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Hi Ronz, I don't have a lot of time to spend on Wikipedia, but I see you have accused me of vandalism, and I want to let you know that is certainly not the intent. I am a web designer and spend all day on the computer and I was having wrist pains, so I started to research carpal tunnel syndrome and solutions. I started on Wikipedia and then expanded from there. I happened across this desk-trainer.com site and did some of their exercises and it really helped a lot. Then I signed up and did more and my wrist pain went away. So, I thought I would like to share this and tried to write a company profile like I see so many other companies have on the Wikipedia site. If my tone and style was not that good, it was mainly because I am not associated with that company except as a fan, so I don't have all the background and stuff.
Now, they have a new site called carpaltunnelinformation.com which offers free exercises and I think this is WAY better than the Workrave software you guys list on the carpal tunnel syndrome information page on Wikipedia. I would like to add carpaltunnelinformation.com as a link or a reference or something because it is totally free and in my experience way better than Workrave on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpal_tunnel_syndrome, but I would imagine you will just flame me again.
I thought the idea of Wikipedia was the collective shared knowledge of the community, and I did do a little research besides my own experience - which is why I wrote the piece about the company. Then I found out that the exercises were created by this woman who has a really detailed site www.anatbanielmethod.com that explains the validity of the method - which is itself an outgrowth of the Feldenkrais Method which is also listed in Wikipedia. So, it certainly seems legit to me. I don't have forever to spend on this, but I thought I would make one more communication about it because it seems to me a lot of people could benefit from trying these free exercises, and I can't see any downside.
Am I missing something? Anyway, thanks for listening. VFRKen Chico, CA —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vfrken (talk • contribs) 10:09, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi Ronz, Hey, thanks for all the feedback. Believe it or not, I did spend a fair amount of time trying to read up on how to use the system before I posted anything, but as you well know, this is an amazingly complex set of rules and procedures to the newbie. If you have a chance to respond, I guess my question would be, is there no way to share this info that I found so helpful and valuable unless it is in some kind of research report? I keep seeing the link to the Workrave software on the Carpal tunnel syndrome page as an example... And it is a really basic little thing that maybe is of some help, but I have had a much better experience with these free exercises at that other site carpaltunnelinformation.com and I thought the idea was that if it was posted other people would be able to check it out and perhaps someone else would have more time to research it further and contribute to it. For example, I did do a bit more research on the desk-trainer.com site and it is based on the work of anatbanielmethod.com and her site is loaded with info, videos, testimonials from MD's, etc. So, I was hoping some of her practitioners would be able to flesh out the content on that desk-trainer page because I don't have the time or the knowledge to do all that. My idea was to try to start the dialog because I am actually an engineer by training - and skeptical by nature - but I did enough research to convince myself there was some real legit science behind these things. But, I also have to make a living which means I am unable to spend too much time trying to share something I thought was a good thing. So, that was a really long question... which condenses to... is there any "approved" way to share a resource like the free exercises page which I think has the potential to help a lot of folks? Thanks for your time.vfrken, chico, ca (talk) 20:50, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
AGF doesn't mean I ignore what someone has done. I'm tiring of your ignoring the facts, and focusing on me. Please drop it. You're bordering on harassing yourself, by repeating your arguments while ignoring mine. --Ronz (talk) 04:45, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Please question whether you're assuming bad faith on my part before responding further. Thanks. --Ronz (talk) 04:48, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! [1] I didn't accuse you of assuming bad faith, but asked you to think about it. I think you're trying to help, but are focusing on the individuals rather than on the actual discussions. --Ronz (talk) 05:38, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi -- I noticed that you removed my link to northxsouth.com from this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Outsourcing_Companies
And the reason you gave was "linkspam, not notable" ... can you explain to me what that means? Isn't that table a list of outsourcing companies and isn't what I added a legit outsourcing company? So why would it be removed?
Thank you for your attention, Ryan Bagueros
Addendum - I noticed that you took away a lot of my additions! And I really don't get it, why aren't these legitimate additions to wikipedia that I've made? I look forward to your response -- I'll be the first to admit that I am a total beginner with adding/editing to wikipedia but I use it a lot and I don't understand what's wrong with my contributions. Ryanbagueros (talk) 02:09, 2 January 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryanbagueros (talk • contribs) 02:00, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi Ronz,
I'm confused by two things. First, you indicated that you removed the company from the list because the list criteria includes having an article already on Wikipedia. However, that criteria wasn't there when I added the link. You added that criteria and then removed my link.
Second, there are a number of companies on that list that do not have an article already on Wikipedia, yet you didn't remove those.
I believe what I added is valid. Can you clear this up?
Addendum - I've gone through and read everything about what "LinkSpam" is on Wikipedia and I still believe the external link I added is valid. The page is a table of external links to outsourcing companies -- so it'll be difficult to maintain such a list without outward-bound links to commercial entities. I would like to add the link back in as I believe it meets the appropriate criteria. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryanbagueros (talk • contribs) 15:52, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, Ryan —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryanbagueros (talk • contribs) 15:37, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your feedback on my talk page, and for adding the linkfarm tag to White_Pages - didn't know that was available. I'm kinda inexperienced on Wikipedia. Question: you suggested "stubbing" the article to end the edit warring, which I'd like to do. Any good examples you'd recommend? Thanks --Plausible_deniability (talk) 05:46, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I am trying to help get the two of you to be able to work together since both of you work on some of the same articles, well at least [2]. I think both of you need to work this out or at least come to some sort of peace so that editing together along with the others is doable. I hope I haven't over stepped myself on this. Please understand though that all I am trying to do is find a way for peace between the two of you since I believe you both have the same objectives, making the article a good one and within Wikipedia policies. If you want me to step out of this, just let me know (either on my talk page or via email) and there will be no hard feeling or anything. I just remember how patient and helpful you have been towards me and so I am just trying to help. --CrohnieGalTalk 13:53, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
I've been enjoying some of your very brief (but effective) comments in contested areas. It would be good if I could learn from them. EdJohnston (talk) 19:03, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Hey, just wondering why you reverted the editor who added external links to several Gibson and Epiphone articles. The links are to the official product pages of the manufacturers. I would not consider that "spamming". I request that you revert yourself on those articles. --Spike Wilbury ♫ talk 20:19, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
As per Wikiquette guidelines, this alert. Pete St.John (talk) 18:01, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedian and Wikiproject member. The proposed Wikiproject: CCE (Commission for Collaborative Editing)[3] has received a request to review consensus and policy issues on coral calcium and talk:coral calcium. This notice is to inform you that coral calcium is now an active case for the CCE.
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As a side-note, the CCE would like to invite you to join our ranks, I have reviewed your edits and feel that you would be a good candidate to provide On-Call editor services for us. Thank you for your time. --BETA 20:16, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Why is Open Menu+ not notable? Brendenlong (talk) 20:15, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Oh, ok. Would it be possible to make an Open Menu+ article? Brendenlong (talk) 22:02, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
I am very calm and collected on things that I spoke of with Anthon and Antelan. I do have a couple of others backing me up right now. Here is what I posted; [4] and [5] plus this conversation.
I also find the following two threads on Anthon's page disturbing too. This one, [6] I was asked to go to this article and read it and catch up on the talk page because apparently there is a lot of controversy going on and my understanding is that there are quite a few trying to get other editors blocked or banned. I haven't gotten to it yet but I will. Then there is the next thread [7] I hope you see what I am talking about and that I am calm about all of this. I do not like the lack of WP:NPA and WP:AGF. Also go to my talk page and you will see a response from Antelan about my comments to her. I guess I am tired of all the bickering and the poking of a stick to try to provoke editors into misbehaving already. Avb retired too, did you know that? He got tired of it all too. I am trying to get a hold of him to see what happened. --CrohnieGalTalk 19:39, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
An article that you have been involved in editing, List of outsourcing companies, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of outsourcing companies. Thank you. User A1 (talk) 08:02, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi
I'm curious as to why you keep removing references to Picdar's Media Mogul DAM system from the Digital Asset Management page? The reason you give is that it is 'non-notable', however the only grounds I can see for that is that the system is not well known in the US. Given the international audience of the Wikipedia and Media Mogul's success outside of the that country, I feel its inclusion in the list of DAM systems is justified. As a fully fledged enterprise-scale DAM system, Media Mogul is certainly eligible to be on any page concerned with DAM, but as one of the few systems not originating from the US its presence adds balance to the entry.
If these are not sufficient grounds, can I suggest that the Digital Asset Management page either be re-edited to talk about DAM in the abstract with no providers cited (I would propose a separate page of DAM System Providers, where issues of who is, or isn't, a 'notable' provider of DAM software can be resolved) or that the citations be changed to segregate US providers from European providers such as Celum, Picdar, and Digital Solutions (also absent). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigmartyn (talk • contribs) 15:16, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Please explain to me why the link I posted is spam and the others legitimate. I have read all guidelines and find your decision arbitrary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.81.113.88 (talk) 17:16, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
I would prefer the article to be titled List of homeopathic remedies since the so-called "ingredients" are often not present. ScienceApologist (talk) 20:01, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
The SPA is back. Shot info (talk) 01:15, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I see you have removed the self-promotional ad for http://www.bosnian-pyramid.com/ I would not be surprised if the people behind this start editing this heavily. They have already complained about the page being biassed (they are died in the wool Believers). The main guy behind it is Nenad Djurdjevic who calls himself Hyperborean on his forum.
http://www.european-pyramids.net/wb/pages/about-us/co-researcher.php?lang=EN
I know both Colette Dowell and Irna, and I have to say I'm not convinced that it makes sense to ban Irna's blog and keep Colette's. Irna's blog has some really good valuable stuff on it. For instance: http://irna.lautre.net/A-correspondence-with-Dr-Barakat.html This is a discussion she has just had with the Egyptian geologist Dr Barakat and I really think it should have a mention on the Bosnian Pyramids page, but since you've already objected to a link to her site before I'm a bit hesitant. But it is solid stuff -- she sent me the correspondence a few days ago and there is information in it that I don't think has been presented on the web before at all. And she presents all of what Dr. Barakat has to say and he leans towards Osmanagic, so I don't think you could say it is completely biassed
Please let me know if I can put a link to her. Thanks Doug —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dougweller (talk • contribs) 09:55, 25 January 2008 (UTC) Dougweller (talk) 11:02, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Your main references are blogs, articles and sites of the people who are against the pyramid project (and you dont show their names) just a nicks, vert pathetic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.146.169.154 (talk • contribs) 23:28, 27 February 2008
Would you please take a look at this edit? It comes across to me as poorly sourced and blatantly POV (especially the edits in the subsection Kosovo after the war. I've already reverted once, but I'm trying to avoid an edit war and would appreciate another set of eyes. Thanks! Dchall1 (talk) 07:01, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Good morning/afternoon Ronz,
I recently linked to an an initative that I am heading up to educate members of the Web community and the general public regarding predictive analytics. I noticed that you and possibly one other that I'm not able to identify (possibly an alias) removed the lnk suggesting that its promotional in nature. I am writing to you beacuse I respectfully disagree. I've spent the last 10 years in education and this initative includes indpendent sooures, educational resoources of the highest caliber and is for non commercial purposes. If you can take a minute to share with me your thoughts I'd apprciate it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Billcullifer (talk • contribs) 08:19, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
For the encouragement. I decided to hold off on leaving, and kind and knowledgeable editors like you are a major reason why. cheers, Jim Butler(talk) 11:25, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi Ronz, I think you noticed that I have been trying to track retiring editors of late in my sandbox. [8] I just wanted to offer you to make any additions or changes in status to this if you are interested in doing so. If you do, just remember to sign it because the bot will get you. Apparently the way I have my sandbox set up, signatures are required. I find it most disturbing seeing so many leaving. I really am sad about Avb but not surprised to be honest, he was having problems with a few editors as I know you are aware of and he just got tired of it all. Anyways, I wanted to let you know you are more than welcomed to add your ideas and what you see if you are interested. I hope you are well. I will probably be going off line for awhile myself here, hopefully this week or next, we finally got approved on a place and will, woo hoo, be moving into our own place here soon. So, keep me updated if you would and you have time, I would appreciate it. I thank you for always being so patient and kind to me. --CrohnieGalTalk 15:07, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi Ronz,
After having edited the corporate branding site, I have noticed that you have taken down all my amendments. Could you help me find out what I'm doing wrong? - I'm only trying to contribute to the article.
(Majken Schultz) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.226.45.152 (talk) 22:46, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi Ronz, Thank you for the welcome messages, etc. I'd just like to say that I totally agree with you about neutral point of view. I'll do my best. Bristolian46 (talk) 18:43, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
No point in encouraging him. Nice to see them over trying to alter NPOV, but heck, Wiki is basically doomed - time to leave it for the POV-pushers. Shot info (talk) 23:50, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi there. Want to help me move Better Eyesight Magazine to a more neutral source? I've made a start. Famousdog (talk) 14:39, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
ScienceApologist has created this redirect to create the impression that the issue is prominence, and not undue weight. At Talk:Deadly nightshade and Talk:Rue, ScienceApologist uses redirects of his own making to change the sense of the Wikipedia policies and consensuses (sp?) to imply that the connections made to Homeopathy and/or related articles is not prominent. He has also stated that "plants are studied academically through the science of botany. This argument applies because it is about the plant and only uses of the plant that are prominent can be mentioned per WP:PROMINENCE." But his redirect goes to WP:UNDUE, which discusses presenting minority viewpoints in a way that puts them on an artificially equal plane as the more widely held view. It most certainly does not prohibit a mere mention of an associated term, even if that association is not scientific. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 02:55, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Ronz
Thank you for your comments regarding the Zf.
We have a person who continuously is trying to use the wikipedia by changing the entry to promote his marketing company. ZIFA.com and now EACOE.com
We have tried to put general interest links to related material and clean up the commercial material especially the non existent Zachman Institute for Framework Advancement which is the marketing division of Pinnacle Business Group Inc.
The January 28 changes are a direct reflection of this issue.
Removing External References with the replacement by Zachman Institute for Framework Advancement is not right.
Can you give me some ideas on how to neutralize this material ?
There are many authoriative references and citations of this material and we are trying to move that body of knowledge and references forward.
Stan Locke Managing Director Zachman Framework Associates —Preceding unsigned comment added by Metaframe (talk • contribs) 14:56, 31 January 2008 (UTC)