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Regarding the addition of external links to your website on several articles, please consider reading our guidelines on conflict of interest and external links. As I don’t regard your external links to be a clear case of WP:SPAM but find 513 links pointing to your website worrying, I have asked for some extra input here. --Van helsing 06:48, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
From MaritimeQuest.com I have added links only to vessels listed on my site as a way for those interested to locate better photos. Wikipedia is a reference site and I find the links, not only to my site but all other sites of great value when researching a subject. BTW the Admiral Gorshkov link is correct, the ship was named Baku until 1991. This is not spam. Michael Pocock
Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, the external links you added to the page Soviet aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov do not comply with our guidelines for external links. Wikipedia is not a mere directory of links; nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page before reinserting it. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you.
From MaritimeQuest, I fail to see why this has become a problem now as I have inked to many ships listed on my site. I have received many very kind messages from wikipedia users who thank me for adding them as it gives them another place to find the information or photos they are looking for. I do not post links to my main page on the site only to the page for that vessel. As you say that like the site then why would you recommend hiding it from other users? I know the site ranking does not go up because of wikipedia but that is not my concern nor is it the reason I add the links. As for becomming involved with the discussion groups it is something I just don't have time to do. I have enough to do working on the site as I have a full time job and a family. If you remove the links there is nothing I can do but it is to the detrement of wikipedia users if they are not there for them. Michael Pocock
Hello, OK if you wish to remove the links I can't stop you, nor will I waste any more time adding them or arguing about it. I can only assume this will apply to ALL links posted by other sites as well because there are many. If it does than wikipedia will be much the lesser for it. If you wish to contact me directly here is my email address michael@maritimequest.com MP
After looking around I can see someone has removed many of the links to MQ however, other sites have not been removed. Why is this? What exactly do you have against MQ? It's a real shame that some wikipedia nazi can do this but I guess this is what one gets from an open forum site. Are the other sites paying for the link? MP
Well after looking around I find it hard to believe that other sites with LESS material are MORE useful than MQ but that is your decision. However I find it outrageous that these sites remain when MQ is removed. You will find very few sites with more photos than MQ and there are hundreds of never before published photos as well and you want to keep your users from finding them for some obscure reason. Since I am rather new to this I guess I must learn that there are those who will attempt to keep people from the site, as you are doing for what ever reason. I believe this is unfair and not helpful to the users of wikipedia who use the site as a reference not to have as many links as possible to information regarding the subject they wish to find. MP
Further investigation shows that "The Land" has his own Naval website and this is perhaps why you have removed MQ links. So now wikipedia has become another corrupt site. I don't see any complaints from users only from administrators. Maybe they all are only promoting their sites and can not accept compitition. I guess MaritimeQuest having the best photo galleries on the eitire internet for many vessels is not important to the wikipedia administrators because they seem to have vested interest in promoting their own material. MP
This is my first day with all this behind the scenes wikipedia stuff. I have found the discussion about MQ and have posted my response there. Michael Pocock
I was looking at the maritime warfare task force banner on your info page. I will work this all out in due time, still trying to understand how all this works. MP((subst:unsigned:Michael Pocock))
I am posting here, it is time to stop the thread on WT:WPSPAM. Let me first apologise for causing so much aggravation, but I will also explain why things happened, and try to suggest how we move on.
Your linkadditions got reported to WT:WPSPAM, after which I started to have a look at your contributions. You were performing link additions only (something that certainly sets of our spam alarm), and with about 500 links in wikipedia, and you having about 350 contributions a quick calculation shows that you were 'responsible' for the majority of the links in wikipedia. I checked some of the contributions, saw that you were the owner of the site that got linked to (which sets of the spam alarm even more), and saw that quite some links were to picture pages on pages that either already contained quite some pictures, or quite some links. I also noticed that there were 3 other accounts which only added links to this site, and to three other, similar sites. As was noted on WT:WPSPAM, (one of) the sites seemed to be related to/named on your site. Per our spam guideline, even if such linkadditions are to useful links, they are often all removed, and that is where I proceeded. I maybe should have investigated the situation further, as in, find an appropriate wikiproject, but then the 'spam' continues until the wikiproject reacts (as I have tried such approaches before, they tend to be ignored, even if there is consensus like 'it is a good link, it should not be in the external link section but be used as a reference' nothing happens). Again, I am sorry that this caused so much trouble.
I think it is now time to move on. Your site is certainly useful, and I think that you know a great deal about the subject (or at least have the information available). What I would suggest is the following:
When proceeding in this way you are less likely to set off our spam alarms, and I think you will be a great asset for the wikipedia. The next time I will visit the Cutty Sark I will first have a look at your site to see how it is supposed to look.
I hope we can move on like this. Don't hesitate to ask me if you have further questions. --Dirk Beetstra T C 08:42, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, Michael Pocock
I received this message from one of your editors "Your links are considered valuable in most (if not all) cases - they just need to be reviewed & added by someone else, to avoid the appearance of you hyping your own site.
That's really all there is to it. Instead of adding links to individual pages, could you, say once a week, make a list of ships with new photos and post the list for someone to review & add?
It seems like this would actually be less work for you, since you could practically make the list by copying & pasting from your Recent Changes page, and you wouldn't have to manually edit a wiki page for each one. You shouldn't have to do any kind of follow up, just periodically provide a list of links that have new stuff.
How does that sound?"
It sounds fine to me, what do you guys think? If this is the way to go let me know who to direct the links to and I will be happy to do so. Regards, Michael Pocock
The text pasted above was my suggestion. I am posting on WikiProject Ships to see if everyone feels this is an appropriate way to move forward. Michael, you can see & participate in that discussion here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ships#MaritimeQuest Links. Maralia 04:07, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Very well, this is the route I will go. I am very happy this has been resolved, thanks to everyone who had provided input in this situstion. I have two questions, 1. Can or will the links that have been removed be repalced and 2. Where do you want me to post the updated links?
I was asked how I decide what links to post (do I search wikipedia and then make a page to match or do I make a page then search wikipedia?). The answer is the latter, I make the pages I want to, or am asked to depending on the material I have and to be honest what I feel like doing. If I feel like working on passeneger ships then I do, if I feel like working on warships, I do. Of course warships are much more popular and I have far more material on them and, wikipedia will almost always have a page on the warship not so for the passenger ships.
For smaller or obscure vessels I don't even bother to search so you can see that not all ships on MaritimeQuest have been linked to wikipedia. Also, sometimes I just forget to do it. I saw the list of all MQ links and noticed I failed to add links to the RN B class subs. Oh well it happens.
If someone here wants to add information to wikipedia from one of my pages to create a better wpda page it is fine with me, I don't have the skill or time to do so and there are many wpda pages that could use some of this.
Thanks again for resolving this and I look forward to working with you folks in the future. Michael Pocock
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I am not sure why you deleted this photo. I took the photo, I uploaded the photo. So why would you delete the photo? Michael Pocock
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