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Hello. What do you suggest for the Safavids page? I think that there should not be any reference to their origin in the intro, since this is a controversial toppic and because the many sources contradict each other. The origin should be discussed in the "origin" section and the reader should be given a transparent summary of all reliable sources. What do you think? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.82.143.168 (talk) 03:03, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
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I have been reelected coordinator and brought up the old discussion about expanding Muslim military history to the present day. This has been an issue raised by Muslim editors when the task force was founded. It would be great if you could help expanding the articles that present what makes Islams treatment of war effect especially the Muslim warfare. I have been reading a bit on the topic and can help you with advice, but feel myself not confident enough with my limited knowledge. Wandalstouring (talk) 12:37, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
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Hi Kansas Bear. Thank you for your message and for your tactful approach but tact is completely unnecessary in this case. Far from being a personal conversation, this topic is open to anyone. Your contribution was appreciated and this is why I personally thanked you on the talk page (diff). I agree with you. I have been in difficult conversations before but this one is exceptional in the sense of all the semantic inventions employed to change the title of the article, in spite of all the available information. That's why when I saw your comments I realised that, despite all the fog raised in the discussion, there were other people, external to the debate, who could see through that. Seeing also that you are a historian made your comments even more relevant. Please consider this an invitation to further contribute to this debate. Your expertise is greatly needed in such a difficult topic. Thanks again and take care. Dr.K. (talk) 04:24, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
I have reverted your recent edits to this article per Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Remove_unsourced_or_poorly_sourced_contentious_material, as they employed an original research interpretation of the sources cited to advance a controversial claim concerning a living person contained nowhere in the sources themselves. Please note that per Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Blocking, your account may be blocked if you continue to restore this material. John254 22:56, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi can you comment here: [[1]]. Since I think you have been watching this guy and his irrational claims, as well as his foul language. --alidoostzadeh (talk) 17:23, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
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Ha. Slainte Nestorius (talk) 06:50, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
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Hi Kansas Bear.
Quick question - I tweaked the EOKA article (anonymously unfortunately) as Grivas didn't appear to have had a distinguished WWII? I appreciate this is a touchy subject so I may be wrong, but couldn't see anything in the actual Grivas item to support this. His early military career seems to be distinguished (decorated for bravery, etc) but was there anything similar for WWII?
Cheers Alunwyn (talk) 11:45, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Why you are removing the "terrorist" term? --Ilhanli (talk) 23:47, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
"The PKK is listed as a terrorist organization" and "The PKK is a terrorist organization" are very different thing. What isn't needed is a person with nationalistic intentions, trying to "glorify" a terroris organization which killed even Kurdish babies, which babies' familes refused to help PKK [2]. --Ilhanli (talk) 00:42, 24 May 2008 (UTC) If there is a source that it is a terrorist organization, then it means that it is a terrorist organization. Or can we say that "Hitler is listed as main man of killing the Jews"? Is listed... is listed... Al-Qaeda is listed as terrorist organization but it is not?--Ilhanli (talk) 00:53, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Al-Qaeda has been labeled a terrorist organization by the United Nations Security Council,[5] the North Atlantic Treaty Organization Secretary General,[6][7] the Commission of the European Communities of the European Union,[8] the United States Department of State,[9] the Australian Government,[10] Public Safety Canada,[11] the Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs,[12] Japan's Diplomatic Bluebook,[13] South Korean Foreign Ministry,[14] the Dutch Military Intelligence and Security Service,[15] the United Kingdom Home Office,[16] Pakistan, Russia,[17] the Swedish Ministry for Foreign Affairs,[18] and the Swiss Government.[19]
The PKK is listed as a terrorist organization internationally by a number of states and organizations, including the United States,[6][7] NATO and the European Union.[8]
So you mean that this statement should be chanced:
"The September 11, 2001 attacks (often referred to as 9/11) were a series of coordinated suicide attacks by al-Qaeda upon the United States." as
"The September 11, 2001 attacks (often referred to as 9/11) were a series of coordinated suicide attacks by al-Qaeda according to USA government and mass media upon the United States.
So, you say that the firs statement above is written by a child? There are examples like that. Why there are two different standards?
OK, you will learn them while you grow.--Ilhanli (talk) 17:44, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Ḥamas (حركة حماس; acronym: حركة المقاومة الاسلامية, or Ḥarakat al-Muqawama al-Islamiyya or "Islamic Resistance Movement"[citation needed]) is a Palestinian Sunni Islamist[1] militant organization and political party which currently holds a majority of seats in the elected legislative council of the Palestinian Authority.
Hezbollah[1] (Arabic: حزب الله ḥizba-llāh,[2] literally "party of God") is a Shi'a Islamic political and paramilitary organisation based in Lebanon. The group's official name in Arabic is Hizb Allah Al-moqawama Al-Islamiyah fi Lubnan
Sorry mate, I tried to edit an article regarding this issue a bit hastily. I was just a bit too emotional as I lost 2 relatives in a bomb blast in Istanbul that was conducted by this group unfortunately. I just wish all acts of terrorism and warfare stop so no one else will ever be in sorrow. Anyways I'm not really a nationalist (in fact my political views lean towards social democracy but I'm going off track now), but I just can't seem to understand your arguement no matter how much I try to understand it. What more do terrorist groups have to do to be branded a terrorist organisation by some people? Or would they only be a 'terrorist organisation' if they directly oppose the USA or EU? If a group is confirmed to commit acts of terrorism (which you confirm as well I believe, as the article points out facts and they have not been deleted; I appreciate the effort in the article by the way) then isn't that enough for them to be a terrorist group in reality? Thanks.Joebobby1985 (talk) 21:40, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
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Hey Kansas Bear,
Regarding your question on whether Muhammad Ali Pasha of Egypt spoke Arabic, I can confirm that there are decrees written in Arabic signed by Muhammad Ali in museums in Egypt. There are also many statements in Arabic by Muhammad Ali that are documented in Egyptian historical literature. The history as taught in Egypt is that upon his arrival in Egypt, Muhammad Ali's Arabic was essentially limited to Koranic recitation common to practicing Muslims of all nationalities; in addition to his native tongue of Albanian, his was also competent in Ottoman Turkish, a prerequisite for serving in the Ottoman military; during his nearly 50 years in Egypt, he developed competency in Arabic (at the time, both Albanian and Turkish were written in the Arabic script, making this transition easier), however, it is also stated that his knowledge of Arabic was inferior to Ottoman Turkish, and of course far inferior to his knowledge of Albanian; this was also the case with the senior members of the Egyptian military and aristocracy (who were also Albanian-Macedonians), explaining why Albanian and Ottoman Turkish retained a primary role in Egypt until the reign of Ismail Pasha. As stated, this is the history taught in Egypt.
Of anecdotal nature, the validity of which I cannot be equally sure, is that some aristocrats and military officers complained to Ismail Pasha of his insistence on the use of Arabic by asserting that Muhammad Ali's use of Arabic was for formal purposes inside Egypt only and that he continued to use Albanian among his family and advisors, and Ottoman Turkish for his relations with the Porte.
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Kansas Bear: Please go to Talk:Gaston, Duke of Orléans. Frania W. (talk) 03:52, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
It was quite silly of you to revert my edits on the Assyrian Genocide page without considering why I made the changes. If you examine the actual sources, you'll will note they don't speak of "Pontic Greeks" but "Greeks", not "Pontic Greek Genocide" but "Greek Genocide". If you want them to pertain specifically to Pontus, then please change the sources accordingly. Thank you. Bebek101 (talk) 13:00, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Hello Kansas Bear and thank you for contacting me. Sorry I couldn't reply earlier, but you left your message on my talk page shortly after I went to bed. I see that the article is now fully protected so no further disruption shall occur for some time. Maybe it is now time to discuss with that IP the accuracy (or inaccuracy) of his edits. Because if his edits are deemed inaccurate and lacking sources, he will not be allowed to keep reinstating them in the article, even after the protection is lifted. Regards, Húsönd 13:18, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
This is totally inappropriate. Please do not make any more uncivil comments like that again. Users who continue to violate WP:CIVIL will eventually be blocked. Khoikhoi 19:37, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
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You edited a quotation I had provided. There are two sentences from two sources describing the events in chronological order. You appended to the first sentence describing events taking place 10 days later. The original was as follows:
"They turned savagely on the Muslim Turks, whom they started to massacre."[1] "The revolts now spread, leading to the massacre of hundreds of Muslims and the seizure of the main Ottoman forts in the Balkan ports nearby."[2]
You tuned it into the following:
"They turned savagely on the Muslim Turks, whom they started to massacre. But within ten days their revolt was suppressed, with a savagery more terrible, by Turkish irregular forces let loose in revenge."[3] "The revolts now spread, leading to the massacre of hundreds of Muslims and the seizure of the main Ottoman forts in the Balkan ports nearby."[4]
How is the reader supposed to know the time of the events in the last sentence? Your edit is simply out of a bad intent. The events in the part you added is already mentioned in the following paragraph. You claim to be a historian but to appreciate history one has to have a sense of time and chronology. I will correct the article.--Nostradamus1 (talk) 02:08, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Kansas Bear, can you please somehow provide (possibly scan) page 509 from Kinross? If we can see the entire page then this will hopefully resolve things. Khoikhoi 02:34, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
BTW, you've added the following quotes from Kinross:
Are they both from the same paragraph, or even page? Again, it would be helpful if I could see the actual page. Khoikhoi 02:37, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
In Bulgaria a rebel leader, with visions of himself as a Slave Napoleon, had pledged his followers to terrorist methods. They turned savagely on the Moslem Turks, whom they started to massacre. But within ten days their revolt was suppressed, with a savagery more terrible, by Turkish irregular forces let loosse in revenge. They committed atrocities stigmatized by the British commissioner from Istanbul as "perhaps the most heinous crime of the present century". Burning innumerable villages to the ground, they spared neither age nor sex in an outbreak of indiscriminate massacre, killing in a single month no fewer than twelve thousand Christians. Their orgy of slaughter and arson and rape culminated in the mountain village of Batak. Here a thousand Christians found refuge in a church, to which the irregular troops set fire with rags soaked in petrol, burning all to death but a single old woman. In all, so it was reported, five thousand out of the seven thousand villagers of Batak perished at their hands.
I do not need to talk to Kinross. My question to you is why did you stop at that sentence. Add the entire paragraph then. I was providing the details of the events which you want to suppress by insisting on a the follow up sentence. This makes the following sentence invalid. You intentionally are altering the context to magnify you POV.--Nostradamus1 (talk) 02:57, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
I agree with Nostradamus that the quote you added was already basically covered in the following paragraph. I added some additional information from Kinross, but perahps it could be turned into an actual sentence instead of a quote. Khoikhoi 03:38, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
I have been involved in the article List of Turkic states for the past several months. Despite my mediation request half a dozen or so Iranian and several Bulgarian users dominated the article shaping it to their POV. .--Nostradamus1 (talk) 15:46, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Kansas Bear (talk) 17:47, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
"To replace Ivailo, the Bulgarian bolyars chose Georgi I Terter, possibly a Cuman in ethnic origin." Kansas Bear (talk) 03:45, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
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Bonjour Kansas Bear! As I was leaving a msg on Khokhoi's talk page, I encountered a problem with someone editing the page at the same time... It was you. This is what I left on his page:
The IP addresses are 75.106.192.58 and 75.106.192.39. More may have been added since I last looked. Aurevoir! FW Frania W. (talk) 19:21, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
Looks like it's already been taken care of. Khoikhoi 07:19, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
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i think you will find that the edits that i made to the children of the Régent de France and his wife, were made in order to repair the link to their grandmother Elizabeth Charlotte of the Palatinate who was recently moved to her 'correct' name. as regards to their paternal grandfather, as a fils de france, he was styled as Philippe de France, duc d'Orléans his official name and highest ranking title. i will let you work that out for yourself. 86.164.92.185 (talk) 00:18, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
it is not difficult to work out that a son of france (and a daughter) would have been styled X de France!!!!!!!! i fail to see why on many pages your edits regard this obssession of yours. its very dull AND unnecessary....please stop it 86.164.92.185 (talk) 00:23, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
I fail to see why you think your "writing" is superior to anyone's. Kansas Bear (talk) 03:00, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
can you not read...? 81.159.253.180 (talk) 11:16, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Like the French say: "c'est la rentrée" et j'ai l'impression qu'on est reparti pour un tour. Bon courage! Frania W. (talk) 16:33, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Kansas Bear! the edit you performed [7] regarding the bulk of text added by user user:90.192.126.127. The text needs to be discussed at the talk space before inclusion into the article. It looks like a copy-vio from another source. The incorporation of large text, without the cited references, is a red tag regarding the violation of wikipedia rules. Besides the text includes very controversial arguments (I plainlu claim wrong) regarding the issues already established in the wikipedia with sources, such as the claims voiced that Ataturk oppose the policies defined by Misak-ı Millî which was signed by the Ataturk himself. Thank your for your care and consideration. You should also look at the Mustafa_Kemal_Atatürk's_leadership_of_the_independence_war#The_mandates_and_National_Pact regarding mandates and its link to Misak-ı Millî --Rateslines (talk) 15:20, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
FYI, I'm going to be working on an alternate version of the Cyrus cylinder page which would limit all the "reviews" and subjective interpretations of the cylinder (negative or positive) to direct quotes fully attributed to their authors. I'll be making an attempt to replace the sections As a charter of human rights and As an instrument of royal propaganda with a Legacy section. It would be made up of two sub-sections called "proponents" and "critics", containing the various views on the cylinder as direct quotes, while leaving the rest of article to a factual description to give readers a neutral presentation of what the cylinder is, as opposed to what it represents or means -- free of spin or speculation. Feel free to contribute to the temporary page at User:Khoikhoi/Cyrus cylinder. Khoikhoi 00:50, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Hello Kansas Bear. I personally oppose Armenian genocide denial, therefore I am not the best admin to perform any administrative action against the disruptive user. Still, it is pretty obvious that Turkish user Runningfridgesrule is attempting to enforce Turkish POV into the article through weasel words. I have now watchlisted this article and will help revert any POV insertions from him. That should suffice to keep him under control. Yet, if more users join his side, which I doubt, this situation will require full page protection and dispute resolution. Regards, Húsönd 14:47, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi what is your opinion on this:[8]. --Nepaheshgar 18:33, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi, sorry for my late reply. Unfortunately I don't have access to those books. Do you know what they say and whether they support Nostradamus' edits? IMO saying "Turko-Chinese" for some of these dynasties is stretching it, most of the Turks in China became assimilated (excluding those in Xinjiang), so it's hard to tell how much Turkic ancestry these dynasties actually had (correct me if I'm wrong). Also, thanks for the links regarding the Cyrus cylinder. I'll check em out later. Khoikhoi 20:07, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Kansas Bear. I've given the IP a warning for that personal attack he left on your talk page. If he does it again, be sure to let me or another administrator know. Cheers, –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 15:42, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I've repeatedly tried to get the Murad Gumen page protected, but for some reason they don't allow it. Do you have any idea what's going on here? E10ddie (talk) 22:13, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Many thanks for your kind comments Kansas Bear. Tasos (Dr.K. (talk) 22:28, 6 October 2008 (UTC))
You might be interested in the discussion here: [9] --Nepaheshgar (talk) 00:44, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
As I was examining Hudavendigar's editing on Van, Turkey and Armenia–Turkey relations, I noticed that you had on many occasions reverted his edits. Please be aware that edit warring is not conducive to a productive article-building environment, and that it is a blockable offense. In the future, please stick to the mantras of WP:1RR and WP:BRD or request full page protection at WP:RFPP in cases of impending edit wars. Thanks, Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 20:59, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Hello Kansas Bear and thank you for contacting me. I'm sorry that I did not give immediate attention to your request, but I have been terribly busy lately. I see that the anonymous user has been receiving warnings, I'll additionally warn him against the 3RR. If he makes another reversion please let me know. Thank you. Regards, Húsönd 18:09, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
FisherQueen already warned him for his overall poor behavior, and I added a ((3rr)). I added that page to my watchlist. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 17:04, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:35, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
I consider this edit a breach of WP:CIVIL and even if you do not accept that it is see meta:Don't be a dick#Calling someone a dick and consider if someone was to call you a "dickhead" (because the meta article does not mean don't be a private detective) whether you would find it easy to work constructively with them on this project? --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 21:56, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
you should not change talk page contributions by other editors (see WP:TALK "As a rule, do not edit others' comments, including signatures. Exceptions are described in the next section."), particularly if you are in dispute with them. It is much better to report such abuse to WP:ANI. --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 17:49, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
I appreciate your fact checking. Keep it up. --Adoniscik(t, c) 21:35, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
I don't know if you are from the balkans, and if you know what all stuff is about. But i can't watch Laveol's "Barnstar of National Merit" given to him for replacing every single word "macedonian" with 'bulgarian". You don't know what Macedonia suffers from her neighbours in every single moment. We haven't done nothing bad to them, but they use every moment of they're lifes to hurt us. I dont hate them. But they hate me. Only because I exist and my indentity did not die in so many cetnuries. I still don't know if you understand me, but i hope that some day the world will live us alone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.28.162.4 (talk) 01:47, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Like your name!
Warrington (talk) 13:11, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
You have me at a disadvantage, sir. Do I know you? --Kansas Bear (talk) 06:18, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Yes. No.
Just passing by.
Have a nice day!
Warrington (talk) 09:42, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Kansas Bear: This article was published in the French newspaper Le Figaro on 17 December: http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/2008/12/17/01003-20081217ARTFIG00043-les-excuses-d-intellectuels-turcs-aupres-des-armeniens-.php
It might interest you.
Joyeux Noël & bonne fin d'année!
Frania W. (talk) 18:26, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Bonjour Teddy... Kansas Bear: Read today this 21 February 2009 article published in Le Figaro:
http://www.lefigaro.fr/lefigaromagazine/2009/02/21/01006-20090221ARTFIG00097--armenie-mon-amour-.php
Cordialement, FW Frania W. (talk) 18:14, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Please see Bezmiâlem. Mukadderat (talk) 20:12, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Please read about renaissance in Hungary http://www.fondazione-delbianco.org/inglese/relaz00_01/mester.htm
And read about Hungary in wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Celebration1981 (talk • contribs) 17:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
What do you think about Hungarian inventions? were they significant? Hungary science section —Preceding unsigned comment added by Celebration1981 (talk • contribs) 20:50, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
You mentioned a source for the genealogy in your edit summary, but didn't cite it in the article. Would you mind adding the citation? Or if it's as given in your edit summary, I can add it. Thanks. --Amble (talk) 20:34, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the comment, but you've got the wrong person! I changed the stub templates on User:Kansas Bear/Leonine City, but I didn't deal with the coordinates - looks like you got them right by yourself :) BTW, that article looks ready to be transferred to article space. You think it's ready yet? Grutness...wha? 05:30, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
The article is o.k. up to my latest addition. Even Kansan Bear corrected the missing information before this edit. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Van_Resistance&oldid=269936650 But this revert is not only the latest but all my edits. --Atilim Borlu (talk) 05:21, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Well, if the information is sourced and conforms to policy, I see no reason why it shouldn't exist. Then again, I'm not familiar with the subject matter, so I may not be the best person to ask. The edit warring seems to have stopped for now, but I've put the article on my watchlist so I can keep an eye on it. Best, –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 16:22, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
If you're going to use tools, please do read their output:
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Kansas Bear: Please go to Gaston d'Orléans talk page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaston,_Duke_of_Orl%C3%A9ans, where I left a msg after another mass revert by our little buddy. Frania W. (talk) 17:50, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
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Some user is vandalizing the Mount Ararat page, deleting entire sections that were there from the beginnings of the page, related to Armenians and images of Ararat from Yerevan etc, and removing the words Armenian Genocide wherever he finds them. Please keep a watch also of this page. Thank you. He is also close to getting 3RR by his vandalism. 76.237.10.140 (talk) 18:10, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
A similar vandalism is going on in Mitanni page, where we provided more than a handful of cited academic sources, that are regarded as scholarly sources, and supported by a user like you, please check the Talk:Mitanni page. This other user appears to be an admin and agrees with me about the "Armeno-Aryan" origins of Mitanni. 76.237.10.140 (talk) 20:56, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
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Kansas Bear: To much of my regret, there is a subject on which we may disagree: the name of Gaston d'Orléans. In France, he is always referred to as such and, when looking him up in a French dictionary, either Larousse or Petit Robert, one has to go at *Orléans*, where he is found the third one down after Louis, duc d'Orléans (1372-1407) and Charles d'Orléans (1391-1465), as the ducs d'Orléans are listed in chronological order.
However, our dear Gaston is Gaston de France, duc d'Orléans. The only two ducs d'Orléans who were *de France* at birth are him, Gaston de France, duc d'Orléans (L.XIII's brother) & his nephew, Philippe de France (Louis XIV's brother), who started the Orléans branch of the House of Bourbon. Louis XIV's surname is also *de France* as are the surnames for all the kings to follow him, ending with Charles X - the last king, Louis-Philippe, king of the French being Louis-Philippe d'Orléans.
Documents at the Archives nationales, have Gaston as Gaston de France, duc d'Orléans. The following should fall on page 786, a document concerning him, but there are more if you scroll up & down. (Bourbon is highlighted because I was looking for him under Gaston de Bourbon, which, theoretically speaking, should have been his last name as his father, Henri IV, was Henri de Bourbon. (ah, ces Frenchies!)
This being done in good humor, I sincerely hope it will not ring the end of our friendly cooperation! Cordialement vôtre, Frania W. (talk) 23:24, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
That was his name. I was referring to the way it was continually used in the edit here[12]. Do you think the current version of Gaston d'Orleans is alright? --Kansas Bear (talk) 00:24, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
K.B., I think you should stop making further contributions to the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2009-03/Mehmed_Talat page. You are just wasting your time and effort there, as well as giving breathing-space to an editor whose sole aim is to deny the Armenian Genocide. Meowy 22:12, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
This IP user "82.12.123.187", keeps changing the Armenians 8 million number to 10 million. Please revert his vandalisms, Thanks. 75.51.174.249 (talk) 22:13, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Right, actually, according to all the sources available, there are an estimated 10 Million (Some 9 Million, but NONE 8 million) Armenians worldwide. Considering I have plenty of reliable sources [13] (Here's an example), does that not make me correct? (talk) 17:36, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
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I noticed that you listed an IP and User:Ibrahim4048 as vandals of "your page." I looked at the history of your userpage so that I could warn Ibrahim, but I could not find any edits by him. Could you just explain to me, please, why he is included in the list? Tealwisp (talk) 19:48, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Are you aware of the new user Huckelbarry has adopted an almost identical copy of your userpage? It gives the impression that either you two are the same person or that User:Huckelbarry wishes to have a ready made identity. Do you know this editor? Aramgar (talk) 15:22, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
really sorry, i really liked your profile. aramgar; yes im a copier, but what a shame are you. do u want to follow me to my home you rat--Huckelbarry (talk) 12:37, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
If you have got an opinion about Tealwisp's mediation activites on the Talat article, please present it here. here. Meowy 20:09, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi,
I noticed you'd changed the edit of an IP editor on Malvinas Day. The tower, a gift from the UK on the occasion of the Centenary celebrations of Argentine independence, was originally know as the English Tower. After the Argentine defeat in the Falklands War, the Government changed the official name to the monument tower (though the locals still call it the English Tower). You might like to revert your change? Justin talk 10:34, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
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Hello, I have seen that you recently reverted my edit regarding when Crimes against humanity were first introduced. However, I'd like to challenge your view of when this was first introduced and would like to point out this source with regards to Leopold's regime in the Congo http://www.enotes.com/genocide-encyclopedia/king-leopold-ii-congo
I'd like to highlight these bits of the text especially "Virtually no information about the true nature of King Leopold's Congo reached the outside world until the arrival there, in 1890, of an enterprising visitor named George Washington Williams." ... "In one of them, a letter to the U.S. Secretary of State, he used a phrase that was not commonly heard again until the Nuremberg trials more than fifty years later. Leopold II, Williams declared, was guilty of "crimes against humanity."
This also took part in international relations as Leopold felt the need to defend himself against other nations such as the UK who had accused him of committing crimes against humanity in around 1907.
Although I suspect the first usage of the term may even go back to the Boer Wars, I'm pretty sure that the massacres in the Congo had introduced the term before the year 1915.
Kind regards.Joebobby1985 (talk) 01:55, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
I ereased your pages in order to get an answer for erasing the Anti-Turkism tags —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saguamundi (talk • contribs) 14:46, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I just replied on the article's talk page.
I'll consider how to add mention of Charlemagne's campaign, or go ahead and add it, if you want. I understand what you mean about its probably meriting inclusion. SamEV (talk) 06:17, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
This turns out to be self-published, see [15]. Not, I'm afraid, a reliable source. Sorry about that. Dougweller (talk) 09:15, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
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I suspect that this brand new spa is a sock of User:Saguamundi.-- Ευπάτωρ Talk!! 14:08, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Kansas Bear: Discussion concerning Treaty of Troyes & related subjects has been going on lately at GoodDay (talk) talk page. If you want to take part, why don't you bring there the pertinent comment you left on my talk page earlier in the day? Cordialement, Frania W. (talk) 21:28, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
As you made the elementry mistake of calling it a treaty it was in fact a congrass...
Treaty and congrass of Arras are different not the same thing.-- Henry V
The Treaty of Arras(1435) was "effective" for the English?
Therefore, as Curry states; A claim to kingship was valid only if territory could be secured.
Hi, thanks for removing those sources. Someone snuck those back in there while I wasn't watching, I see. See Talk:Huns#They_possibly_had_a_Turkic_or_a_Xiongnu_core_of_aristocracy for more about those sources. (Pictish sourcebook?!) --Stacey Doljack Borsody (talk) 06:17, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
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in your reversions of Mehmed V you deleted a large chunk for genealogy - the content of which was the reasons for the other persons revert to an older version prior to your changes. Agathoclea (talk) 06:46, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Because neither in Turkey's main page is written for the Armenian genocide, nor in Serbia's main page is written for Srebrenica massacre, nor in the USA's main page is written for their atrocities over civilians in Vietnam so I don't see why that thing should be mentioned in Bulgaria's main page. --Gligan (talk) 09:28, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Dear Kansas Bear. I am here not for accusation or something like that. i just want to discover the facts, as much as possible. Alam Ara says Ismaill II and Parikhan Khanum were of Circassian mothers (Circassian means generally mountaineous Caucasiuan and not necessarily CCircassian in modern way). I am fully aware that heydar Ali Mirza was of georgian mother. Yet I have heard and read it in a Persian source that Shah Abbas grandmother was Georgian. Koridze says this too. In addition many persian sources tell us that Shah Abbas spoke Georgian fluently. This means that he was raised with Georgian language. He relied on Georgian generals and administrators which also points to Georgian ethnic favoritism. All and all I do honestly believe in the Georgian roots of Shah Abbas and yet Koridze says this too. I do not know why western sources should get preferrence over the Persian or Georgian ones?--Babakexorramdin (talk) 09:42, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Bonjour Kansas Bear: Articles on Louis XIV, Louis XVI & Marie Antoinette seem to be the most hit by vandalism. In fact, if you scroll down the list of edits for the past few months, there are more vandal hits & reverts than actual positive participation. Sometimes, instead of reverting, a good soul *corrects* what the vandal inserted, missing deletions & changes in dates etc, this resulting in an article filled with vandal-leftovers until someone reads it all over again & catches the stupidities. Don't you think that these articles should be semi-protected & do you know to whose attention we should bring it ? Cordialement ! Frania W. (talk) 16:08, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for you info on Jeanne of France. It was a special contributer who changed the date, I sent them a message a while back but never replied to me. Do you know if Louisa of Burgundyever existed and if so, what kind of a life she had.--David (talk) 17:07, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Basicly now your unsourced statements are refuted
'reflect on the imaginative
Louis XI is blamed for having brought distress to his subjects. This matter needs to be examined. It must be admitted that he imposed them more than his predecessors did*. The question is for what use. This Prince was always stranger to ostentation; he even at times showed such a particular economy as not to be feigned† (FW’s note: he was said to be a miser). His great expense was for the hunt, of which he was jealous. His severity in this regard contributed to some extent to alienate the Nobles, making it known at the time that it was more dangerous to kill a stag than a man.
His other pleasures must not have cost him much. Since his accession to the throne, he had no acknowledged Mistress. Were it some truth to the claim that he, on occasions, had women brought to him, such as Huguette de Jacquelin, la Passefilon, Jeanne Baillette, Perrette de Châlons & others; fleeting tastes in a Prince are less dangerous for a State than if he himself be subjugated by a Mistress. Louis was never governed by Women, as such they were not the object of his expenses; but he spent in devotion prodigious sums at a time when his Household was not paid well, & that the countryside was deserted through the constraints of the Tax Officers (Officiers des Tailles).
(transl. FW)
Cordialement,
Frania W. (talk) 12:36, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
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Concerning your comment on the talk page of Beyazıt I on 28 Dec; an article about Mustafa Çelebi, also called Düzmece (translated as fake, forged, made up or imposter ) now exists in Wikipedia. Actually he was Beyazid's son. But his brother (later nephew) claimed that he was fake to shadow his claim. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 08:50, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
This editor doesn't seem to understand WP:NOR rule, he's changing text which is contradictory to his Ph. D. Thesis, and he cites no references: [37], [38]. Kavas (talk) 16:29, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
I gave him a couple of 3RR warnings, reverted him a couple of times also, plus another warning. Just in case watch out yourself for 3RR. Dougweller (talk) 20:08, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
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I want to add that small changes to the article Saladin in connection to the re-added section about Rawadids who were the Kurdicized Arab tribe Azd but I can. I want to ask you if it is possible to help me to add this reference there. Thanks in advance.
UponlimitKansas (talk) 01:08, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
Hello, I'm having some trouble on the Andrew Mango article with some anonymous IP's trying to change the sourced name of Constantinople (after they also tried to adjust the source it's self) and I noticed you had also had the same problem there. I'm not really sure what to do next now, as this seems like it'll go on forever, so I was wondering if you have any idea's on how to proceed. Thank you and regards.--English Bobby (talk) 11:38, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
Hello! No, the reference seems good, but it was only used to certify that the battle was a "Turkish victory" in the article. As I don't know what the article referenced was actually about (it may have been a purely by-the-way reference to the battle for all I know), and as the other two sources I used pretty much cover the "Turkish victory" bit, I decided to leave it out. Cheers, Constantine ✍ 21:15, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi Kansas Bear. Thank you very much for reverting the vandal on my talk. It is nice to talk to you after such a long time. How are you? I hope everything is ok. Take care. Dr.K. λogosπraxis 16:55, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
Hello, I'm having some trouble on the Andrew Mango article with some anonymous IP's trying to change the sourced name of Constantinople (after they also tried to adjust the source it's self) and I noticed you had also had the same problem there. I'm not really sure what to do next now, as this seems like it'll go on forever, so I was wondering if you have any idea's on how to proceed. Thank you and regards.--English Bobby (talk) 11:38, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
Hello! No, the reference seems good, but it was only used to certify that the battle was a "Turkish victory" in the article. As I don't know what the article referenced was actually about (it may have been a purely by-the-way reference to the battle for all I know), and as the other two sources I used pretty much cover the "Turkish victory" bit, I decided to leave it out. Cheers, Constantine ✍ 21:15, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi Kansas Bear. Thank you very much for reverting the vandal on my talk. It is nice to talk to you after such a long time. How are you? I hope everything is ok. Take care. Dr.K. λogosπraxis 16:55, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
You added a footnote on 28 August 2009 for the following text in the article Henry IV of France: "Salic law disinherited the king's sisters and all others who could claim descent by the distaff line. However, since Henry of Navarre was a Huguenot, this set off the War of the Three Henries phase of the French Wars of Religion. The third Henry, Duke Henry of Guise, pushed for complete suppression of the Huguenots, and had much support among Catholic loyalists. This set off a series of campaigns and counter-campaigns culminating in the battle of Coutras." The footnote cites Baird, vol. 1, p. 431, but I did not find anything relevant on this page in an online copy of the book to the subject being discussed at this point in the article. Is the page reference incorrect or could the linked online copy of Baird somehow be incorrectly paginated? Thanks for help. --Robert.Allen (talk) 02:59, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
... for clearing up some Turkish POV IP stuff (e.g. Huns, Karamanlılar, etc). I can't stand it when the bias of an edit makes you go: "And here we have a (enter nationality / political position), thanks a lot for a load of bollocking." I saw you had already caught most of it.
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Once more. It is nice to know that users like you are around. Many thanks Kansas Bear. Dr.K. λogosπraxis 21:38, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
It means that no other sockpuppet accounts have been detected, which have been created for future disruption but not in active use ("sleeping"). - Regards, Mailer Diablo 03:08, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
Accoriding to Jean-Paul Roux and Lev Gumilev, Kipchaks and Kumans (as well as Polvest) were the same people (In Wikipedia the articles have not been merged). They were living at the east of Tarim River around 850s. For reasons unknown they moved to Desht-i-Kipchak (West Siberia and East Europa) . Klyashtorny identifies them with Kimek tribe and in turn Sirs of the earlier ages. On the other hand, Volga Tatars are believed to be descendants Khanate of Kazan a part of Golden Horde. But I read articles which also relates them to Volga Bulgars and Volga Bulgars are usually related to Tulo (probably Tiele people) tribes under the Western Turkic Khaganate in the 7th century. (Tulo consisted 5 tribes of the Onok conferederation.) But while the language of Chuvash people is similar to those of Tulo, Volga Tatars speak the North western branch of Turkic which makes Kipchak origin theory more plausible. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 08:56, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
>> I dont think they were the same people, for the reason that apperently the Kumans said themselves that they were diferent and that they preffered the name Kuman not Kipchak, if they were different then why did they have a clear seperate land to live (the western section of the confederation), and they had a seperate name -Kuman (if they were the same why would they just not call themselves Kipchak, but instead used the name Kuman. Also, the author of the book: Cumans and Tatars also differentiates between Cumans and Kipchaks, stating that they were different peoples with different origins who came together to form a confederation. Also, it was just the Kumans that migrated to Hungary and then to Bulgaria after Mongols defeated them (they came under the name Kuman, not Kipchak). Also when they formed Wallachia and Basarabia - again they were under the name Kuman, not Kipchak - All these clues and evidence point to a different origin, but their cultures were still very similar, and their language was either the same or very close. Also the codex: Codex Cumanicus is under the name Cuman, not Kipchak, and if Im not mistaken it was done to familiarize the Genoan and other European traders in Crimea and surrounding areas to the people there to help with trade - an area where there was also Kipchaks, not just Kumans - if they were the same people then it might as well have been Called Codex Kipchak (which would then include both Cumans and Kipchaks, but isnt the case). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.232.50.83 (talk) 10:11, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
You might want to post to WP:NOR, I am very sorry but I just don't have the time to work in an area I don't know. Dougweller (talk) 05:12, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
Hello Kansas
Why is Ataturk shown in this Ottoman family tree? He is in no way related and needs to be removed. ...
I agree with you,I wan't removed it...But can't please help me...Thanky.
Dilek2 (talk) 20:23, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Hey,
Thanks for the message re: the above page. I may not receive any future reply as I am on a public computer portal.
Regarding your message, notwithstanding the citation that you provided, there still was no entity called the 'Ayyubid empire' at the time. This is a subsequent term used for historical convenience. The state was referred to at the time as a 'sultanate', which is why this is the more appropriate term.
Also, I note that you made a complete reversion, as opposed to only reverting 'sultanate' to 'empire'. Perhaps you can state on the article's Talk page what reason you have to reverting the other edits, which are all entirely accurate and superior to the previous text, as no reason was given in the edit summary.
Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.150.108.10 (talk) 00:39, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
Hello, I see that there is another revert war at Dadarsi. You use one source, the IP uses another. What is your objection to [42] as a source? Regards.--Moosh88 (talk) 07:56, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
Nothing is wrong with the site in and of itself. What is wrong is to present only one side of the coin. You are free to use that site to show proof for the theory that Orontes may have been Persian. There are sources that state otherwise. Why not include both sides? I look forward to a civil response from you, cheers!--Moosh88 (talk) 05:19, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
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Thanks for the notice, I'll keep an eye on it. I also plan to expand specific sections.Alexikoua (talk) 10:15, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Roger Savory. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:41, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Could you please comment on the following:
Thanks. -- Ashot (talk) 11:14, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
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Hi Can you take a look at the talkpage. Note the RfC and my response to the RfC in detail above the RfC. As a 3rd party, your 3rd view perspective can be helpful. Also see my last point (in the long post) about separating the articles into two: "Safavid empire" and "Safavid family" --Khodabandeh14 (talk) 22:56, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi, would appreciate you comment at Talk:Malibeyli_and_Gushchular_Massacre. Best, -- Ashot (talk) 17:51, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, turns out kavkazcenter.com is their website and it's blacklisted for being an unreliable source, see [45]. So perhaps all citations to it need to be independently resourced. --Golbez (talk) 21:18, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
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Hi, Thanks for your continous wikipedia editing and some of us actually appreciate the fact that people like yourself who are not from the region are ensuring that there is a WP:NPOV basis to many of these articles. I made a comment on EdJohnson's page on a proposal. Feel free to give your input, if any. Thank you. --Khodabandeh14 (talk) 02:21, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
What an excellent idea. --Kansas Bear (talk) 23:22, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
I am being honest with you: I think that User:Tofaan needs to get banned. His nonsense in the article Ghurid dynasty is against everything what Wikipedia stands for. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.83.137.253 (talk) 19:12, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi. I provided some sources to this article. When you have time, can you control and improve them ? Thank you. Takabeg (talk) 15:16, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi Bear. Category:People of the Ottoman Empire by occupation & Category:Ottoman people by occupation seem to be same categories. Which category is better ? Takabeg (talk) 21:34, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi Kansas Bear, i really don't understand why we are putting one source above other. In my POV: an NPOV means that all sources should be mentioned and what they have to say. But the thing that makes me sad in the article Ghorids is that one source is mentioned above other. Which is in my POV not a N-POV and i can't accept the fact that this article is rather showing the POV of Persians (an ethnic issue) then being a free and N-POV. you can correct me if i am wrong.Tofaan (talk) 15:12, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
I've protected this but also posted to the editor's talk page saying they have to start communicating. This seems pretty contentious, take a look at my talk page about them considering themselves Kurds. It appears to me that the sources disagree, but maybe they don't. Remember Admins always protect WP:The Wrong Version. Dougweller (talk) 16:09, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Hello dear Kansas Bear. I did reported the User Erdemaslancan to the Admin because he removed all of my Sources without Reason. Could you please take part in the discussion as witness. Because you saw it on first hand how he did remove all scientific sources without Reason.
Wikisupporting (talk) 23:33, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Here so you might make yourself a picture what was going on with this User.
Erdemaslancan removed all of my sources without a reason he didn´t even gave a statement about this. Isn´t this Vandalism? how can he remove scientific sources without reason.
Here are the points which made me suspicious about "Erdemaslancan"´s intentions.
1. He changes my part of the Text from "ethnic Kurdish" into ethnic Partian. first of all. The Group is called Parthian and not Partian.
2. He removed all of the sources (9 in number)I linked to the article, which most of them are scientific and replaces it by only one Source which is an encyclopedia. One of my Sources is Paul Ludwig whom is one of the main Sources of the whole article. So it is somehow wrong and double moral if we use some of his words as reference and some other not.
3. He uses this article from Iranica as a Source for his claim Zazas being of Parthian descend while in the whole article there is not one sentence mentioning anything like Zaza being a Parthian Group.
http://www.iranica.com/articles/dimli
ironically even his Source confirms my Point.
I Quote
"The Armenian term Kʿrder, literally “Kurds" paragraph three Even if they were distinguished from other Kurds (probably due linguistic Reasons) still they were referred as Kurds and this is the main point.
4. Even if the Parthians were their ancestors. Still they would have nothing to do with the recent identity of Zaza because the Parthians are a ancient Group. It makes as much sense as saying "Tuscans are not Italian, they are of Roman origin"
5. That he changed the article to if like the Zaza are descend from Parthian by using a source which doesen´t confirms this, shows me that the only thing he might be after was vandalism. It is not in his interests to contribute something to Wikipedia otherwise he wouldn´t have simply removed scientific sources and added a source he most probably didn´t even red himself before and only changed one part of the whole article. And this was the kurdish part and nothing else which let me assume that there is a political issue behind it.
6. Even in his Source there is no mentioning of Zaza being not kurdish. Funnily there is one time mentioned that they were called Kurds even if they were distinguished from other Kurds (probably due the language/linguistic) but still they were considered and called Kurds.
7. The Article is about Zaza being a Iranian People. This isn´t wrong but at the same time this doesen´t meant that they aren´t Kurds. Because the Kurdish Group also belongs to the Iranian family. For more details see the Iranian languages article.
The whole thing at least for me seems like this. The User who edited the article just wanted to make Chaos (Vandalism) So the article gets closed.
Sorry for my bad english. I am not native speaker Wikisupporting (talk) 00:55, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
hello Kansas Bear. There is a RFC going on about the Zaza article I wanted to ask you if you want to take part on it.
Here more information about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kwamikagami#Zaza_people
And here the discussion section of it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Zaza_people
Wikisupporting (talk) 20:59, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi Bear, This user propagated article. I controlled sources and understood (like Talk:Timur). Now he is continuing to commit vandalism. How can we stop him ? Takabeg (talk) 08:38, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi Bear. Unfortunately some user misunderstood problem completely. I'll reguests for comment of other users. Now in which topics of Wikipedia:Requests for comment do I have to request ? What do you think of Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Society, sports, and culture. Or in Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Language and linguistics (but there is no mutual intelligibility between Zazaki and Kurdish. This fact could mislead discussion. It could be "harmful" for neutrality of Wikipedia. I want to know your opinion. Thank you. Takabeg (talk) 23:34, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
It seems the User with whom I have a "content issue" is trying to "bring me in bad light" in front of other Users/Admins. He is mentioning that Zazaki and Kurmanji-Kurdish have no mutual intelligibility while no one claimed the opposite. this are linguistic issues and no one has claimed that Zazaki is a dialect of Kurmanji-Kurdish. None of the languages spoken by Kurds has mutual intelligibility with the other this is nothing special about Zaza. And is also found all over the world. Be it the Chinese, Indian, Afghan "dialects" And again a language doesen´t indicates a ethnicity. A ethnicity is indicate by self-identification. His whole arguments seem to be simply based on accusing but none sources are given by him which support his thesis of a distinct "Zaza identity" from Kurdish. This is getting obvious for someone who reads the discussion of us on the Zaza talk page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Zaza_people#Neutrality
I asked him 4-5 times to please show sources that the Zaza are not considered or consider themselves ethnically as Kurds but rather have a distinct "Zaza awareness".
But the only things I got were wrong accusing which had contributed nothing to the article. Even other Admins/Users recognized this.
The only thing he goes to detail is the linguistic issue. While even the Admin Kwami mentioned that the linguistic is not the answer for the identity of Zaza. This is also what linguist like Paul Ludwig writes in his book, which is ironically used as one of the main sources for the distinction between Zazaki and Kurmanji Kurdish. page 390 http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=LuVSkpVuAkAC&pg=PA385&dq=zaza+paul+ludwig&hl=de&ei=sFUCTpvML8-OswbH4smODQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCYQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=zaza%20paul%20ludwig&f=false
Please don´t let your mind be "manipulated" by "kind and innocent looking words" because usually there is a nationalism behind all of this and in this Case, it is a new nationalism tried to be imposed over a group with help of wikipedia used as a political board by some Users. Wikisupporting (talk) 12:44, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi Bear. We've talked about this topic. Do you remember Talk:Van Resistance. See you. Takabeg (talk) 02:10, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi Bear. When you have time, could you control this issue ? Takabeg (talk) 05:10, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
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Hi Kansas Bear. When you have time, could you control these edits ? Takabeg (talk) 13:37, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
my friend i'm not persianism.please do not insult me.i am historian.Encyclopaedic Historiography of the Muslim World and Islam after communism not reliable source historical.Unfortunately you don't have enough iranian historical information.I'm Sorry.Ali Historian (talk) 13:01, 9 August 2011 (UTC)Ali Historian
hi my friend, I can't Translation my historical Sources.this work for me is very hard.Either for historical reference should use the old history ,but in internet environment ,encyclopedia is true and fairly reliable. now In order for you to make informed:in history source and book such as book of aburihan birooni ,hamze isfahani , ibn balkhi and... nowhere not founded That samanids is tajik or aveacina is tajik or abu rihan is tajik and..... that two university references and other historical Books used this up books. I read western book translation that Samanids knew the Persian.(and encyclopedia britanica and iranica(that western historian make it)).If my English wasn't poor You had to convinced. in some Poetry of samanids poet samanids named king of iran(persia): خداوند ما نوح فرخ نژاد که بر شهر ایران بگسترد داد [ my king Nuh I from race of victory ---- that expanded Justice in Iranshar(name of country iran in old) ] or rudaki Poetry : شادی بوجعفراحمد بن محمد آن مه آزادگان و مفخر ایران [happy for abu jaafar ahmad ibn mohammad ---- he is magnate and proud iranian] i don't now (abu jaafar ahmad ibn mohammad) but i think he is samanids general and he was samanids family. write this Post for me is very hard and long. Either I enjoyed the discussion with you.byeAli Historian (talk) 09:34, 10 August 2011 (UTC)Ali Historian
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I reported him to to ]]Wikipedia:Usernames for administrator attention]] and he was blocked. If that happens again, you can report him. Or let me know and I will. Dougweller (talk) 19:03, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for responding to my comments at Talk:El Dorado, Kansas regarding Dennis Rader's connection to the city. As noted in my comments on that Talk page, I felt that some other connection to the city beyond his involuntary incarceration in a nearby prison needed to be established in order for him to remain on that article's "Notable people" section. --TommyBoy (talk) 21:10, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
The relation between Marie Antoinette and the Valois, although not strictly relevant for her becoming queen, is a bit more interesting than mere trivia. The Valois dynasty died out after a series of violent episodes and sudden sicknesses, leaving the throne of France in the hands of a distant relative, Henri IV. Also the Valois-Angoulême, unlike the Valois-Orléans, did not manage to have royal descendants in France following the ascension of the House of Bourbon. Therefore it's a historical curiosity that the two family branches were somehow reunited when Marie Antoinette married the future Louis XVI. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.225.25.89 (talk) 05:09, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
The trivia at Marie Antoinette that you're questioning here is a nuisance edit perpetrated by our old vandal, now indefinitely blocked, LouisPhilippeCharles, whom you'll remember from and here and here and here and edits by his sockpuppet Tbharding, here and here and here. You can see his block log here. Periodically he re-incarnates under various IPs that get promptly exposed and banned. FactStraight (talk) 07:01, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
Good day. My English not so good, and then, can you add some details to this request ? --Movses (talk) 12:07, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
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Concerning your note to me on the 14th: The three sentences you have referred seem to be correct. Crimea was one of the most active slave markets both in the middle ages and in early modern ages. During the Republic of Genoa control in Kefe, Kypchak slaves were exported to Egypt and elsewhere and the Mamluk regime in Egypt depended on this slave trade. After Kefe was captured by the Ottoman Empire, the situation was reversed, and non Moslem slaves (mainly Ukranians and later Circassians) were exported. In his book Osmanlılar (Halil İnalcık:Osmanlılar, İstanbul, ISBN 987 605-114-188-6 pp.186-188) Prof Halil İnalcık (Professor of History in Chicago University 1972-1993) writes " After the 16th century no other slave trader was able to compete with Crimean slave market and the main slave provider to the Ottoman Empire was Crimean Tatars " (I am afraid I am a poor translator. But I don't think his book has been translated to English yet) Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 06:51, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the compliment. I am always ready for collaboration. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 12:41, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello! Thanks for your note (and sorry for the lateness of this reply; I've not been around much)
Your explanation (to me, and in the edit history) is fair enough; I was reacting mainly to a source being deleted without much of an explanation, the first time round.
I'm not familiar with Morris' book, and my local library doesn't have one, but (given the title) I'm surprised he doesn't mention the subject; is it worth putting it in the bibliography? Moonraker12 (talk) 13:27, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for the note. I provided my comments on talk page and restored to version by Yerevanci. Anon IP attempts to deviate from primary subject by focusing on less related events. Atabəy (talk) 06:24, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
Yes, won't reply instantly though as going out for a bit. Dougweller (talk) 06:55, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for the note. I provided my comments on talk page and restored to version by Yerevanci. Anon IP attempts to deviate from primary subject by focusing on less related events. Atabəy (talk) 06:24, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
Yes, won't reply instantly though as going out for a bit. Dougweller (talk) 06:55, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
Ooops! I am sorry for the wrong cut & paste [48]. I wanted to get your feedback on the current mechanism to check some of the AA related articles. Do you think they are sufficient or ineffective? Thank you.--Khodabandeh14 (talk) 21:21, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for your information Kansas...--Carotis (talk) 10:08, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Are you the same Kansas Bear from WAB? This is Ironduke. Saw that you had last edit on the Battle of Lisbon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ironman419 (talk • contribs) 01:21, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello, it doesn't seem to say that Saladin himself was Arabized, but that his Kurdish tribe had assimilated to the local Arab rulers in the generations before his birth (pg. 129). Adam Bishop (talk) 09:52, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello. I need your help to review these articles. Because this user changed or changes them without any reason. The articles are:
- Hazara people: Related ethnic groups. Content dispute about should we mention Turkic people or not? According to the article and sources, I think It's need to be mentioned in the related ethnic groups. But she removes it from infobox without any reason every time. I want your opinion about this.
- On theses articles: Shams Tabrizi, Qatran Tabrizi, Khaqani, and Mahsati; she changed sourced content from "Persian" to "Iranian". Changed categories and inserted a false and wrong category about their ethnicity (added Azeri ethnicity category). I didn't see anything about "Iranian" in the references, so according to the sources the word "Iranian" is wrong. All of these persons are classic Persian poets and sources call them Persian not Iranian. Another thing is about changing categories. Odd edits are done by this user. Specially putting these persons into wrong ethnic groups. Need your review about her edits. Because I talked with her about this before and she just continues her works. Another person like you will be a great hand to help and improve these articles and cases.
Thanks. Regards. Xooon (talk) 08:24, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
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I found you here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Iraqi_Turkmens/Archive_1 Turco85 is back on this page trying to steal the Iraqi Turkmen identity and claim them as some kind of misplaced Anatolian Turks. MamRostam03 (talk) 06:38, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Thank you very much Kansas Bear. As always. Take care. Dr.K. λogosπraxis 02:42, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
Given your expertise, could you take a look at this discussion here. Are "Encyclopedia of the Ottoman Empire" and "Concise Encyclopaedia of World History," acceptable expert WP:RS citations, that can be used to refute or contradict secondary sources, written by experts and scholars on the subject? Kurdo777 (talk) 00:37, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
Persian was the official language. Too bad Turkish nationalists try to change facts. Oghuz being the popular language of Khwarezm is the biggest joke I ever heard. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.147.122.42 (talk) 17:12, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
No, fact of the matter is you don't know what the definition of a Persianate society is. Persianate means that the country is dominated by Persian language and culture, and forms the identity of that nation, regardless of ethnic origin of the leaders. Fact is, when some idiotic nationalist attempts to say Oghuz Turkic was the 'popular' language is laughable. The article has enough sources indicating Persian language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.43.23.243 (talk) 17:41, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
Hello Kansas Bear. Sorry to interupt your talkpage, but I thought it might be useful to inform you about this. The users has started accusing everyone who had disagreed with her during recent days. Regards.--Aliwiki (talk) 17:32, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Lets analyse the situation, this is from the Bulgar language talk page:
Please, provide a reliabe linguistic sources about this unbelievable and frivolous claim. Thank you. Jingiby (talk) 09:03, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
>>>As you can see Jingiby is being uncivil and unpolite with the words "unbelievable and frivolous claim", when time and time again there are sources for those comments. Jingiby himself is a hypocrite as he says the source is unreliable - kroraina.com -when he himself uses it often in his edits, he himself in some reply to me said the source is fine. Can you see what is wrong here.
Umm. I dont know if you have seen, but we have provided sources, one of which is a site that you regularly use. In it, any person can see the significant number of words that are of Pamirian origin, it is not like the words are 10 or 20 in number, but more. So the, how is it an unbelievable claim. That you suffer from seemingly Iranophobia (as your interaction, which is often uncivil or border on it, with edits in the Bulgar page and other pages indicates) should not come in the way of editing an article. Please keep your feelings and strong words to yourself, and stop saying that this is not a forum when nobody treats it as such - what is wrong with you?Smart Nomad (talk) 17:39, 24 November 2011 (UTC) >>>My comments here are not an attack, as you state, but justified. You can understand that theu are justified if you take good time to read ALL the discussions in the latest Bulgar talk page. That I said he suffers from Iranophobia is a justified comment - I would npt have said it if it was not justified, as that would then really be uncivil and an attack. Next time, before you post the comment that you did on people's talk pages, take time to fully analyse the situation and read everything and understand where the other guy is coming from (that is me). I said he suffers from Iranophobia because he removes sources, ignores them or continues to say they are pseudoscience when in fact they have garnered much support and cant be considered as pseudoscience - especially when there are proffesors, genetic labs of academy of sciences and scientists involved, Also, if you read Jingiby's edit comments on a variety of edits on Bulgar related things you would see that he constantly comments with uncivil and unpolite words and accusations - that is if he ever writes something in the first place as much of the time he never says anything to me. Then at the end of my comments I wrote "What is wrong with you" - again justified to write that after Jingiby repeats the forum thing over and over again, especially in the Bulgar talk page, when nobody is using it as a forum but instead people discuss edit issues. I hope you understand where I am coming from and that I am not a typical vandal type editor and such. If you post such a warning on my talk page, then surely you should post something like that on Jingiby's page as well - because of the things I have mentioned and his often unpolite words
Kind Regards Smart Nomad (talk) 08:53, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
Please no POV pushing by erasing the different versions of the name of the city of Kars in other languages, especially of those countries and ethnicities that ruled the city and/or settled there. I am aware that the Armenian period in the history section of the city is delibaretely erased. This does constitute as vandalism as does the erasing of the city’s name in the other languages. The discussion(s) in the talk page between Turkish/Azeri and Armenian Wikipedists does not settle the "dispute" of the city’s history and its names in different languages at all, because the discussion from both sides (which is still ongoing for years) has nationalist overtones and is an attempt to ignore and overide or alltogether erase the periods of the city’s history each side sees as "incovenient". And despite the near identical pronounciation of the city's name by the certain ethnicities who ruled and/or settled in this city in the past and/or who presently live is relevant. The issue here is not about which ethnicity ruled the longest or had the most impact. See also the articles Istanbul (Toponymy section) and Names of Istanbul for comparison. The impartiality and neutrality has to be upheld. Therefore every version, and not only one has to be restored.
Noraton talk 11:01, 25 November 2011 (UTC).
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "Kars". Thank you.
Noraton talk 11:50, 25 November 2011 (UTC).
Well, I admit that I did not knew much about history of usage of terms Constantinople / Istanbul in English sources. I primarily used Serbian and Bosnian sources where Ottoman capital is often named Stambol. I also found this source which says that name "Stamboul" was used in western sources as a designation for "walled city inside Constantinople" and that name might well correspond with Serbian/Bosnian sources in which term "Stambol" primarily designated Ottoman capital and place where Ottoman sultan is situated. PANONIAN 18:47, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
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Hi Kansas Bear, my use of the words "Thanks for the lack of good faith" under Byzantine Empire Discussion Page were too strong and you have my apologies for that. Coupled with other attempts to undermine my edits on the article page as soon as they were included, I was getting the impression of being set up to be accused of being a "hack" (for want of a better word). But having now looked at some of the hitherto discussions I can see why you would query it. Hopefully the quoted text will satisfy you that I was being quite true to the literature. Sincerely, Romaioi (talk) 05:25, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
I may have this the wrong way, but here are my thoughts. First, the quote should be corrected to reflect what the source actually says. Second, I'm not sure the entire thing need be included at all, if the point is merely to show that Ghandazar was an independent See. It's pretty clear from the context that the author is referring the Seljuks, not the Caucasian Albanians, as the "direct ancestors of present day Azerbaijanis", and I'm not sure I see the point in adding it. I'd support trimming the quote to what is relevant to the article at hand. If there's something I've missed here... please let me know :). Kafka Liz (talk) 23:32, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi Kansas. Do you think you can keep an eye on the article Çankaya Köşkü. Over the past few months, some IPs have been removing crucial bits of information about the previous owners of this palace, namely the fact that they were rounded up during the Armenian Genocide and dispossessed of all their belongings. The IPs delete these facts and the reader is left to wonder why and precisely when they were deported. On each occasion I have rolled back the unexplained edits (though it's clear enough to me why the information is being removed), but I'm unable to direct my attention to it always. I would appreciate it if maybe you can add it to your watch list. Thanks. Best regards, --Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 21:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Dear Sir, I am a student in O Levels and am studying Islamiat. The number of soldiers of the Byzantine Empire have been said to be 100,000 to 200,000 by various blog sites, books and the OFFICIAL Cambrdige Marking Scheme, but you deem many blogs an unreliable source, the number of soldiers said now are less than 10,000 on the official page. This may cause a lot of confusion among people, I tried to follow the cited source for 10,000 or less but could not trace back to any such figure. Please help me clear this confusion, and allow multiple blogs to be deemed as reliable sources, thanks.
Edit 2: I have in my hand the book of Yasmin Malik : Islam Beliefs and Practices, and on page 37 it clearly states the figure of 100,000, can you please fix this at your earliest convenience, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.153.183.115 (talk) 22:12, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
Yasmin Malik is the standard book to teach students Islamiat, one of the standard atleast, including Farkhanda Noor, I tried to follow the "reliable" sources but could NOT find the number 10,000 listed anywhere, wherever I see a number mentioned, it's 100,000, can you please point out where is 10k written? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.190.12.218 (talk) 04:42, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
Dear Kansas , I think you have made a mistake in your interpration about the meaning of ethnicity.If you read wikipedia about ethnicity you would see an ethnicity is defined based on the anccestors , language and culture of a group of people.as you do agree with e the later generations of the house of Seljuk was highly Persinated by culture and language , so I can not understand why do you against the Persian part of the house of Seljuk
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It seems Dengesizz (talk · contribs) is the new sockpuppet of EMr KnG (talk · contribs). I submitted a SPI case, Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/EMr_KnG. It will be very helpful if you write your comment. Because we encountered this user on several articles before (e.g. Template:History of the Turkic peoples pre-14th century). Also, it's possible that he registered multiple accounts and attacks other articles. Thanks. --Zyma (talk) 18:46, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
The battles of Salher and Raichur are not directly related to the battle of Tarain, however the single common element of all these battles are that they the ones whereby the native (Hindu) Indian army defeated (or achieved some level of success) an invading foreign one (here foreign one implies an Islamic one). Nonetheless your wish. Amit20081980 (talk) 10:42, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
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- LouisAragon (talk) 04:52, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
Do you agree with this reversion? Bests - LouisAragon (talk) 13:10, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
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I have read the Arabic and Byzantine history books about the battle in great detail. The muslims were first pushed back from the original battle field when three of thier leaders were killed. They then camped in Mutah were they skirmishes with the Byzantines and Khalid ibn waleed took over. Who made it appear as if new troops arrived. This made the Byzantines withdraw and then the muslims withdrew. YOU have to look at sources from both sides to get a clearer picture. Kasif the great (talk) 20:53, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
Hey infidel! Never insult Kasif the great (talk) or Muhammad or any other muslim again or I will troll the crap out of you! Takbir! ALLAHU AKBAR!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.19.238.67 (talk) 00:44, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for your kind opinion. I just in the process to translated the article from french to english, so I first translated all and at the end i put the respective references. Thanks a lot for your concern. Aldebaran69 (talk) 23:46, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
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Thank you sir! --Kansas Bear (talk) 02:39, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
Mind giving your opinion regarding this dispute here? It's about the inclusion of the Persian translation in the lede. - LouisAragon (talk) 02:41, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
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A user changed ethnicity of Massagetae [50]. Previous lead was stable for a long time and I think it's based on cited sources. That user is an experienced editor (an admin). So the new revision confuses me. Is it based on WP:WEIGHT or what? Would you please review it? --Zyma (talk) 16:38, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
Report that new user to an admin. As you already know, he and those IP-hoppers are this guy. Same insults, same behavior on talk page. --Zyma (talk) 06:02, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
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I already answered in the talk page, sorry for the time that i answered, i was busy--Vvven (talk) 00:04, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
Hey KB, long time no talk. Hope you're doing fine. I was wondering; could you perhaps check whether this added reference is a legit one? I've actually never read about these "plans" in the mainstream historiography, nor about the writer, hence my doubts. Thanks much in advance. Bests - LouisAragon (talk) 22:38, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
As a junior editor, I truly respect you and your point of views but could you please tell me that how the sources which I stated to back my information are wrong and how your source from a satisfactory book source which contradicts with many of the Old and modern Writings is more reliable and worth citing here. Thank You. Muhammadahmad79 (talk) 22:05, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
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Regarding this long unsourced sentence "The weeping boyars solemnly declared that if he persisted in his refusal, they would hold him responsible to God for the destruction of Russia" in the firts alinea of the body. I found the reference from which it is taken. Its written by R. Nisbet Bain, a late 1800/early 1900 historian, who published the material in 1908 (thus, outdated). The stuff is published in the 1911 Encylcopaedia Britannica publications as well. The thing now is however, Cambridge University Press has re-published his book in 2013 as the first paperback edition, which still includes the sentence (p 188). Do you think I should cite it as a reference behind the sentence and remove the 6-yo tag, perhaps adding a "Historian R. Nisbet Bain (1854–1909) stated that (...)" with it? Or do you think the whole line should be just deleted as no modern-day sources back up the thing, as well as because the whole thing is unsourced for like... 6 years? - LouisAragon (talk) 00:52, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
Lel, I think we got another one for your fanclub (User:Kansas tear). Also, btw, though you might have had already noticed; amongst the masses of socks who have been blocked in the past few days, Steverci has also been CU indeffed as a sock of a long-term sock abuser. My my, what a surprise. - LouisAragon (talk) 15:25, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
After checking the discussion, it appears to be more a matter of linguistics, which is not my forté. However, TaivoLinguist and Florian Blaschke may be able to assist you. Sorry. --Kansas Bear (talk) 17:03, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
Nothing. I even check google books in other languages. --Kansas Bear (talk) 22:00, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
Hello. What do you think about these edits?
Dear wikipedia user,
I have seen that you currently undid the changes on the page baghrir. I have explained in the talk page why certain additions were made, and tagged you in it. I have seen that you reverted some other pages aswell, accusing me of taking part in a edditing war. Please note that im not the one who is starting a edditing war on wikipedia. There has been 2 particular berber wikipedia users who have been sockpuppeting with many different accounts, constantly undoing information on the pages. It made me look like I'm the one who is constantly vandalising the page, but all the users are actually the same users. These users are user:JovanAndreano, user:Historydish, user:Americanpcuisine, user:AyOuBoXe, user:jasminjovo which all have been blocked by wikipedia administrators after investigations of sockpuppeting. The administrator user:Ponyo and other administrators have already taken a look at this problem back in may. Since the users have been blocked, they keep coming back every day to revert information like these users user:Saraanastasiabro, user:Narabrooklyn, user: DanaCastle, user:Billkinzie which all have been blocked aswell. I have taken the responsibility to battle this problem on some pages, reverting the information which is constantly being reverted by sockpuppets making it an endless job. The page Baghrir was aswell created by user:JovanAndreano with false information and poor sources.
You might aswell take a look at this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/JovanAndreano in which the user abuses multiple accounts. I actually tagged him on the talk page of the wiki page "tajine" a while ago, but he didn't react to it. I hope you understand my actions and behavior on wikipedia, none of it is meant to vandalise information, but many North-Africna pages include lots of false information with poor sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alhaqiha (talk • contribs) 19:01, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
These appear to be the sources that do not exist. Is this IP you? Said IP has also, according to Kuru, used as a reference a site which is a Wikipedia mirror site and added it to North African Arabs.[64] AND, copy and pasted information from somewhere to Wikipedia, also according to Kuru.[65]
For your information:
1- Nothing has changed on my edit, except two things: putting the right references on the right place instead of a block for all refs in the introduction & moving the origins block to a dedicated section [66]
2- The version your are putting back [67] is that of M.Bitton [68] a POV bias, instead of your own.
Regards,
--105.154.146.90 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:52, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
Hi. The IP just copy-pasted content from cited sources (e.g. Britannica and others).[69] He didn't edit them, just pure copy-paste. Is it OK? --Wario-Man (talk) 04:29, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
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Hello User:Kansas Bear, on the matter concerning User:Craft27by I've submitted a report here. Gerard von Hebel (talk) 23:43, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
Not bad. Guess we dodged a tornado a few nights ago, no sirens or any kind of warning. HA! Got to love living in Kansas! Although, I would not mind some cold weather. :/ --Kansas Bear (talk) 00:12, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
They are assuming bad faith and their edits are very POV. Have they pretended the IP is a different person? Edward321 (talk) 03:01, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
I had a suspicion that Georgian/Circassian/Armenian were spoken at the Safavid court, and indeed, David Blow (Shah Abbas: The Ruthless King Who Became an Iranian Legend. I.B.Tauris. ISBN 978-0857716767; pp 165-166) confirms my thought. I think it should be added to the Safavid dynasty infobox, do you agree? - LouisAragon (talk) 02:18, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
I am not surprised, some people just do not get it. Wow. --Kansas Bear (talk) 04:11, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
Sorry for the slow response, LA. If I were you I would address the supposed sources on the talk page contrasted against what sources really state about the Treaty. --Kansas Bear (talk) 04:37, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
Why reverting my contributions in this page?
Did I do something bad ? :( --Yufitran (talk) 02:28, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
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Just read your message. Sorry for being late. Yup, ANI is a total waste of time, except if one wants some kind of hilarious "show process" that is firstly very time consuming and often does not yield any results as well. Especially regarding IP's. Whenever an admin tells a legit long-standing member 1 on 1 that the matter should be taken to ANI it basically, with some exceptions, just means they are not in the mood/don't want to deal with it themselves. Think we both know that well after all this time. - LouisAragon (talk) 17:17, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
No good. JSTOR is a book review and it is non-viewable on google books. Sorry. --Kansas Bear (talk) 04:30, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
I wrote a source which gave a conservative number of 49 million of the Persian empire in 480 bc. The Seleucid inherited most of the former Persian Empire lands and wad around from 312 bc to 64 bc. The population would have at least doubled in his time. Kasif the great (talk) 18:52, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
Hello
If you look at battle of hattin number of crusader, they were 55,000 and not 20,000
Guy de lussignan was know for many time faking his stat
its time for you to understand that most of the christians stats are faked.
look at the french wikipedia version of this battle
Also for the siege of acre Garrison: 3000 killed or captured (2,700 saracen prisoners were killed by Richard Coeur de Lion.)
Richard Coeur de Lion as kill 2,700 sarasin prisionniers (captured) and like 300 child & womens
So we should precise that.
Such a gem.[75][76]. - LouisAragon (talk) 14:34, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
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The book has arrived in my local library and I'm reading it. Thanks for the recommendation. Excellent book, by Professor Peacock, who I know worked on the Seljuks of Rum which I read only one chapter of it. This book is part of the The Edinburgh History of the Islamic Empires, and after finishing this I might pick up some more in the future. Alexis Ivanov (talk) 23:54, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
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Well;
Given time I might be able to expand on Atkin's view, but as of right now, none of those sources support that sentence.
This sentence;
Makes it sound like there are other khanates besides the Azeri ones.
Oh, and I removed that Baddeley crap source. --Kansas Bear (talk) 01:55, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
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Would you please verify [79], [80] and [81]. What do you think? --Wario-Man (talk) 13:19, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
Hello Kansas Bear
I just want to ask you about about something
Is this good/reliable edit ? --Aṭlas (talk) 21:41, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
I doubt it. I am swamped with my own research. --Kansas Bear (talk) 02:17, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
[84][85]. - LouisAragon (talk) 22:41, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
Ahmadilis says the dynasty was Turkish in origin, with some connection (though "presumably" does not sound very evidence based) to the Rawadids - yet Rawadid dynasty says they were Arabs in origin who became Kurdified and whose descendants continued to rule in Maragheh as the Ahbadilis. So the two article are saying different things. I don't have sources to clarify this, but I see you did some editing to the Ahmadilis article. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 19:11, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
I just want to ask you If this three references are reliables and good for Couscous.
I want to use them if it's possible. --Aṭlas (talk) 21:09, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
I guess I screwed up on the House of Montlhery article. I was trying to redirect it and couldn't get the redirect to work. So, I repeatedly deleted what I had done and tried over again. I didn't realize that would trigger an Edit War warning. But it wasn't an Edit War, it was just me. Sorry.
Dr. Grampinator (talk) 19:12, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
I added some referenced content in this article (this is my edit) from (The Encyclopaedia of Islam 3rd ed). I want your opinion about this reference, because I know that You have experience in such matters. My question is: Is this a convenient reference for the article ? Best Regards --Aṭlas (talk) 14:49, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
hello.check this pleas https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tomb_of_Cyrus&diff=747118190&oldid=744112441 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.222.31.49 (talk) 22:08, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
No to both. One is a politician and the other is some outdated primary source. --Kansas Bear (talk) 22:15, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
I really want to clarify this Roman issue but people like you don't let me, so sad. Common people may think that byzantine empire is a different state when in fact is a despective name for the medieval Roman Empire. That needs to be pointed out. But ok, continue misinforming people. I'm not attacking you personally I don't know you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by A r m i n i u s (talk • contribs) 23:19, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
I was reading the disruptive editing article and I found something that really made me think about you.
(If an editor treats situations that are not clearly vandalism as such, that editor may harm the encyclopedia by alienating or driving away potential editors.)
I'm not a vandal. I just want to help with a harmful misconception. — Preceding unsigned comment added by A r m i n i u s (talk • contribs) 23:39, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
This IP, who claims to be "a historian",[88] changed some content here in the lede and added one outdated source to it, as well as one dubious source. He tried to add the same content earlier to it as well.[89]. Following a brief dig, I found The Encyclopedia of Islam (p. 821) which pretty much considers them to be a subgroup of the Lurs; "Lur -- an Iranian people living in the mountains in southwestern Persia. As in the case of the Kurds, the principal link among the four branches of the Lurs (Mamasani, Kuhghilu'i, Bakthiari, and Lur proper) is that of language." I suggest reverting the edit in question, adding the source to it, and changing that sentence to "The Bakhtiari are a subgroup of the Lurs. They speak the Bakhtiari dialect, a southwestern Iranian dialect, belonging to the Lurish language." Or something like that. Your opinion? - LouisAragon (talk) 16:28, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
Hi Kansas, how are you? With re to this talk section, I can not access the source provided. It would be appreciated if you could confirm that the information on Mozarabic language (Harvey, p 124) provided by the ever-mutating-editor-this-time IP 173.238.79.44 in the Infobox is actually true. Best regards Iñaki LL (talk) 22:38, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
- Elvira, Javier. (2008). "Reinos y Dialectos en la Edad Media Ibérica: La Construcción de la Identidad; Homenaje a Juan Ramón Lodares". p.523 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.238.79.44 (talk) 10:06, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
As I said before, that quote is taken from the Wikipedia article Navarro-Aragonese. Which I also said, "a Wikipedia article can not be used to reference other Wikipedia articles". That link to the book, ?wrong volume?, does not show Mozarabic, nor does a search for "Mozarabic" result in anything.
AND, since you have chosen to ignore my questions;
...therefore, unless you care to start responding directly I see no reason to continue to respond to you. --Kansas Bear (talk) 04:04, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
There is nothing on page 125 of Harvey's book stating 1118. You should ask for a quote(source & page number) that specifically states 1118 and Arabic, else the IP is back to giving their interpretation of information. --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:39, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
Is this reliable references Encyclopedia of Stateless Nations: Ethnic and National Groups around the World, 2nd Edition: Ethnic and National Groups around the World, The Peoples of Africa: An Ethnohistorical Dictionary and Les Berbères et le makhzen dans le sud du Maroc; essai sur la transformation politique des Berbères sédentaires (groupe chleuh) for this article ?
And if you have time can you check the revision history of this article to confirm the reliability and the validity of the interpretation of the references. Kind regards --Aṭlas (talk) 18:25, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
Hi. I saw you've requested a PP for Xionites. Don't you think PavelStaykov and those IPs are related to team Tirgil34? PavelStaykov targeted many Eurasian groups like Huns, Massagetae, Yuezhi, Xionites and etc. Just like Tirgil34, he uses turkicworld.org content as source. That turkicworld.org is blacklisted now. But he still copy-pastes them. Plus, he's a similar Turkic pov-pusher. For example, check IP-hoppers/IP-socks edits on Yuezhi. He uses Tirgil34's trademark (Türkic and Türk instead of Turkic and Turk), direct copy-pasted content from Tirgil34's website (turkicworld.org). --Wario-Man (talk) 09:56, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
the situation is not that simple dude, and life is not black and white. Instead of assuming that someone is trying to confuse you, why don't you assume that someone is making an attempt to improve these articles? An attempt that you have cockblocked by deleting content supported by multiple academic sources.[91] Not all editors are playing your stupid games who is ip-hopper or who is pro-/anti-turkic, понимаеш? I can only advice you to study the subject on hand before deleting information from the articles. Thank you for your understanding.
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Hello Kansas Bear
There is a user, who's introducing a big amount of content and removing the ancient lead without any concineous. Can you take a look at his edits if it's possible? Regards. --Aṭlas (talk) 19:09, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
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Apart from these four sources, that were blatantly deleted on the article,[93][94][95]
...I actually just found out that Toumanoff (p. 278) holds the exact same view in his The Orontids of Armenia study, which appeared as part III of his well known Studies in Christian Caucasian History (Georgetown, 1963). Here's what's stated on p. 278: "The eponym's praeonemen Orontes is as Iranian as the dynasty itself, derived from the Avestan auraund/aurvant ('mighty,' 'hero') and related to the Pehlevi arvand." Didn't know that. Thought you might be interested (in case you hadn't already seen it). - LouisAragon (talk) 01:35, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
Hello, Kansas Bear. I recommend you to add the following two pages related to the last Russo-Turkish war to your watchlist: Battle of Sarikamish and Caucasus Campaign. Recently, a newly created Turkish account was used there to inflate the number of Russian casualties in the Caucasus Campaign and downplay the strength and casualties of the Ottomans by all means possible. Your help is very much appreciated. FullertonCA (talk) 09:05, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
As I had added some of that important information concerning Ibn Hanbal, I ask to remove it temporarily because I am writing an essay on the matter -- once, I am done we can re-put it. Otherwise, the teacher will think I copied from wikipedia. Please do understand! Your help is appreciated!Megalodon34 (talk) 04:36, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
Hello Kansas Bear (merry christmas ;))
Can you take a look at Ziryab? There is tens of references in this page. If you have time can you check the reliability of this references ? Regards--Aṭlas (talk) 19:06, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
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Dear Kansas - I am contacting more or less at random, but based in part on your articles on European history. I don't want to use my established username - my contribs are under observation by a group of "conservapediots" - i.e. Wikipedia editors who follow the precepts of the online Conservapedia.
Most of the few articles I have reedited are on US history, ante bellum period, related to the political parties. I've written the narratives for a number of articles including the Bank War, Election of 1844, and I am currently editing Missouri Compromise. (I don't want to hyperlink these).
I was recently kicked off Wiki for 48 hours for posting warning not to engage me in "pseudo"-sockpuppet assaults. The problem is that during the years that I've been posting major, well-sourced articles, I have not been engaged by a single editor who supports my work. It would appear that I am on a blacklist. When this phony "edit" war at the Bank War was started, I was warned that by other editors that I was obligated to field these entirely unserious and tendentious complaints about minutiae related to the article. The "edit war" went on for weeks, and I was accused of being a sockpuppet.
My question is this: to what extent do you think that Wikipedia is infiltrated my editors from Conservapedia? What impact has this had on your own work, and what do we do about it? --68.107.181.155 (talk) 20:15, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
So far all edits made by the user in question were pseudo-historical fabrications, not covered by any source. He has created one article as well (very first edit). Speedy, I think? - LouisAragon (talk) 21:49, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
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Hi. This IP-hopper changed the accepted lead and he says current revision is misleading.[96][97]. I'm sure he's one of those blocked sockmasters (per his IP-range and edit style), but is Persianate Turco-Mongol empire misleading? Or is his changes constructive? I think his changes are pointless and unnecessary. Persianate links to Persianate society and that article is clear about the term. So should we keep older revision or accept his revision? --Wario-Man (talk) 08:38, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
What do you think about this new user edits, especially this two edits [98], [99]. He's using primary sources (ديوان المبتدأ والخبر في تاريخ العرب والبربر ومن عاصرهم من ذوي الشأن الأكبر , Mafākhir al Barbar......). Regards --Aṭlas (talk) 12:53, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
I think you, Walraisid and Constantine have things well in hand. I am not sure what more I could contribute. --Kansas Bear (talk) 22:36, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Do you really think the secondary sources I provided are not reliable ? (see, if you want, a "summary" at the end of this part). Fulgery (talk) 16:54, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
A perfect example of ignoring everything I have said. We are done here. --Kansas Bear (talk) 22:00, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Ibn Tumart#RfC: Should the article gives weight to the mahdist/sharifian claims. . Aṭlas (talk) 22:58, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
Sorry, but you have nearly accused me of vandalism, publishing a warning note on my talk page. WHY IS IT SO HARD TO BE A NEW EDITOR? I'm a new editor, and might do some mistakes at editing, but the exclusive reason I started editing, not long ago, is due to the amount of historical lack of information on certain themes, or sometimes, even worse, the manipulated and false imperialistic point of view on history, which was still fashionable for instance on the 20th century Francoist Spain, and after 40 years of military dictature, the historical fallacies on detriment of truth had been widely spread, and apparently still promoted by some, but shouldn't be present on the wikipedia. Sad but true. Some of my editions with references have been reverted to another uncited version, it's true my note on the Albigensian crusade didn't have a quote, but linked to articles which give details. Anyway I feel also happy to say that other users support the truth, and some of my editions on other articles have been supported and re-edited by other users when reverted by imperialist liars. Finally and hopefully the truth prevails. If you take a minute to look at my editings, which include a translation of an entire article about a medieval manuscript, you will see I always try my best at bringing accurate cited historical information, so readers will take acknowledgement not only of the historical events, but also of their contemporary historical background. So, no means to make you waste your precious time, but... why did you erase the note about Peter III of Aragon? I explained who was Peter the Catholic, who died in the Albigensian Crusade, fighting against the crusaders, defending his vassal lords of Occitania and Roussillon, and himself Lord of Montpellier since he married Marie of Montpellier in 1204... As soon as 1209 the crusaders were starring the Massacre at Béziers. My note about Peter II is totally ON-TOPIC and verifiable. WOULDN'T YOU WANT TO KNOW that the King who fought and died defending his vassal lords accused of Christian Cathar heresy had been not long awarded with the exclusive Papal award Rex Catholicissimus before giving his life fighting against the crusaders? Peter wasn't heretic, and was never accused of heresy of course, but nevertheless he defended his vassals til death. Nowadays no-one outside the Catalan-speaking Countries, except from scholars, has heard about the Crown of Aragon (union of the Kingdom of Aragon, coastless, with the Counts of Barcelona, with important ports on the Mediterranean and the most powerful county of the Principality of Catalonia); nor about its king Peter the Catholic, (awarded with the Papal title of Rex Catholicissimus some years before whilst fighting the Moors on the context of the Reconquista, his most important triumph, just a year before he died fighting the crusaders, was the battle of Las Navas de Tolosa in 1212), who was as well lord of Montpellier from 1204 by marriage. Most people haven't heard about those, and it doesn't seem important, but at the time of the Albigensian Crusade, the Crown of Aragon was a growing power. The crusaders had already the bad fame of sacking Constantinople twice during the fourth crusade in 1204. IT IS RELEVANT INFORMATION, so people understand exactly what it was: a genocide led and promoted by France (casually the Dolphin of France was married to Blanche of Castile, being the Crown of Castile natural rival of the Crown of Aragon, who held control of the Mediterranean Sea coast and its trade). Another Castilian, Domingo de Guzmán, who had been an ambassador of the king Alfonso VIII of Castile in Denmark and had visited Rome for State matters around 1205, formed in Occitania the Order of the Friars Preachers in order to eradicate the so-called Catharism heresy. As it has its own chapter in the article, this crusade was a genocide. But furthermore, a french conquest of the lands which were vassal to the Crown of Aragon, undermining its power in the area. Please, I beg you stop erasing information. Let's leave readers decide if it's worth the information or not. Don't you think so? LEAST CALL ME A VANDAL, sir, it is TOTALLY UNFAIR... Ethra2016 (talk) 21:00, 23 January 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ethra2016 (talk • contribs)
Sir, Peter II of Aragon did die at the battle of Muret on 12 September 1213, fighting the crusaders indeed. NOT Peter III as you erroneously wrote (who was his grandson). Peter II was indeed the first king of the Crown of Aragon to be crowned directly by the Pope at Rome (which not many kings at that time did), entrusting his realm to the Papacy and making the oath to defend the Christian faith.[1] I haven't found references that say he was awarded with the title Rex Catholicissimus specifically though. Another article in the wiki says so, but no references neither, sorry. Apparently all an error. I'll further search for references, if any, and meanwhile have erased the unreferenced information on the other article in which the misinterpreted information was edited. Anyway, Peter II was a recognized christian king, crowned by the Pope, and he opposed the crusade anyway, and even died defending the so-called cathar lords of Occitania. I think it's worth saying, don't you think so? I still think is on-topic, furthermore, he was Lord of Montpellier (neighbouring area of the attacked territories of Occitania) since 1204, when he married Maria of Montpellier. Many specialized scholars agree the Albigensian crusade was a political strategy basically held by France (dynastically allied with Castile) to conquest the south and undermine the influence of the Crown of Aragon. Please, can you comment on my talk page and comment or revert your note which treats me as a vandal, it's totally not true and unfair Sir. Maybe I should have brought the subject to the talk page, and sorry about copying an error on other page, which I though was referenced, but was not... my confusion on that, sorry, BUT he was indeed crowned at Rome by the Pope Innocent III himself, and THAT is referenced, but not the Papal title itself. Well, no one is perfect, sorry. I'm new, I learnt. Thank you for all together making Wikipedia better.Ethra2016 (talk) 01:25, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
-... why did you erase the note about Peter III of Aragon?... -Sorry, I meant the note ON Peter III article (about Peter II), a misunderstanding, only that. Thank you for your time, sorry about the whole thing. PeaceEthra2016 (talk) 06:26, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
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Please explain why the reference to Battle of Chaldiran was removed from First Battle of Panipat. The Battle of Chaldiran was one of the first in Asia to make heavy use of artillery and muskets to win a battle. Babur acquired his artillery and muskets from Ottoman empire and learned the tactics of amassing firepower behind the protection of carts, which was used in both First Battle of Panipat and Battle of Khanwa. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayonpradhan (talk • contribs) 16:50, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
Hello Kansas Bear
I just want to let you know that I reverted this page to the 22 February 2015 version. This was the most reliable and NPOV version. Regards --Aṭlas (talk) 19:22, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
This "new" account's editorial pattern looks extremely much to me like that of an old acquiantance (not sure whether your fine with that label here though, sorry) of yours. Proficiency, target articles, "interests", specific information removals, etc. all bear a striking resemblance imho. At least from what I can remember. All in all, definetely not a new user. Your thoughts? - LouisAragon (talk) 20:13, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
Hi, Kansas Bear! I've just noticed that user Geotem has been waging an edit war in the Battle of Konotop article, trying hard to place his heavily exaggerated estimate of Russian casualties above the well-documented one and put it before the references that don't support his estimate and consider it unreliable and inflated. Please, keep an eye on that page and help to protect it from POV-pushing. Asharidu (talk) 14:44, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
I have some concerns about the sources used in these sentences, and the overal deduction of information, as a secondary point;
"The Bagrationi dynasty has been reputed the oldest royal dynasty in Europe,[7][9][10][11] although Walter Curley's Monarchs-in-Waiting attributes that distinction to the Capetians of France,[14] as does Joseph Valynseele's Les Prétendants aux Trônes d'Europe,[15] who still reign in Spain and Luxembourg, while L. G. Pine contends that the Irish ruler, Niall of the Nine Hostages, fl. in the early 5th century AD also has living heirs,[16] although, like the Bagrationi, no longer reigning."
Now let's take a look at the sources a bit more in detail;
Your thoughts? - LouisAragon (talk) 18:16, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
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Hello, Kansas Bear - I appreciate your further copy-editing of Sack of Shamakhi (1721). I guess when I copy-edit articles for Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests, particularly those written in less-than-perfect prose (sometimes by non-native speakers of English), I just concentrate on putting the sentences into standard English and on improving the flow of the sentences. I only remove text if it seems to duplicate something already said elsewhere or is just useless fluff – completely unnecessary words. Otherwise, I don't drastically change what the requester has written. I see you are bolder than I am. I'm just curious what goes into your decision to remove larger swaths of text. How do you decide? I'd really like to learn from you. Best regards, – Corinne (talk) 01:02, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
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Hi. What do you think about [100] and [101]? Very strange claims and sources. --Wario-Man (talk) 19:24, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
Sent you a mail btw, about Stevenson's work on James III (Power and Propaganda: Scotland 1306-1488). Forgot to let you know. - LouisAragon (talk) 20:43, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
As far as I can see, Margaret Bedrosian's, "The Magical Pine Ring: culture and the imagination in Armenian-American literature (short fiction by Armenian-American writers)" isn't a RS source? [102][103]. It is/was used on numerous occasions on the linked article, hence my question. - LouisAragon (talk) 15:29, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
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What do you think about Martin Sicker, author of f.e. The Islamic World in Decline: From the Treaty of Karlowitz to the Disintegration of the Ottoman Empire'. Would you think he's usable on history-related topics? Didn't really manage to find more than this;
"MARTIN SICKER is a private consultant who has served as a senior executive in the US government and has taught political science at the American University and George Washington University. Dr. Sicker has written extensively in the field of political science and international affairs. He is the author of 13 previous books, including the companion volumes, The Pre-Islamic Middle East (Praeger, 2000) and The Islamic World in Ascendancy: From the Arab Conquests to the Siege of Vienna (Praeger, 2000)." - LouisAragon (talk) 03:07, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
This is not about Hassan. The source is about the Safavids, and about Shah Ismail. Please refer to the source of Hassan and Aggoyunl ... The king's titles can be 100. You do not need to write them. We only need to write a formal title. Uzun Hasan Shah of Iran was not. Because at that time there were no Iranian state. Aydinsalis (talk) 19:43, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
Your revertings are part of a series of zionist attacks on the article Muhammad. I have flagged that as WP:DDE. kr ERDINC (talk) 22:57, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
@KansasBear, I'm sorry if you found my comments too personal, but I would like you to know that you come across as having a very high and arrogant attitude. This is an example. Pledging yourself to "pizzaism" and making a mockery of his ideas when another user is trying to air his point makes you come across as a self intelligent, know it all. I'm sure it's not just me that feels that way. I think you should try to temper your pride, and as for me I shall try my best to go and see how to cite a source that's not geni.com . Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.116.101.18 (talk) 03:24, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
@KansasBear First of, I'm not ERDINC, I don't even know him but I can see that you adopt a similar attitude with other people. I'm pretty sure he's saying your views are zionist (I don't agree or disagree, because he constructs them as being against his religion). So what I'm saying is you should address why he says this instead of talking about "pizzaism". I don't claim to know anything about you, but reading your comments I can infer that you think very highly of yourself and patrol Wikipedia enforcing every rule which doesn't fit your agenda. You now use vulgarities and personally attack me, so your doing the exact thing you claim not to be doing that's "against the rules" that you love to patrol enforcing. I simply came to Wikipedia to make contributions (I admit some are wrong), and you go around using a very high handed attitude deleting everything you don't like. As for 4 sisters all queens, I know it's historical fiction but birthdates are normally taken from research and are not just random dates someone pulls out . I've seen many people here, and evidently you go around warning people who don't got your definition of "encyclopedic" and claim that your blocks or warnings are all valid. (Just look through your talk page). Regardless, I'm not going to be a keyboard warrior and argue with you. I don't have 11 years to patrol Wikipedia. Cheerio — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.116.101.18 (talk) 04:34, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is article on prophet Muhammed is mutliple times under attack by zionist users (using different user ids). NeilN talk to me 23:03, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
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I asked you one day about the reliability of a ref, you said that it seems good. But an editor removed the ref claiming that it's a "Highly unreliable source". What do you think ? + Do you have an access to the full online version of (encyclopedia of islam, 3rd edition)? Can you provide me with the full version of this entry (Boumedienne). Regards -Aṭlas (talk) 18:17, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
Unknowingly you're supporting POV pushers that behaved badly and were blocked: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Battle_of_the_Persian_Gate#Hey_asshole. You're also going against simple logic and fairness. I think our interaction got too heated (both our fault) and neither of us wants to admit to being wrong even partially. I hope we can have a discussion without the edit war.Simanos (talk) 19:35, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
Hi, Where is the nonsensical thing ? The same applies to other articles. What is the difference from other articles? Arabs-Turks and Mongols are influenced by persian culture. Is there a special point of view against the Turkic people ? Because we see that the same thing is applied only to the articles that concern the Turkic people. Abbasids have reliable and academic resources. I admit that Ilkhanate source is not very reliable. However, Mongols when they are culturally affected like the same Turks. The situation of Ilkhanate is very clear. I think the source is unnecessary. Already certain.--212.252.99.122 (talk) 07:59, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
I have no problem the word persianate. Of course, the Turkic people are influenced in the cultural sense. But why do they bring it to the top in the definition of the state. It is wrong to include it in the definition of the state. The real point I can't understand; This is only done in the Turkic states.
I will give you an example; Roman Empire influenced by Greek culture and language. So the roman empire is a Hellenized empire. But it would be wrong if we use it to describe the state.
My English is middle level. I realize that sentence is not very true. in any case it is wrong to use it in the definition of the state. I think it is not impartial to make this only to the Turkic states. After the state description is done correctly; Would not it be more correct to state this cultural interaction in a more objective manner? Examples I see; Ag Qoyunlu-Timurid Empire-Khwarazmian Empire-Seljuk Empire. These are just some examples. I think it's distorted according to nationalist interests. But I can't understand why administrators don't prevent this. The Arabs and the Mongols were culturally influenced as much as the Turks. I told you them because you are interested in these topics and you are an old user. --212.252.99.122 (talk) 13:33, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
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read gumilev book page 92 and Frederick W. Mote book page 405Joohnny braavoo1 (talk) 20:15, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
okey but why are they mongol then? You get disturbed because they may are a xiongnu tribe? you deleted turkic articels not mongol ,many butthurts in wikipedia i see and what is the problem white some of these peoples? khamag mongol and tatar is mongol the rest turkicJoohnny braavoo1 its a confederation whit mongol and turkic-mongol tribes!!(talk) 20:44, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
My english is enough for me! i find reference that zubu show as turkic tribe but did not know the important between research and synthesis, sorry my mistake:)Joohnny braavoo1 (talk) 21:40, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
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Is there any administrative decision on Administrator's noticeboard#Several violations? Why topic was archived? John Francis Templeson (talk) 21:57, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
I noticed you reverted an edit on Co-Princes of Andorra. I was suspicious of the same edit myself, but it turns out it's not the POV vandalism we'd expect. The image is cropped so it's just a more recent picture of Macron's face. —Guanaco 00:56, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
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Hi Kansas bear, i can see you're reverting all sources without any explanation, Ibn Al-Haytham was a scientist and i think that the IOP of London is a more reliable source that your sole opinion. They are dealing with all physicians and not only muslims, that's not a reason to say they are not reliables...It's easy to revert all changees just because you don't want to admit that the ethnicity of that scholar is NOT clear and doing so means you don't respect the rules of Wikipedia, and apparently you just don't care about that. So could you please give me an explanation for that ?
I'm not a blocked user, if i was i would not be able to edit... I just think that you cannot read correctly my friend: You don't answer my question : Why isn't Institute of Physics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_of_Physics) a relable sources ? just because you say that ? Hmmmm...?
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Listen to me, I am not merely "Editing" the page. I am demanding SOURCES for baseless claims. I get that according to wikipedia, this is called Editing, but the edit-war is only due to that user who is reverting them just to suit his POV by taking the excuse of removing my "POV". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.97.48.11 (talk) 16:26, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
Hey Kansas Bear, I just wanted to let you know that historically turkoman and oghuz turks were used synonymously but most of oghuz turks history revolved around turkish and azeri people and not around the modern turkmen people . Although oghuz turks have three main ethnics part of it of which turkmen is part of it but historically its been either turkish people or azeri people who have ruled anatolia . If you look at the anatolian beyliks they were speakers of anatolian turkish which is western oghuz language while turkmen is eastern language. All rulers were turkish and spoke anatolian turkish under seljuks who were turkish and ancestors of modern turkish people . Anatolian beyliks are descendants of seljuks and spoke turkish and were oghuz turks . So although in some sources turkmen is written but that was the turkmen word being used instead of oghuz turks not implying the modern turkmen people who are somewhat a different ethnic group. I hope you can help me fix this
Abbasid caliphs the opportunity to reassert their traditional role as sovereign arbitrators. A major weakness of Buyid rule was the fact that the Deylamites remained footsoldiers, so that from the beginning the Buyids were forced to employ Turkish horsemen in large numbers to balance their armies. Fighting between the two ethnic elements became endemic under the later Buyids. The Turkish element also quickly intruded into the ruling house. ʿAżod-al-Dawla himself was half Turkish, the son of a Turkish concubine, and some of the later Buyids had more Turkish than Deylamite blood. By 453/1062 Buyid rule had been overthrown by the Saljuq Turks. find this in “DEYLAMITES,” Encyclopaedia Iranica i Wonder if it's usefulJoohnny braavoo1 (talk) 00:44, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
Recent issue:
Is the current lead section NPOV and WP:WEIGHT or I should remove "Iranian" origin from the lead section? Please check Origins section on the article. --Wario-Man (talk) 07:33, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) @Wario-Man: This is new Tirgil34 sock making large number of edits on India-related articles to look like a reputable editor but similarities with the sockmaster is astonishing[110][111][112][113][114]. Other possible socks are [115] and [116].
What's the problem with the source? Ping me please, I watch your page but might miss it. Doug Weller talk 17:10, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
I added this section[123] in 2015. Now I think it's more accurate and neutral to change it to this title[124] because "Scythian tribes" may confuse the readers and some editors, e.g. they think Scythians were a specific ethnic group. Is it OK? What is your suggestion? --Wario-Man (talk) 12:55, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
Dear Kansas Bear, I am here to inform you that you and other editors have made incorrect edits to Battle of Haldighati. If you not have heard but the government of Rajashtan has recently accepted the change to history textbooks. Rajashtan textbooks now state that Maharana Pratap won the war. I kindly request that you change the article to the correct information.
Thanks, User:TheNewSMG
No one cares what you think of Rajashtan but the textbooks have been changed and Wikipedia is not even close to history textbooks — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheNewSMG (talk • contribs) 14:44, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi Kansas! I should point out, for what is worth, you may have noticed that a disruptive editor blocked at last in June is doing his 'best' to fool the system, clearly, all in the same direction, Iberian Peninsula articles, a case of WP:NOTHERE. Best Iñaki LL (talk) 11:13, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
Kansas Bear, reposting private emails is typically considered a bad idea (see Wikipedia:Emailing_users#Reposting_emails_publicly) and I have revdeleted one, from User talk:Krajoyn. I hope you understand. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 13:27, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
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Hi Kansas Bear, regarding my reversion on the article that placed Afghanistan along with Pakistan as the Indian subcontinent. Why did you remove it? I believe it was in good faith since generally according to Wikipedia's own page on the Indian subcontinent, Afghanistan is not part of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_subcontinent
If you want, maybe i can word the sentence better? Akmal94 (talk) 12:17, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
References
I apologize you are correct,the sentence seems fine once reading over it. Akmal94 (talk) 04:29, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
I took my concerns to the talk page of Ismail I.
Regards, Emiel (talk) 08:17, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
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Should the Corinthian War (or the resulting Peace of Antalcidas) be added to the infobox of the Achaemenid Empire? Curious about your opinion. - LouisAragon (talk) 23:56, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
Bro seen you had been frequently editing 'battle of haldighati' claiming to be desicive mughal victory but being a history schoolar neither of the ambition of mughals were fullfuled and all they had no answere of bhill archers moreover its a well know fact that there were more than 80000 mughal soldires please dont spread false propaganda Shakta11 (talk) 20:43, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
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Please come to the section [125]and help me out. Khirurg has chosen not to do anything substantial except sling mud. Give me your Consensus there please. Lord Aseem (talk) 05:11, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
Not this issue, the issue regarding the Roy 2004 and Roy 2014 scholastics. He doesn't seem to simply get it. All I need is you to give your verdict on is the Roy thingy. I have already apologized for the the rest. BTW, Eurocentric White-Supremacist Neo-Nazi imaginary fairytale is again a out of context comment. I meant that if Khirurg could conjure up any source that speaks directly of "Greek Technological superiority over Indians" even from the such sources, I would accept it.Lord Aseem (talk) 13:31, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
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Hi, you left an edit war warning on my talk page. This isn't valid. --Moshe Avigdor (talk) 17:54, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi Kansas Bear, i'm here because i'm looking for confirmed editors who are competent in the field of medieval islam. Judging by your very sourced contribution on ibn al-Haytham's talk page, you are ! I would like to know your opinion about the article on Muhammad ibn-Musa al-Khwarizmi. I investigated the sources claiming he is the father of algebra, and i wanted to write in his article something like "often regarded as the father of algebra" or "considered by many as the father of algebra". I found many solid sources for that (S. Gandz, C. B. Boyer), but two other contrbutors want to state the weaker claim "considered the father of algebra by some authors". When i look at Hyppocrates for example, it's stated in his article "father of early medicine", not "father of early medicine for some authors" even if other candidates exist (Charaka or Imhotep)... Thanks for your valuable time and your precious opinion. Wikaviani (talk) 10:42, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
What is the source for Chrotolind? I’m puzzled about the ? mark. Thank you for your help. Sherie50 (talk) 18:55, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
I understand the problem with the above references and Merovingian research. I have only found her on Wikipedia and “Royality for Commoners”, which includes all genealogies - even the implausible.
It sounds as if different editors have different standards of reliability, resulting in the ? on some pages and not others. And that there is no way of determining the source without looking at the books listed in the bibliography. Correct? Thank you for your help. I’m new st using Wikipedia for this purpose. The gray areas are a little broader than in some fields —� Sherie50 (talk) 05:42, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
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Hi, thanks for the message you sent me. I merely followed the example of others -- namely, placing Persian(the ethnicity) into article(s) without proper sourcing or giving Persian ethnicity undue weight into the lead of articles. Would you be inclined to discussing this with them? Thanks for your understanding and I look forward to your reply. Objective Historian (talk) 05:36, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
Sir, regarding the "Al-Tabari" article, the referenced Encyclopedia Iranica article says: "There is thus no way of knowing for certain whether Ṭabari’s family was native to the Āol region or perhaps arrived with the wave of Muslim colonists after the Abbasid revolution, either as converts or Arab settlers."
Since, as in the case of the Hunayn ibn Ishaq article: "there are multiple theories about his ethnicity in the body of the article, placing just one in the lead is undue weight", perhaps it's better to follow that example. Thanks and I look forward to your reply. Make Wikipedia Great Again!!Objective Historian (talk) 06:22, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
How am I involved in edit warring?![128] I just reverted 2 of his edits, neither 3RR nor edit warring.[129][130] Have you verified his edits?[131][132][133][134] And added this after his comments on the talk page.[135] Did you read my comments? Should I provide some evidences how he does POV-pushing on several other articles? --Wario-Man (talk) 05:40, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
I'm not sure who to advise. It appears the Labasan is back under the name Jobee Dalog Labasan. There are about 50 strange edits today involving infobox images on pope pages. I've started to rv some. Cheers. Mannanan51 (talk) 06:11, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
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What do you think of these edits?[153] Are you, by any chance, able to view the sources? Given "Retrieverlove"'s editorial pattern, I wonder whether the two new names he added to the list were actually of Turcoman origin, or whether this is just another unsourced addition. - LouisAragon (talk) 12:50, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
Mark r.v southern
Contagious Couplings: Transmission of Expressives in Yiddish Echo Phrases is The book about qara khitai and p 77 Brazil38 (talk) 14:30, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
Why give me Edit warning so fast i havet source on qara khitai Brazil38 (talk) 14:32, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
Juha jahnunen his book the mongol languages says The were turkicized too... Brazil38 (talk) 14:48, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
The book is from 2006 and i think If som one must havet a Edit warning The it is you Brazil38 (talk) 14:53, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
Qara khitai are often referred to as infidel turks read birans book page 143 !! You hide important facts! Brazil38 (talk) 15:30, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
Please take a look at the references I provided on my own user page about the issue of Persianate culture. The sources are written by actual experts on Turkish and Ottoman history, and are not passing references to it in the context of other discussions, as were the quotes that you gave. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.232.251.99 (talk) 20:23, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
Could you review this edit and compare sourced text with the book to see if they match or not?[154] Also consider these edits too.[155], [156], and [157]. Plus I enabled my email feature. --Wario-Man (talk) 06:47, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
I really doubt that user is neutral. Who calls an edit like this as "fix"?[158] Plus [159], [160], [161]. As I said, some users should always watch and check his edits. He reminds me of several sockmaster cases (past and current ones). I don't know why all of them behave similar. Is it a common WP:BATTLEGROUND + nationalism mentality? From Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/EMr KnG to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Joohnny braavoo1 and some others. And why this another guy involved himself in edit warring?[162] --Wario-Man (talk) 10:08, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
Though its all straightforward and basic information (I hadn't seen the paper before I think, though perhaps you had); Matthee, Rudi (2010). Was Safavid Iran and Empire?. Journal of the Economic and Social History of the Orient: 53. pp. 233-265.
Ethnic diversity;
"In its ethnic make-up, the Safavid realm was more heterogenous than in its religious diversity. The country was populated by Persians, Turks, and Arabs, in addition to a multitude of smaller, less prominent groups such as Baluchis, Kurds, Lurs, Turkmen, Circassians, and Lezghis. Further ethno-religious diversity was introduced with the transfer of large numbers of Armenians and Georgians, from their ancestral homelands, which were annexed by Safavid Iran (...) The country's domestic Armenians formed a sizeable group (...)" -- p. 240
Language of culture from the Balkans to India;
"Persian was also the language of culture, above all of poetry--as it was for the entire area between the Balkans and the Deccan--where it functioned as a lingua franca." -- p. 244
Diminishing of influence of the Turkomans;
"Beginning in the sixteenth century, the Safavids, seeking to curtail thepower and influence of the unruly tribal Turkman forces, introduced a new service elite without tribal ties consisting of Armenian, Georgian, and Circassian “slaves.” As said, these ghulams were given high-ranking positions in the military and the administration following their formal conversion to Islam. With a new identity came a new name. Many were named Rustam or Khusraw, names from the Shahnamah with links to the ancient mythical past." -- p. 245
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I noticed in Spencer C. Tuckers, A Global Chronology of Conflict: From the Ancient World to the Modern Middle East, as well as Axworthy's A History of Iran: Empire of the Mind (as well as other titles), that the Qajars managed to retake the city of Ganja during the offensive of 1826. The city was retaken without a battle, apparently, for the Russians simply surrendered it/withdrew from it. Do you think this event, which didn't culminate in a so-called "pitched battle, deserves a separate article? Or should it just be lumped into existing articles?
I also sent you a reply regarding your inquiry about Dean's chapter in the Cambridge Medieval History (vol. 5). The Ezzelino's are indeed an odd case. Looking forward to your response.
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Could you take a look at these articles and some claims by a specific user?
Seems that user has a pro-Pashtun/Afghan pov. The cited sources do not look WP:RS and I think the RS ones like Oxford are just misrepresentation and his original researches.@LouisAragon: Don't you agree with me? --Wario-Man (talk) 14:52, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
Is this legit or a strong source for such a big claim?[182] How can I verify this "Cambridge Encyclopedia"?
Isn't it outdated or dubious? And please comment on Talk:Bactria#bactrian_people. The edit warrior/new user is now teaching me the Wikipedia rules and turned the whole conversation into a personal fight! I don't know how to deal with him. Need your help. --Wario-Man (talk) 08:00, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
I thought you might be interested in this material from Bournoutian's new book. Sorry in advance if you think I cluttered your talk page!
Bournoutian, George A. (2016). The 1820 Russian Survey of the Khanate of Shirvan: A Primary Source on the Demography and Economy of an Iranian Province prior to its Annexation by Russia. Gibb Memorial Trust.;
p. xvi
"As noted, in order to construct an Azerbaijani national history and identity based on the territorial definition of a nation, as well as to reduce the influence of Islam and Iran, the Azeri nationalists, prompted by Moscow devised an "Azeri" alphabet, which replaced the Arabo-Persian script. In the 1930s a number of Soviet historians, including the prominent Russian Orientalist, Ilya Petrushevskii, were instructed by the Kremlin to accept the totally unsubstantiated notion that the territory of the former Iranian khanates (except Yerevan, which had become Soviet Armenia) was part of an Azerbaijani nation. Petrushevskii's two important studies dealing with the South Caucasus, therefore, use the term Azerbaijan and Azerbaijani in his works on the history of the region from the sixteenth to the nineteenth centuries. Other Russian academics went even further and claimed that an Azeri nation had existed from ancient times and had continued to the present. Since all the Russian surveys and almost all nineteenth-century Russian primary sources referred to the Muslims who resided in the South Caucasus as "Tatars" and not "Azerbaijanis", Soviet historians simply substituted Azerbaijani for Tatars. Azeri historians and writers, starting in 1937, followed suit and began to view the three-thousand-year history of the region as that of Azerbaijan. The pre-Iranian, Iranian, and Arab eras were expunged. Anyone who lived in the territory of Soviet Azerbaijan was classified as Azeri; hence the great Iranian poet Nezami, who had written only in Persian, became the national poet of Azerbaijan.
p. xvii;
"Although after Stalin's death arguments rose between Azerbaijani historians and Soviet Iranologists dealing with the history of the region in ancient times (specifically the era of the Medes), no Soviet historian dared to question the use of the term Azerbaijan or Azerbaijani in modern times. As late as 1991, the Institute of History of the Academy of Sciences of the USSR, published a book by an Azeri historian, in which it noy only equated the "Tatars" with the present-day Azeris, but the author, discussing the population numbers in 1842, also included Nakhichevan and Ordubad in "Azerbaijan". The author, just like Petrushevskii, totally ignored the fact that between 1828 and 1921, Nakhichivan and Ordubad were first part of the Armenian Province and then part of the Yerevan guberniia and had only become part of Soviet Azerbaijan, some eight decades later."
p. xv;
"Although the overwhelming number of nineteenth-century Russian and Iranian, as well as present-day European historians view the Iranian province of Azarbayjan and the present-day Republic of Azerbaijan as two separate geographical and political entities, modern Azeri historians and geographers view it as a single state that has been separated into "northern" and "southern" sectors and which will be united in the future."
p. xviii;
"Since the collapse of the Soviet Union the current Azeri historians have not only continued to use the terms "northern" and "southern" Azerbaijan, but also assert that the present-day Armenian Republic was a part of northern Azerbaijan. In their fury over what they view as the "Armenian occupation" of Nagorno-Karabakh [which incidentally was an autonomous Armenian region within Soviet Azerbaijan], Azeri politicians and historians deny any historic Armenian presence in the South Caucasus and add that all Armenian architectural monuments located in the present-day Republic of Azerbaijan are not Armenian but [Caucasian] Albanian."
- LouisAragon (talk) 19:26, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
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The reliability of this source has already been discussed at length, and according to the discussion at WP:RSN as well as widespread, heavy and consistent use of it across the spectrum of WP:CATHOLIC articles, there has been no repudiation of its reputation for fact-checking and editorial oversight. The onus would be on you to muster a change in WP:CONSENSUS and deprecate its use in the project. 98.176.128.60 (talk) 20:17, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
If I've done the wrong change, then you can fix it if you want thanksSazz10 (talk) 21:46, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
I put the text in the wrong place , it is about languageSazz10 (talk) 12:52, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
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Hi Kansas Bear, how are you? It would be appreciated your attention back here. The issue seems to be not going, and the editor does not understand that he is misrepresenting sources, and wp:synthing. I am not edit-warring, hope I do not have to open an incident. Best regards Iñaki LL (talk) 10:38, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
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IP has tagged infobox entries.[183] Your thoughts? --Wario-Man (talk) 11:20, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
Yes i agree with it and i will try and resolve this issue on the talk page. I have reverted it back to what it was originally. I would discuss this on talk page to further confirm the sources. Thankyou for letting me know.
Would you be willing to review these edits?[184] - LouisAragon (talk) 18:25, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
That's ok...when I get a chance, I'll try to find more references. I was just trying to fix all the names that RosieStroud changed, putting them back in English. Regards, Maragm (talk) 06:50, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
Hi,
Yes, that is my IP when I am using my mobile date outside of home. I use this account at home. Anyway, I’m saw the note you left on my page. I was not trying to start an edit war, I actually clarified with celia I actually was conforming to her conclusion of Isabella being born in 1188 and age 60 would be her age if we had used the other date of 1186. I left a note on her talk page already. Sorry if it seemed like an edit war. Cheers PrinceofFrancia (talk) 10:55, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
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Hey kansas Bear,
The editor Frasfras17 seems to have his own view of medieval scholars' ethnicity. Creating the template "Template:Arabic historians" while adding it to "Category:Arab Muslim historians of Islam", "Arab historians" and still claiming that "The template is called "Arabic historians" not "Arab historians" and it is concerned with historians of Arabic Tradition regardless of their ethnicity" I don't understand what he meant by "Arabic Tradition". He just translated the Arabic template "قالب:مؤرخو العصر الإسلامي" (Historians of the islamic age) and removed some historians from the original one. Why he changed "Historians of the islamic age" to "Arabic historians"? Isn't that pov pushing? Now he's adding some categories he created ("Medieval Moorish mathematicians", "Medieval Moorish astronomers"). You notice what ? They're all in a "Medieval Arab XXXX" category. Without talking about the things you mentioned here about him. This editor looks to me like a sock of the blocked sockpuppeteer Tarook97. The same editing patterns (adding arab everywhere...), the same place (saudi arabia) which links him even to user:Nabataeus (he's also from Saudi Arabia) and the same interests.... Regards ---Aṭlas (talk) 16:33, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi I edited the page “Geoffrey of Monmouth” adding date ranges. Would you like to check it out? PrinceofFrancia (talk) 04:48, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
Actually, I did have sources to back my edits. Look up the page. What does in benefit me if he was born in 1090 or 1095 or 1100? There’s nothing to manipulate. Just search “Geoffrey of Monmouth born” and you get a variety of sources. It’s just that that’s what various sources say about him.
Have a look at “Monmouth University” page 37 by Jim Reme, Tova Navarra, Tova Navarra, R.N.
“Arthurian figures of history and legend” which I have cited.
“King Arthur: the mystery unraveled” page 26 by Chris Barber
“A concise history of wales” by geraint H Jenkins on page 84 which I have cited as well.
https://minds.wisconsin.edu/bitstream/handle/1793/61660/Berthold_John.pdf?sequence=2 Talks about the date range of his birth.
“Humanist Educational Theory, Gregory the Great, and Culinary Comedy” by Paul Maurice Clogan on page 151 also mentions he was born around then.
PrinceofFrancia (talk) 09:18, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
Anyway sorry I don’t know how to font them as you have. But you get my point. Simply put, in the case of Geoffrey, the dates range from 1090 to 1100 (we don’t know) and since we have no concrete evidence we can simply put that it is a range in the infobox and use the average as the approximate PrinceofFrancia (talk) 09:23, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
If I truly wanted to manipulate anything I probably wouldn’t tell you:/ I told you about it because I wanted to ask your opinion PrinceofFrancia (talk) 09:25, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
I changed it because it will be a handful to put so many dates in an infobox, and I’ve seen other articles like that of robert curthose among others put just one birth date (in this case 1051) and then mention in the introduction he was born anywhere from 1051-1053. As a reader, it would look like quite a handful to put the infobox with 3 different birth dates.
As for the average, let me explain my way of thinking. Firstly, since it could be any of the 3 dates, we mention it at the introduction that he could be born from 1090-1100. However, if we are going to use only 1 date like the Robert curthose article, it would make most sense to use the average because if we use either 1090 or 1100 there’s the likelihood we are 10 years off, whereas 1095 would at maximum be 5 years off.
However, if you think it won’t be a handful adding 3 dates to the infobox, then we could discuss it on the talk page and see what other Editors think.
Cheers PrinceofFrancia (talk) 21:55, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
Possibly so. But like I said, while I have used my opinion on putting an average date, I justified it with actual citations. What more, I discussed in on the talk group and anyone can feel free to disagree with me. Besides, it’s not like I’m stating an opinion without evidence or explanation
Cheers PrinceofFrancia (talk) 10:27, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
Simply put, it’s not like I pulled a random date out of thin air but I used a median among 3 sources dates. PrinceofFrancia (talk) 11:24, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
But if you want to put in all 3 dates in the infobox by all means discuss it and do as you please PrinceofFrancia (talk) 11:25, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
Could you clarify your revert? The overwhelming majority of sources do indeed list al-Jazari as an Arab. The sheer quantity of materials that could be provided for his Arab background far exceed that of any other background, meaning the statement is valid. This (Observatory) pattern is used in numerous other articles. Nabataeus (talk) 01:30, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
Ought to tone your aggressive attitude down a notch. And I didn't know that my edits correspond with my Wikipedia dwelling. Quite interesting. I've been browsing Wikipedia for some years now, if that answers your concerns.
Al-Khalili specialize in many fields, he studied the history of Islam and authored multiple titles. His statement could be verified by other sources.
Ceccarelli is the Chairman of the Permanent Commission for the history of Machine and Mechanism of Science. He is held as an engineer historian. If you haven't noticed, al-Jazari is influential figure in the field of engineering.
His specialization is the history of science (astronomy is part of that field), The book is published by Cambridge. I would say quite reliable material. Not the ideal however.
Both of them are engineer historians, who are acquainted with the influential figures of their field (al-Jazari is one of them).
Although some of your other concerns for the reliability of sources are legitimate, the same criteria you applied to them, could be applied to other sources provided in the body of the article for his ethnicity.
The source that assert on his Kurdish background appears to be unreliable. The author specialize in the Social Science and history of South and West Asia between 17 and 20 centuries.
A web page of museum that lack any results? Really!
Unreliable.
Nabataeus (talk) 14:26, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
I believe it will take some time, if ever, before I receive responds. Only few scarce sources go against his Arab origin.
Reliable? I think not. Admittedly my caution for using qualified materials was high at the beginning, however I used few sources without examination from google books page. Which could be verified by reliable secondary sources.
Then per that, the source would be removed. Before I proceed in the matter, you didn't address the two unreliable sources (Museum pages) that support the Persian claim. Also Carl W. Hall appears to be the opposite of historian, his main fields are food science and technology (His most popular book (with other authors): Drying and Storage of Grains and Oilseeds. And authored an encyclopedia of food engineering). Far from being authoritative source.
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may i have a word with you online? like on either insta or twitter, just trying to explain my point, wouldn't take much of your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dovahkiiniq (talk • contribs) 01:03, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi, i saw that you corrected my erroneous edit of the article on the battle of Kars and i thank you for that. Just to inform you that the source that is used for the battle of Kars is also used for the article on the battle of Mosul. I had doubts about this source and i posted it on the talk page, but since i was not sure, i deleted my edit to check that more precisely. You seem to be well informed on this topic, have you found any mention of this so called "battle of Mosul" (1745) in a reliable source ? i checked "Encyclopedia Iranica" and the "Cambridge history of Iran" without success. Thank you in advance for your help. - Wikaviani (talk) 00:29, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
Kansas Bear, where is this editing war? Please post a link and try to be helpful on this public encyclopedia. And try not to assume everyone on here has ill intentions. Vandalism would be very clear, and please refrain from bias, because if you are contacting me you should be contacting others. LebaneseBebe (talk) 22:47, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
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I hope i do not bother you with my questions. Have you any information about a battle of Nisibis in 252 ? i found the article without a single source, i added a source for the outcome of the battle but when i think about it, it seems that my edit is OR because my source does not clearly states who took the city (Ardashir I or Shapur I). I have numerous sources stating that Ardashir took the city in 235 AD or 237 AD : [189], [190], but nothing clear about a battle between the Romans and the Sasanians at Nisibis in 252. I think the date of this battle is wrong, it's probably the battle of Nisibis won by the Persians in 235 or 237, if so, then the article should be renamed and the informations updated. Any idea ? Thanks.---Wikaviani (talk) 23:31, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Got blocked temporarily. I opened a SPI.---Wikaviani (talk) 01:49, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
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Would be useful if you like to expand Massagetae. Cheers! --Wario-Man (talk) 12:29, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
Please keep an aye on the Hunayn ibn Ishaq article. There is a user who is trying to push a POV and delete referenced material. Viaros17 (talk) 13:18, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
Yep, I am. Anyway, i know what small days, but if you look through a few sources you will see that Charles II has birth dates ranging from 1248-1254. Like with Geoffrey of Monmouth, it’s a range. 1253 is an average PrinceofFrancia (talk) 02:42, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
Or 1250 would be another average. Because 1248,1250,1253 and 1254 are all given PrinceofFrancia (talk) 02:44, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
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I respect your entry as being pointed out as being verbatim to the accounting as made in the referenced historical documentation of: (Marianne) Rumpf 1977, p. 182. However, I merely was intending to edit to the correct entry of the spelling for the benefit of the readers as it is actually: the church of Amsoldingen in Amsoldingen, Switzerland Nowhere have we been able to locate that it is spelled the same as you have pointed out, beyond the used/listed reference. Perhaps the editor and/or translator of Marianne Rumpf's works made an oversight and did not catch the author's/translator's mistake, I don't know. Thank you however for redirecting to your reference used. If you know of or find any sound references that do use the same spelling as Rumpf uses, could you please include for my benefit and correction. Thank you.
Asuthnfatboy (talk) 20:19, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
Thank you KansasBear for the update and added information. Your notes were found to be quite insightful. Asuthnfatboy (talk) 02:20, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
Don't post on my talk page again.
We want to rewrite the lead section. Would you please participate and comment here? Talk:Scythians#New_Iranica_article Thanks. --Wario-Man (talk) 06:03, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
During the period of Achaemenid rule in Miletus, which was the most important city of Ionia, there lived the eminent philosopher Anaximander and the geographer and historian Hecataeus. The famous mathematician Pythagoras was born and lived part of his life on the island of Samos, which was also subject to the Persians.
As far as I remember, Samos was incorporated into the empire in ~ 517 BC. According to the sources found at the GA-class article of Pythagoras, that would be after he left Samos. Do you perhaps know whether Samos was already subjected, perhaps in a different way (i.e. without military), by the Achaemenids before 530? Dandamayev is a reputable sources vis-a-vis Achaemenid/Ancient Greek history, hence my confusion. - LouisAragon (talk) 14:18, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
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Did you know it was EVEN part of the Roman Empire?! [199] - LouisAragon (talk) 19:41, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
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Sir excuse me I added references to article afghan Sikh war why u removed thatAma975193 (talk) 07:09, 2 June 2018 (UTC) Ama975193 (talk) 07:09, 2 June 2018
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Hi Kansas Bear, you posted a warning on user:Stongay's talk page just below my caution notification. If this warning was for the Genghis Khan article, it seems that user:Stongay was right, the source he tried to remove is completely unreliable (user:GreanMeanGo drew my attention on this point). It's your call of course to do so or not, but according to me, in this case, the warning should be removed from his talk page. take care. Best regards.---Wikaviani (talk) 19:17, 22 June 2018 (UTC).
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Hey Kansas,
This editor is unquestionably an edit warrior with a nationalist agenda. I'm suspecting that he's a sock of user:kingesh. kingesh shows some similarities in his editing behavior with the blocked sockpuppeteer user:Ehsan iq-Aṭlas (talk) 21:23, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi. Sorry for late reply. I read both old revision and your revision, compared them, and your revision is much much better. Old revision was almost based on a single source and primary stuff while your revision represents diverse sources and scholars' works. Old revision had some kind of biased tone while your revision is neutral. Good work and keep it up. --Wario-Man (talk) 07:12, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
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[202] - LouisAragon (talk) 23:02, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
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What's your opinion about this?[203] I have already replied to him.[204] --Wario-Man (talk) 07:47, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
No im not Limbozz
I just say that according to Rashid-al-Din Hamadani's Jami al tawarikh jalairs are not Darliqin Mongol
Darliqin Mongol(مغول درلکین) tribes according to Rashid-al-Din Hamadani's Jami' al-tawarikh are this tribe (From page 147 to 182)(The photo is taken from the original book of Juma Al-Tawariqh in persian language) : http://uupload.ir/files/6kjb_darlikin_mongols_147_-_182.png
Jalair tribe according to Rashid-al-Din Hamadani's Jami' al-tawarikh: (Jami' al-tawarikh page 65) http://uupload.ir/files/trl_jalair_65_-_73.png
Read the Jami' al-tawarikh before you judge me.
You wrote this to me:
similar relationships to the Ilkhanids: both families were descended from Mongol tribes (the Jalayirids and the Sulduz.." -- Kingship and Ideology in the Islamic and Mongol Worlds, Anne F. Broadbridge, Page 156. "The Jalayirids probably first appear in the mid-thirteenth century as one of the Mongol tribes making up Hulegu's army." -- The Persians, Gene R. Garthwaite, Page 154. "Arghun Aqa, a Mongol Administrator A Mongol from the Oirat tribe, Arghun Aqa was born c. 1210 and at an early age entered the service of the Jalayirid (Jalayir Mongol tribe) emir Qadan. -- Genghis Khan and Mongol Rule, George Lane, Page 101. "Jalayirids Mongol dynasty in Iraq (Mesopotamia), western Iran, and Azerbaijan 1336-1432, -- Islam: art and architecture, Markus Hattstein, Peter Delius, Page 615. "THE JALAYIRIDS The name Jalayir is derived from that of a large and important Mongol tribe." -- The Cambridge History of Iran: The Timurid and Safavid periods, William Bayne Fisher, page 5.
Yes، because They come with Mongols. In iran some times we call the Azerbaijani mongol. Tsakhur people of republic of azerbaijan call azerbaijani "mongol"
" History of Mongolia, Volume II, 2003" This is the source that you selected wrong because jalairs are not Darliqin Mongol. Louisol (talk) 18:36, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
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Why u remove my true text? Sasan Hero (talk) 00:27, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
Hi,Kansas Bear, my explanation part in my page not work ,one editor has locked it Sasan Hero (talk) 02:00, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
And also I can't add disscaution because it's locked Sasan Hero (talk) 02:05, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
I can writing English enough to communication with other editors ,and I am always useful for English wikipedia because always I adding reliable information ,and adding important information that not exist before ,so I think ,I should be continue editing because it's help wiki pages to improve ,and every time that I understand I can't help I stop editing forever ...thank you... Sasan Hero (talk) 05:01, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
I can write English enough to communicate with other editors.Right? ...Thanks... Sasan Hero (talk) 18:58, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
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Thanks, Wikaviani! --Kansas Bear (talk) 03:36, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
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Ehsan.iq's YouTube account, actively spreading the same crap he tried to spread on Wikipedia, now on YouTube comment sections.[205] - LouisAragon (talk) 16:50, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
I made some tweaks to this WP:POVFORK / WP:POV-loaded article.[212] Your thoughts? - LouisAragon (talk) 10:44, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
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(help)Hi Kansas Bear. By the way, I think User:LouisAragon pinged you [213] for comments on a proposal for a better map of the Achaemenid Empire. Would you have some time to spare to look into the matter? (Discussion here) पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 08:27, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
Hi! I noticed you've been reverting vandalism quite a bit, so I wanted to see if you knew about something called Twinkle. It is essentially a software on Wikipedia which users can use after they have had an account for 4 days and made 10 edits, that makes many forms of editing, notably reverting vandalism, much easier. This includes the ability to quickly tag articles, mark them for deletion, quickly rollback one's edits to a page, quickly warn users, report users to administrators, and much more. The details are outlined on the documentation page. To install Twinkle, go to your preferences, and navigate to the "Gadgets" tab. Under the "Browsing" section, check off the box to the left of the following sentence: "Twinkle: automate common tasks such as reporting vandalism, warning vandals, requesting deletion, welcoming users, and tagging articles (preferences)." Let me know if you have any questions about this, and thank you for your work with fighting vandalism!--SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 03:02, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
A new user has appeared and disagrees with all other editors. Your comment would be helpful as always: link to discussion --Wario-Man (talk) 14:09, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
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Thanks for copying that comment over to the Ayyubid dynasty talk page. I'm always loath to criticize other editors, because I really don't want to get into the kind of personalized argument that happened here. But when I see big chunks of sourced and relevant text disappearing, it's hard not to step in. I try to phrase criticism to focus on specific actions, not presumed motivations, but I know it can be easy to take things personally. Anyhow, it seems the initial defensiveness may have transformed into willingness to assist, so maybe all's well that ends well. Rupert Clayton (talk) 21:29, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
This new user and these stuff [214], [215], [216] --Wario-Man (talk) 17:37, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
These edits to Mihirakula,[217][218], Xionites,[219][220][221] tamgas,[222][223] Kujula Kadphises[224][225], etymology,[226][227][228][229] and Wusun[230][231] are also mysterious. Krakkos (talk) 18:19, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
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I just noticed this new article (Xerxes’s inscription). What about changing the title into "Inscription of Xerxes I at Van"? Your input would be much appreciated as always. - LouisAragon (talk) 21:33, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
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Hello Kansas Bear. As I asked here [1], why you did revert? Shahanshah5 (talk) 10:35, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
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You might wanna check this out.[244]-[245] Probably LTA Lagoo sab.[246]-[247] - LouisAragon (talk) 22:19, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
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Hi!
The reason I made my edit in the Urartu page (removing the supposed etymological Urartian names, as sourced from Enclopaedia Iranica) is because a) this information is provided previously on the Urartu page, so this is repeated information, almost verbatim and b) this information may not be (even according to other Enclopaedia Iranica pages) correct (i.e. many of these names are Iranian etymologically, such as Didarsis and Tigra, and some of them are either Iranian or Armenian, such as Araxa/Arakha).
Please see my contribution in the Urartu Talk page for more information:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urartu#/talk/3
Thank you so much for your time.
Preservedmoose (talk) 15:19, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for finding a source for the siege of Bidar in Mughal Empire. I noticed that you stayed with the earlier Wikipedia text of "In 1657, ...", but the source says the siege ended on 18 April 1656. Should Wikipedia say 1656, or is it a different calendar thing, or did Yazdani get that wrong, or what? --Worldbruce (talk) 02:28, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
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Compare this[248] with this[249] and this[250]-[251]-[252] I believe GP just admitted that he's Kavakdere. - LouisAragon (talk) 14:31, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for your message. I also added the references you requested.--Britannicus (talk) 23:46, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
Hello, I have seen your wanting. Please don't jump and start warning and fighting off. You are a foreigner and not related to the Arab world's history and do not understand it well. If you have read my comment in the talk page you would see that those "referenced informations" are biased and not correct and are propaganda. Your bias for a non existent "Kurds" is unacceptable and it is offensive to me. I am a descendant of Saladin, I am Ayybuid. And we are Arabs we are not kurds. I have my family tree and we have millions of history books that your western masters like to hide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:646:C400:149D:A14E:3FE4:C9A3:982D (talk) 06:55, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
Doug Weller talk 20:55, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
I want you to laugh more...Kes Immak Akho Gahba. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:646:C400:149D:ADC8:A44:84B9:9645 (talk) 06:29, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
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You should consider getting access to OUP.[254] Not only does it give access to Oxford Reference,[255] but also to Oxford Handbooks[256] and a plethora of other Oxford online databases. - LouisAragon (talk) 12:24, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
Hi,
Do you think that this book would be a reliable source to confirm that John, Count of Soissons died at the Battle of St. Quentin (1557)? :
Also, if not, why not? Futurist110 (talk) 18:07, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
Dirk Collier (source nr. 17) seems to be non-WP:RS as far as I can see. A lawyer and businessman.[257] Having said that, if I would look at this lede as a "newb" reader, I would probably think that about every single Mughal ruler (except for Babur and Humayun) had a Persian or Rajput mother. Yet according to List of the mothers of the Mughal Emperors, out of 17 Queen mothers, only 3 were Persian and 3 Rajput. All other Queen mothers seem to have belonged to other groups. The word "significant" (not covered by the sources) was also added by the same user. The dynasty was founded by a scion of the Timurids and was thus of Turco-Mongol origin. Later, long after the foundation of the empire, did the rulers have offspring by women belonging to other ethnic groups. In this regard, the Mughals are somewhat comparable to the Ottoman dynasty (i.e. Turkic by origin, significant intermarriage later on). Thoughts? - LouisAragon (talk) 23:44, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
Here [258]
When you're writing about medieval nobleman, it really helps to link every place and every significant person. Sometimes the forms of names are different, and sometimes (for for France) they're only in the frWP, but they can still be linked. Often for places, the article in the frWP will be much better or more specific , and it should be possible to figure hout how to link to it also. If Ican help you with any ofthis, let me know. DGG ( talk ) 05:12, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
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I removed this 2016 edit as it was added without reference and explanation. Though I was able to find numerous references for Armenian architectural influence on Seljuk architecture, and Armenian builders/architects working on Ottoman buildings, I couldn't find anything about Armenian architectural influence (i.e. design etc.) on Ottoman architecture. According to Adalian:
In the same way, Seljuk Turk architecture in Anatolia, in its formative period in the 12th century and after, was heavily influenced by Armenian architecture (...) Although this influence did not extend to the Ottoman era, which was much more influenced by the abundance of Byzantine architectural samples, Armenian builders, however, had even a greater effect on the appearance of Ottoman architecture. -- Adalian, Rouben Paul (2010). Historical Dictionary of Armenia. p. 93
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Hi, firstly, i hope you and yours are all doing well. You asked me to take a look at Siege of Singara (344) months ago, this is what i did today (Btw, soorry for the delay ...) since i had enough time, would you be so kind as to take a look at my changes please ? I have not finished to clean up the article yet, but i removed most of the outdated 19th century sources and tried to rewrite many parts of the article in a more neutral way (ex it was not a "decisive" Persian victory). Also, i think that the title of this article is irrelevant, it should be "Battle of Singara (344)", not "Siege of Singara (344)" since as far as i know, Shapur besieged Singara 3 times but never succeeded to take the city before 360. Thanks very much for your insght. Take care.---Wikaviani (talk) (contribs) 18:09, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
...I thought the source mentioned Fornovo as a phyrric victory. I was in good faith. Actually, there was debate even at the time regarding who actually won.
I just tried to add detail to the article. Again I thought it was in there from the book. It was my mistake but I did not do it on purpose.
Cheers.
Barjimoa (talk) 18:50, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Thank you Kansas Bear for the interesting reference from Joseph Pérez. You will note that it is not Prof. Pérez himself who says this, but he is quoting Joseph Del Olmo, who - as prof. Pérez notes, wrote in 1680. It seems that Del Olmo was as anachronistic as Pedro Berruguete. Modern scholarship sets the first auto-de-fé at 1242 in Paris and the inquisition was not established until 1231. If you can find a modern scholar who says that the inquisition was active in 1206 and that St. Dominic took part in it, I would be interested to know this - and of course the Wikipedia page on Auto da fé would need to be updated as well.Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Damascus road (talk • contribs) 05:11, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
Do you think that this would be a reliable source for the claim that Louise d'Artois died from typhus? : Brook-Shepherd, Gordon. (1991). The Last Empress – The Life and Times of Zita of Austria-Hungary 1893–1989. If Google Books is correct, this book likewise contains this information. I can't access this book itself, though. Thus, I don't know what its source for this information is. Futurist110 (talk) 22:54, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
I don't understand where I should post quotes from Viennot's book. I understand your doubts about defining Margaret of Valois a "living legend of her era", but on the nickname invented by Alexandre Dumas, it is enough to see the French page on the queen: this is a well-known information, in the public domain. Besides the book by Kathleen Wellman, have you read other books on the subject?
I apologize for the possible errors, English is not my native language. --Chevalier d'Éon (talk) 18:31, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
[263] - LouisAragon (talk) 22:31, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
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Got access to Brill Online for a day.[264] If you need any entry/entries, please don't hesitate to let me know. - LouisAragon (talk) 16:18, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
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Recently decided to reopen James R. Russell's Zoroastrianism in Armenia.[265] Other than it being an excellent work, I stumbled across some newer works dealing with the same matter, which I thought were pretty interesting as well. Some excerpts:
-- Albert de Jong (2015) "Armenian and Georgian Zoroastrianism" in The Wiley Blackwell Companion to Zoroastrianism; Michael Stausberg, Yuhan Sohrab-Dinshaw Vevaina; Anna Tessmann (ed). John Wiley And Sons Ltd. pp. 119-128[266]
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Hi. Can you review this?[277] 2nd sentence of his edit summary does not make any sense. Also this one [278] sounds odd/exaggerated too. --Wario-Man (talk) 11:27, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
Vol. 14, No. 2 (Apr., 1955), page 260-261.
I realise you were trying to be helpful but copying all of a source into the wiki verbatim is still a copyright violation. Please be more careful. Cabayi (talk) 08:12, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
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Hi, I tried to change the [Aghlabid] ‘sack of the Rome’. I haven’t seen this referred to as a ‘sack’, which would involved completely looting of a city. They didn’t make it past the Aurelian wall. ‘Partial sack’ is probably not good either, but why not keep it as ‘raid on Rome’? It is only called a raid even in the very same article it links to.
And on top of that the use of ‘the Rome’ is obviously faulty English. Harsimaja (talk) 18:11, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
So this other source used in the article on the actual attack actually discusses the term, and seems to agree with my understanding: http://ojs.tsv.fi/index.php/StOrE/article/viewFile/52272/16204
The use of the term ‘sack’ might be common and the book by Kreutz might use it, but it would be more accurate and less controversial to use the same term as in the other article: ‘raid’. The English still needs correcting either way.
And sure, there were far reaching consequences, but that isn’t what is in question.
I’ll change “sack of the Rome” to “raid on Rome”, based on this. Harsimaja (talk) 11:27, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
Fellow of the British Academy Sebastian Brock debunked your 'Nestorian' conspiracy theory in an academic journal: https://www.escholar.manchester.ac.uk/uk-ac-man-scw:1m2396 Ramsin93 (talk) 16:21, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
Hey Kansas Bear, (you know me prev. as Aṭlas)
All modern reliable secondary sources agrees unanimously on his Berber origin! why the article gives weight to primary sources at the expense of modern sources. Some examples of this modern sources: Luis Molina in the EI2 dscribed him as a "Berber commander" and stated that :"According to the opinion most widely held among chroniclers, Tarik b. Ziyad was a Berber client of Musa b. Nusayr [q.v.].....", Hugh Kennedy stated in Muslim Spain and Portugal: A Political History of al-Andalus that: "They were then described as mawla (pl. mawali) of so and so (Tariq b. Ziyad, the Berber governor of Tangier and probably a man of conciderable importance in his own community, for example, is described as mawla of Musa b. Nusayr...", Allen Fromherz in The Making of the Maghrib: 600–1060 CE: "Tariq ibn Ziyad was one of these Berber converts.", etc. Sorry for hijacking your talk page, but this article needs some serious work. Regards -TheseusHeLl (talk) 18:17, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
My edits are only the restoration of vandalized list of belligerents of Durrani Empire, and a more drawn elaboration of the role of Afghan prisoners revolting from within Maratha ranks, and basic formatting.
No edit was removed, only rephrased in proper order. 115.96.147.106 (talk) 06:28, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
Also I have a new user account as well, will respond from that when my Action throttle is lifted.
I have responded on your talk page, outlining exactly what you removed(references, referenced information, a url link from a reference) and the unreliable source you restored. --Kansas Bear (talk) 06:45, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
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"According to many scholars, it was the foremost colonial empire of the 16th and 17th centuries". What do you think? Barjimoa (talk) 07:08, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
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Saw your efforts on talk page of Mahmud of Ghazni. lots of work. Same for Sun Temple of Multan. My following edit has been reverted [280] and discussion has been closed now. nonetheless saw your hard work there. Kudos again. Saurabhbhardiya (talk) 10:32, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
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Hello Kansas Bear,
The 2 references that were there were saying: "Pashtun" Sikhs. Thats how you call them but they are not ethnic Pashtuns. See talk page and given references on that.
Casperti (talk) 19:34, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
What do you think about these removals and cn tags[281][282]? That article was poorly written, so his changes may be OK but if there are reliable stuff in those removed content, could you restore & rewrite them? --Wario-Man (talk) 08:21, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
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