enabled the flag on your account. Keep in mind these things:

• The account creator right removes the limit on the maximum number of new accounts that can be created in a 24-hour period.
• The account creator right is not a status symbol. If it remains unused, it is likely to be removed. Abuse of the account creator right will result in its removal by an administrator.

If you no longer require the right, let me know, or ask any other administrator. Drop a note on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of the account creator right. Happy editing! — xaosflux ^Talk 00:43, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Please note, this has been added for an event you have planned and will automatically expire after the event. Do not use this to override antispoofing or blacklist for event attendees, only for overriding the creation threshold. Good luck with your event, — xaosflux ^Talk 00:44, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

15:21, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Nick Moyes, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the autopatrolled right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:00, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for reviewing my new article electronarcosis. At the time I first created the article, I knew that electronarcosis had medical uses, and I soon found some medical articles linked to it. As I was preparing to fix the problem, you reviewed the article and fixed the problem for me. Thanks. I have now expanded the article into a neuroscience stub. Please take a look. Thanks for your many other contributions to wikipedia. Comfr (talk) 19:23, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

I'm not really interested in 'The Worst Witch' subject, but as I've recently started editing 1000's of topics on Quora and get most of my information from Wikipedia I end up editing small things occasionally here.

I've fixed mainly subjects regarding Films, Film Companies, TV Shows, TV Genres, TV Networks, TV Companies, Radio Stations, Radio Conglomerates, Radio Companies etc on Quora as it's easier than here, but there's still 100's that keep getting messed up again by the bots or the admins.

'The Worst Witch (1998 TV series)' was one of the subjects I came across on there so I fixed that, then I noticed 'The Worst Witch (children's book series)' had a picture of 9 books, yet the Wikipedia article said there were only 7. That's how I found out there were now officially 8 books in the series, plus 2 spin-off books.

I was going to add the 2005 series and the 2017 series on Quora too and then I noticed some of my TV Company/Network/Channel/Genre/Show edits had been messed up again, so I'm leaving it for today. It's annoying when the bots mess stuff up, and it's even more annoying when some of the admins caused the problems in the 1st place. If I could just have admin privileges for a month, I'd fix the entire 'Television in the United Kingdom' topic.

I just edit the simple stuff on Wikipedia at the moment in 'visual mode', unless it's easy enough to copy symbols from the same section in 'source mode'. I leave all the stuff like creating/editing contents boxes, the other box on the right hand side box, the pictures, the graphs, the tables, and the boxes at the bottom etc to other people.

In future I'll be editing and adding new pages to do with the people, places and things in the City of Bradford so I'll probably have to learn, but for now I'll just stick to the simple stuff.

--Danstarr69 (talk) 18:37, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining things, Danstarr69. It sounds like you're doing a great job, and it's is a very sensible approach to fix simple things you can, learning as you go. (I'm still learning, too.) I am a bit surprised to hear you blaming 'bots and admins', though, for the problems you see. Are you really sure? These are the good guys here, and rarely foul up if citations are provided to support legitimate changes. I'd be happy to look at the page histories of particular articles for you, if you wish to let me know your concerns. Normally, bots only reverse bad faith edits like vandalism, so that's worth looking into. Are you sure genuine 'admins' have made those poor edits? (There is a way to highlight which editors are actually admins - as it's easy to assume one person is when they're not at all, though to do that you have to install a little script which might sound a bit fiddly and unnecessary for you. Nowadays the selection process for admins is extremely tough, and they're hot on spotting errors that other editors make. Sometimes another editor can think a person has made a bad edit, then be shown to be wrong. (I've done that myself -and it's horrible to cause upset to a constructive editor, or damage to an article.) Again, these edits (even the wrong ones) are usually done in good faith, so it's worth alerting the editors concerned. Other times it's a case of one or another editor not following the normal way or working, or perhaps being over-possessive of the content of an article, not liking it when another editor comes in making changes. But no-one owns articles here. What I would advise is that, even if you're unsure how best to make specific edits, do raise concerns over wrong reverts or subsequent edits, either with the editor(s) concerned, or on the article's talk page as you did with TWW. I'm happy to take a quick look at anything for you if you wish to get back in touch. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 21:34, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes

The first 3 paragraphs I was talking about Quora the website which is similar to Wikipedia but easier to edit. You can add profile pictures, topic descriptions, edit the name, add alias', merge topics, add parent topics, and add child topics. Before I start answering questions properly on there, I want to make sure my favourite topics are complete. There's millions of incomplete 'topics' on there so I've been fixing 1000's of topics about Film, TV, Radio, Countries, Cities etc, but the Quora bots keep messing them up repeatedly. For example there was a topic named "BBC TV Shows" which included ITV shows, Channel 4 shows, E4 shows, and even an NBC show, which had all been added by an admin from India, so I removed them...Then the bots put them back. So I decided to change the topic name to "British TV Shows" and changed the profile picture...Then the bots changed it back. I've finally got them fixed now after contacting an admin, but it seems to be the same 4 admins causing these problems on Quora. There's also locked topics like the 'BBC' which is a mess, but I've managed to fix most of it's child topics. One of these admins is from Australia and doesn't know the difference between English Villages, Towns, Cities, Districts, Counties, Regions, National Parks etc but she's messed around with them anyway. I'll be fixing them once I'm happy the Film and TV topics are fixed.

So when I'm editing topics on Quora I mainly get my information from Wikipedia which I won't be editing properly for a few years. I'm wanting to create a blog somewhere like Quora, Facebook, Twitter, Blogger etc using mainly just photos and a title, about the people, places and things of my city, which is the City of Bradford. That's when I will start editing Wikipedia properly as I'll be attaching Wikipedia and/or IMDb links to the photos in specific albums eg. "Actors from Bradford". That's when I'll need to learn as I've noticed there's the odd page missing like the actors Shaun Thomas and Conner Chapman who don't have Wikipedia page's yet https://www.imdb.com/name/nm5649091/ https://www.imdb.com/name/nm5519350/  Danstarr69 (talk) 07:43, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry, Danstarr69, I had thought you were referring to problem admins and bot issues here on Wikipedia, when it was on the Quora website. It's a relief we're not causing you the problems, though it sounds like you do have your work cut out over there. It's nice that you want to focus on your home city of Bradford. I only know it a little bit from having spent 5 years in nearby Huddersfield. Any time you need help here, do come back to the Teahouse. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 08:42, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes I've had no problems with Wikipedia, apart from last week when I found out you still have to use the word "Is" rather than "Was" even when something no longer exists, and a few years ago when I added some photos. I was busy editing things on Facebook at the time so pages on things like music genres without a profile picture annoyed me.

One of those pages was "Dance Music" so I went to Google and got a random photo of people dancing and added it to the Dance music category on Wikipedia so it would appear on Facebook too, but it got removed probably because I didn't own the picture.

So the next time I decided to add a picture I added my own picture to the Nahki Wells article which I took of him when he was at 'Betfred' for reasons I can't remember, and that got removed too!

How am I meant to prove that photo was taken by me? Take a photo of myself taking the photo? That's why I haven't bothered messing around with photo's since as I don't understand how photo additions work on here. If you don't own any photo's on the subject, and they don't exist on Wikimedia Commons, how can photo's be added apart from stealing them from Google? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danstarr69 (talk • contribs) 09:19, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

@Danstarr69: Put simply, if you don't own the picture (or it hasn't been released by someone else under the approiate 'Creative Commons CC-BY-SA licence) you cannot upload it to Wikipedia or to Wikimedia Commons. If you do own it, there should be absolutely no problem unless other issues like 'Freedom of Panorama' come into it. You can always appeal the deletion of an image you have legitimately uploaded. Sometimes simply failing to complete the upload licence declaration correctly flags up problems. If you look here the deletion notice suggests either the file was probably corrupted or was from a description on commons. When these things happen, it's always worth contacting the deleting administrator for an explanation. I suggest you try uploading the image again, or even just to Wikipedia via the'Upload file' link on the left side of this page. As for 'Is' versus 'Was' - that seems very strange to me. Who on earth told you that? There are many circumstances when 'was' is totally appropriate. See MOS:TENSE for a little bit more detail on that. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 15:50, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes The photo which was mine I'm not really bothered about anymore. I've got it still on one of my memory cards somewhere, as well as my main laptop that got corrupted by Windows 10's two October Updates last year. Still not sure why it got deleted. It looks like it might have had something to do with me not signing it according to one comment. But another mentions something to do with the date, so maybe I uploaded a copy by mistake rather than the original photo file. I just wanted it uploaded at the time as it didn't have a picture back then, and I didn't have a computer so didn't have time to waste in the library editing Wikipedia.

You can see the convo with the "was" vs "is" debate on my talk page. Apparently TV shows still have to say "is" even though they finished 15 years ago, which according to your link seems to be true. It's a stupid rule imo. Danstarr69 (talk) 16:44, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

@Danstarr69: Yes, but TV shows do get repeated. often after many years, so I can see why it's inadvisable to say 'was' in that regard. Just like a film - it still exists somewhere in the archives. Maybe those in black and white might be less likely to be shown, so 'was' might be more relevant. eg Captain Zeppos. Anyway, good luck with future editing. Nick Moyes (talk) 18:01, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

The worst of the worst witches

How to kill a witch    — The Transhumanist   07:17, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

The Portals WikiProject has been rebooted.

You are invited to join, and participate in the effort to revitalize and improve the Portal system and all the portals in it.

There are sections on the WikiProject page dedicated to tasks (including WikiGnome tasks too), and areas on the talk page for discussing the improvement and automation of the various features of portals.

Many complaints have been lodged in the RfC to delete all portals, pointing out their various problems. They say that many portals are not maintained, or have fallen out of date, are useless, etc. Many of the !votes indicate that the editors who posted them simply don't believe in the potential of portals anymore.

It's time to change all that. Let's give them reasons to believe in portals, by revitalizing them.

The best response to a deletion nomination is to fix the page that was nominated. The further underway the effort is to improve portals by the time the RfC has run its course, the more of the reasons against portals will no longer apply. RfCs typically run 30 days. There are 19 days left in this one. Let's see how many portals we can update and improve before the RfC is closed, and beyond.

A healthy WikiProject dedicated to supporting and maintaining portals may be the strongest argument of all not to delete.

We may even surprise ourselves and exceed all expectations. Who knows what we will be able to accomplish in what may become the biggest Wikicollaboration in years.

Let's do this.

See ya at the WikiProject!

Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   10:22, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, The Transhumanist, I've signed up now, and have added a few tweaks and thoughts. Well done on rebooting this. Can I point out that I was extremely confused by what you're asking when you say 'inspect it to see if it is completed' Can you expand on what is meant by 'completed' and what you want from editors? regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 00:19, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

I've added this description to the instructions (in both places): "Most incomplete portals have one or more empty sections that have nothing more than a red subpage link in the middle of them.".    — The Transhumanist   07:22, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

18:16, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Nick Moyes! You created a thread called What are the ten most cited sources on Wikipedia? at Wikipedia:Teahouse, but it has been archived because there was no discussion for a few days. You can still find the archived discussion here. If you have any additional questions that weren't answered then, please create a new thread. Delivered by Muninnbot, an automated account. You can opt out of future notifications by placing ((bots|deny=Muninnbot)) (ban this bot) or ((nobots)) (ban all bots) on your user talk page. This functionality is currently under test. If you received this notification by error, please notify the bot's maintainer.

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Northern White Rhino

The last male northern white rhino died in March 2018.

Sir David Attenborough described the imminent extinction of this sub-species as "another catastrophe and another warning signal".

TASK 2 Come back and edit this section, and leave me a message below to say 'Hello'. Start it with an asterisk to create a bullet point on a new line. Then sign your name by simply typing four tildes, like this: ~~~~ Then click 'Publish changes'. Thank you, Nick Moyes (talk) 00:04, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

• Hello. NM Demo (talk) 12:28, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

• Hello JBo.Boxall (talk) 13:49, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you Nick AnomaGS (talk) 14:49, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Northern White Rhino The last male northern white rhino died in March 2018. Sir David Attenborough described the imminent extinction of this sub-species as "another catastrophe and another warning signal". AnomaGS (talk) 14:51, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Nick, thanks for the introductory message. Turner Street (talk) 20:27, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Nick this is really useful. JBo.Boxall (talk) 13:44, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

I think that there is a mistake of interpretation: I am not paid to modify the page of Christophe Jaffrelot. I work with him and he asked me this as a service (I am responsible for the researcher pages on the CERI Sciences Po website). I am not paid and that is why I am disconcerted and very very bored by the fact of not being able to finish rendering this service (the page on the French wiki has been realized but it is only half of the work). It is a service rendered. I did the same for Alain Dieckhoff, current director of CERI Sciences Po, a few years ago on wikipedia and it didn't cause so many problems. I think we're going to give up wikipedia and C Jaffrelot's page on the English wiki has its old information and its outdated bibliography. It does not seem to me that we can get along. Juchie G — Preceding unsigned comment added by JuchieG (talk • contribs)

I'm sorry you feel that way, JuchieG. At the Teahouse you referred to him as your boss, so I feel it is not unreasonable to conclude you are being paid to make these edits. English Wikipedia does not mind if you do that, although it does require you to declare that fact, as I advised. See WP:PAID. I'm sorry you are bored here. Personally, I find Wikipedia amazingly exciting. I suggest the simplest way (that won't involve you in too much work) is just to leave a note on the Talk Page (with links to sources) to request editors to make the necessary changes for you. Unlike you, we are all volunteers here, so edits are made when people are interested enough to make them. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:26, 26 April 2018 (UTC)