Please don't copy and paste copyrighted text and images into Wikipedia articles, as you did with Peć (the content clearly came from http://www.albanian.com/information/countries/kosova/peja/index.html ). We have to be very careful with copyrights. Please see Wikipedia:Copyrights for more information. -- ChrisO 00:27, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
Incidentally I am the writer of that page as I it was copied from a website I used to manage/own. So such talk of me having copied copyrighted material is not true. People at Albanian.com will tell you so if you ask them. In any case, I will not revert it back as I think you did a pretty good job in summarizing the history of the city. I still think there is room for improvement thought. May I ask you why you removed the picture? For your information, that picture is not copyrighted by that Albanian page either.
Changes made: “It also gained an Islamic character with the construction of a number of mosques, several of which still survive.” The word several will be changed to “many” as that is a more accurate description of the current situation.
“The 14th century Dečani Monastery, a UNESCO World Heritage Site, lies about 19 km south of Peć” has been changed to “The 14th century Dečani Monastery, a UNESCO World Heritage Site, lies about 19 km south of Peć in nearby Decani”. Your sentence leaves the impression that Decani Monastery is in Pec, which is clearly no the case. The Decani Monastery is in Decani, a different city, and there is no reason why that shouldn’t be mentioned.
Questions: I am actually thinking about removing any reference to the Decani Monastery completely as it has nothing to do with Pec. Give me a reason why I shouldn’t remove it?
Another question: You mention Serb institution by name, e.i Decani Monastery, by name even though they are not in the city, but you fail to mention any Albanian institutions, e.i the Bajrakli mosque and League of Peja etc, that are actually in the city and therefore more relevant to this page. Explanations please! Again, these are some of the reasons why there is room for improvement. I look forward to your answers and the dialogue.--Ferick 14:18, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
Pershendetje Ferick, se pari te uroj suksese ne studime ne Amerike. Gjithashtu te ftoj te na vizitiosh ne faqen Kosovo te na ndihmosh t'i kundervihemi dashakeqeve te shtetit tone. Ju pershendes, Ilir pz 22:56, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
You are welcome to contribute.
Best, Ilir pz 01:14, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. I am not sure what you mean by "why did you remove my comments to Rastavox"? I am lost.
No problem. I was talking about this [1]. But never mind. Good luck! Ilir pz 21:15, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Can you please discuss your contributions instead reverting for no particular reason? --Asterion talk to me 15:02, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
I do have a reason and it's clearly stated. I have contributed quite a bit a while back. Now I am more of a fact checker as everything that needs to be said has already been said.Ferick
No they are not."GOVERNMENT OF SERBIA (2003): Albanian Terrorism and Organised Crime in Kosovo-Metohija (White Book), pp 9-14"—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ferick (talk • contribs)
Why would I agree to leave Serb government propaganda links when there is no pro Albanian links? I don't get it! Ferick
Has the KLA got an official site? I can't see why there should not be some balance. Regards, --Asterion talk to me 15:45, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
KLA doesn't exist. You are not making any sense.Ferick 15:58, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
But it did. Therefore there should be some websites out there (of supporters). --Asterion talk to me 16:10, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
Supporters? the war is over, Asterion. Ilir pz 16:13, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert an article to a previous version more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you.
And you are?Ferick 14:18, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
Who said you article was balanced? You are making that assertion huh?Ferick 19:48, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
Hmmm, Interesting. There is a point of view that says Hitler was justified in killing Jews. Should that be treated equally as all other POV? I don't think so. Wikipedia is not about showing all POV. If that was the case we would have a minimum of 10 POV on every historical event, and Wikipedia would become a mess. Wikipedia is about showing all POV that are based on facts. No place for myths here…….Ferick 22:22, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
Ferick, ki kujdes me nderrimet ne artikullin e UCK-se. Eshte nje qe e mbikqyr tash me kujdes, e mundet me ta pamundesu editimin. Aresyetoj ndryshime tua, e do te jete me lehte te bindet ai. Vec i ka ndalu disa me heret qe nderrojshin pa arsyetime. tung, ilir_pz 22:42, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Reason: Unreliable Source.Ferick 22:47, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Une te kuptoj. Po flas per tjeret, sic te thashe, ja ky me poshte.ilir_pz 22:49, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Ferick,
You've repeatedly been deleting links to a Serbian government document on the Kosovo Liberation Army. Please don't do this. The document may well not be truthful, but it's a definitive statement of the Serbian POV. As such, it needs to be included in the article. Deleting references is, in general, a bad idea. Also, please don't mark changes like that as "minor" - they're not. -- ChrisO 22:48, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Yes, removing a line from a 3 page article is a minor edit. I guess I am going to have to translate something from KLA Veteran's Association and bring it here to balance the sources. Just giving you heads up that that will be a biased and inflammatory article. I expect that no one will challenge it.Ferick 22:55, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Pardon me for assuming common sense applies here("Removing a line and a reference is not a minor edit").Ferick 23:06, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Nothing against you, just stating the fact that common sense doesn't always apply in Wiki.Ferick 23:10, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
You are in danger of violating the three-revert rule on a page. Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from further editing. -- ChrisO 20:46, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
How about CCCC. How many edits has he done? I will continue to edit and remove false and malicious info despite your threat. I have my ways of getting around it if need be.Ferick 20:55, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi Ferick, I have removed the mention of "Commander of the Camp" but do not reinstate the wording "a prisoner guard", which is factually incorrect, as discussed in the article talk page. I would also like to remind you to behave in a civil way and respect verifiable sources. If your disrupting reverts continue, I will feel forced to request some kind of third-party intervention, maybe even a CheckUser procedure. I hope you understand my concerns. Regards, E Asterion u talking to me? 06:51, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
I don’t care too much about threats. All I care about is making the article factually correct. Perhaps a “prison guard commander” would resolve this dispute.Ferick 13:38, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Ok,I can live with that.Ferick 19:30, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm not removing the fact, which I'm quite satisfied belongs in the article. I'm cutting it from two mentions down to one. It belongs in the "Independence" section all right, but it shouldn't also be the fourth sentence of the article The Tom 04:33, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Please do not make personal attacks on other people. Wikipedia has a policy against personal attacks. In some cases, users who engage in personal attacks may be blocked from editing by admins or banned by the arbitration committee. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Please resolve disputes appropriately. Thank you. -- ChrisO 07:59, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
"Ferick, some people are determined to piss you off, that is life, but don't fall a victim to their provocations"
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Thanks Ferick, good sources you have found. Try to incorporate them in the text now, be that in parts of Kosovo or Kosovo war. It is very important to write the truth there. I will try to help when I find some time. Take care,ilir_pz 09:35, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi Ferick, I wanted to ask you something about your company. Care to drop me a line in iliripz(at)hotmail.com? Greetz, ilir_pz 14:08, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Ferick, there is now clearly a majority consensus over the form of the introduction. Please don't act against consensus again. Your preferred version is simply not appropriate or accurate, as discussed on the talk page. -- ChrisO 07:24, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Please stop. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's NPOV policy by adding commentary and your personal analysis into articles, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Furthermore, reinserting the same commentary multiple times may cause you to violate the three-revert rule, which can lead to a block. -- ChrisO 20:29, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Could you please read up (if you haven't already) WP:POV and WP:NPOV? --HolyRomanEmperor 16:03, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
No,thank you very much!Ferick 18:28, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, do i know you?Ferick 16:13, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
I have read the rules and I didn't know such a thing existed. As I've understood, you can report me only after I make an edit to the article in question after the warning, so you can't report me yet. --KOCOBO 05:33, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
I usually give people the benefit of the doubt, but somehow I don’t believe you. I just let a message w/administrator regarding your edits.Ferick 05:51, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
I know, and you broke the rules, you're supposed to report it here: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR. The fact that you don't believe me doesn't allow you to break the rules. For shame. --KOCOBO 05:56, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Stop this witchhunt, you know I'm not gonna get blocked because I didn't know the rules, you should've told me. So just leave me alone, and leave articles related to my country alone (including Vojvodina and Kosovo i Metohija). --KOCOBO 06:12, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't think we're getting anywhere here, particularly since you've openly rejected WP:NPOV and you're refusing to discuss sources. Accordingly, I've submitted a request for mediation. Please indicate on that page whether you consent to having the matter mediated. -- ChrisO 09:30, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
OK, you are accusing me of vandalism, yet you constantly remove any traces of Serbia in every Kosovo-related article? Come on, who are you kidding... I know you consider Kosova independent, I know you can't wait for that to be officially recognized, but adding Serbia and Kosovo as different countries in the Roma article, and similar acts of vandalism is not going to help Kosovo become independent. If you really want to help your people, stop living the good life in the USA, go share your wealth with the 50% of Kosovars who are unnimployed and are starving to death. You are not even a patriot, you are just ignorant. I will continue reverting your vandalism (the removal of the word "Serbia" in all Kosovo-related articles will not be tolerated) and you can report me to ANYONE you like, because I'm not the system, and the system will crush you, with or without me. --KOCOBO 04:24, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Please do not make personal attacks on other people. Wikipedia has a policy against personal attacks. In some cases, users who engage in personal attacks may be blocked from editing by admins or banned by the arbitration committee. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Please resolve disputes appropriately. Thank you. --digital_me(TalkˑContribs) 04:46, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
I appreciate your attempt to give some sense to this new user. However, I do disagree with you in calling the following a personal attack. The only reason I wrote this was that in another occasion (after which he got blocked) he told me to warn him before I invite admins, claiming he didn’t know the rules. In any case, there is nothing personal in this paragraph – I condemn his action not him (unlike him).
“You’re going to get yourself banned again, and this time for a long time. Have you realized that you have not engaged in any discussion page since you joined wiki, yet you have made numerous edits-which amounts to vandalism? I have checked all your edits so far, and the evidence is overwhelming to get you banned. Next time I will report directly to an administrator as it is impossible to reason with you. You broke the 3RR rule again in here[[4]] in addition to interrupting a process (vote) here [[5]]” Ferick 05:27, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
No Ferick, that was not my intention. I actually don't like the idea of inviting users of a certain group to participate in a vote just because you know they will vote one way or another not because of an informed analysis but due to their preconceptios. But KOSOBO already edited the page (by reverting you), and I told him that rather than continuing the edit war he should vote in the talk page and end the dead-lock at least temporarily. I admit though that even going that far might have been unethical, but I simply acted impulsively when I contacted him, it wasn't a fully rational decision on my part and I apologize for that.
In any case, I think the whole buisness about that page and the infobox has been a rather unnecessary issue. It is not as if Kosovo's independence depends on the ommission of the Serbia_topics infobox or vice versa. For my part, I can honestly say that I did not add the box because of political considerations but for practical reasons. I was looking at Demographic history of Vojvodina and then used the bar to go the Kosovo page out of curiosity. Once there I was going to go to another link of the infobox, but remarked that it was missing and I looked at the edit history and saw that Litany was adding it while you where removing it, so I put it back. I never thought such a trivial matter would reach great proportions. TSO1D 22:00, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
![]() | This is your last warning. If you continue to make personal attacks, you may be blocked for disruption. -- ChrisO 22:26, 10 July 2006 (UTC) |
Pardon me? Ferick 02:28, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
My name is Avdo. I wish to talk to you regarding the Kosovo article. I have seen your contributions and many comments, and would like to give you my honest advice. First of all, I would like to say that I consider myself a Yugoslav, but certainly respect my country of Serbia. Second of all, I would like you to know that my main goal for Kosovo is peace, and I don't care if Kosovo stays in Serbia, or if Kosovo becomes independent, or even if it becomes part of Albania. The status matters not to me, and I only care about the safety and freedom of all of the people of Kosovo. I know that it's hard for all Albanians to try to forgive and forget, I hearby apologize in the name of my country for any oppression and killings my country has caused to the Albanians in Kosovo. I am sorry. I know that it will take a long time for Albanians to forgive Serbia and the people who live in it, but fighting will not solve anything. Now, I see you are removing Serbia-related content from Kosovo-related articles. I know Albanians want Kosovo to become independent (and listen to me, IT WILL, EVERYONE IN SERBIA IS AWARE OF IT, trust me), but right now, it's still a part of Serbia. I have a deep respect for this encyclopedia, and since I have decided to help out, I want to stick to the facts, and not emotions. Don't worry, in no time, you'll have a Kosova passport, citizenship, this is obvious to everyone. But, for now, please try to understand that Kosovo is still officially a part of Serbia, no matter how much you resent that fact (and I know you have reasons to be hostile towards us). So, I would really appreciate it if you wouldn't constantly hide the word "Serbia" from Kosovo-related articles, not for me, not for Wikipedia, but for yourself, to show that you're mature enough to peacefully support your soon to be country's independence and not anger some people (especially Serbs) by making unneccessary edits. My friend, when Kosovo becomes independent, I will help you remove the "Serbia" related words from every Kosovo-related (Kosova-related) article, this I promise you. My sincerest regards, --GOD OF JUSTICE 05:38, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
I am not concerned about the future status of Kosovo either. No amount of writing by me or you or anybody else will change the future status of Kosovo. My goal here is to make every article reflect reality on the ground!Ferick 20:32, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
No, I didn’t misunderstand you at all. I understand exactly where you are going with this, but when all said and done there is only one reality. Just because there are diverging points of view, that doesn’t mean there many realities. Reality, whatever it is, should be represented in all these articles –nothing else. If your goal is to represent reality, you will not butt heads with me-that’s a guarantee! I am sure we will cross roads again, but in the meantime enjoy wiki.Ferick 02:38, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Dear Ferick,
I need your help. Could you please explain me why you think that source that I named for the information considering crimes of Skenderbeg division during WW2[6], isn’t reliably. Please note the bibliography used by the author of this article Carl Kosta Savich. If this is not enough, could you please inform me what kind of sources would you consider as reliably about this subject? I am addressing to you first because I don’t want to start one of the endless discussions. --Marko M 07:12, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
www.rastko.org.yu is not a reliable source.Bibliography used by the author has no bearing in whether the source is reliable or not. That's all.Ferick 20:32, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Well, I guess you could help out with this translation: Prof.DR.Jahja_Kokaj. Regards, E Asterion u talking to me? 19:40, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
I will try to do that, but I don't have time at the moment.Ferick 17:31, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
My ordeal has finally ended. I was blocked one week for “suspected of being a suck puppet” with no prove whatsoever by an administrator named RadioKirk [7], and finally unblocked with an apology [8], [9]. I had to go through so many hassles [[10]] to prove myself innocent. Thanks to all those who vouched for me, and especially User: Asterion. Everybody else who didn’t believe me (with no prove on their side): Hope you experience the same thing to get a taste of your own medicine. My advice is this: You can be blocked anytime with no warning and with no reason, but don’t give up. If you are innocent, truth is on your side!Ferick 17:31, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
That’s interesting. I do indeed live very close to the Plaza (about 10 min driving) and go there a couple of times a week to hang out with my friends. It’s the closest setting to a European city you can get here in the U.S. I am also aware of the fact that the whole architecture of the Plaza (not just the tower) is a very close replica of Seville. I have a lot of picture (lived right on the plaza for 4 years) that I can send to you. I also know the Lebanese American who owns half of the Plaza. It’s a great place. Let me know how I can send you pictures and help you further with this.Ferick 20:36, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
I sent them to your email.Post the links here if you decide to upload any of the pictures.Thanks Ferick 21:08, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
I may have come to a conclusion to soon. Here again:
Your user name or IP address has been blocked from editing. You were blocked by Kilo-Lima for the following reason (see our blocking policy): Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "Skanking". The reason given for Skanking's block is: "sockpuppet of User:SqueakBox".
Your IP address is 64.233.173.67. Ferick 00:59, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Ferick.
You've said "You are correct here User_talk:Ilir_pz#Albanian_-qi. Where did you encounter these names?".
Can you be more specific? You wanna know specifically why I've mentioned "Muriqi, Krasniqi" or something else? Kubura 08:27, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
No, I know these surnames from before. Muriqi were brothers, soccer players that played for Priština (Xhevat and Fadil Muriqi) in 1980's and 1990's. Later Xhevat played in Croatia, Fadil played in Spain. Krasniqi was also known surname, I can't remember where it was known. You know something about these persons?
Where does your interest for Kosovo comes from?
Greetings, Kubura 09:33, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Mirë se u ktheve Ferick. Unë nuk jam edhe aq aktiv por pashë se të kishin bllokuar para disa ditëve. Shumë u hidhrova pasiqë që ju jeni pothuajse i vetmi që po mundohet të jetë objektiv në lidhje me Kosovën.
Tung
They blocked me by mistake, but I am ok now.Ferick 21:45, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Ferick, just curious, are you the publisher of the blog Balkan Update listed in the pro-Albanian external links in the Kosovo article?Osli73 23:30, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Sure: Some of them include [12].[13],[14],[15], [16]...........
Funny that you investigate pro-Albanian links, but not pro-Serbia ones.Interesting......Ferick 22:18, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Please stop edit warring with Bormalagurski on Kosovo Liberation Army. Your POV deletions of cited content and blind reversions (including reverting spelling corrections!) is unacceptable. I will be taking your continued misconduct on a number of articles to an user-conduct RFC shortly. If necessary, I will take the matter to arbitration, with a view to obtaining a ban on your editing of Kosovo-related articles. I hope this won't be necessary and that you take the opportunity to correct your behaviour. -- ChrisO 21:53, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi Ferick, please calm down. Do not tease or get personal at Bormalagurski and/or call him a vandal. I am leaving the same message at his page. Thanks, E Asterion u talking to me? 21:49, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
"there is no moral equivalency here".Ferick 22:00, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
You are not a neutral mediator here. I have had a talk with another administrator about your conduct in Kosovo related pages (pushing your POV and then blocking pages, threatening users that do not agree with your POV and lying (and using those lies to make administrative decisions). We shall see what comes out of that. My conduct is indeed acceptable under wikipedia rules. Stop misleading people into thinking that you are a neutral observer when it comes to Kosovo pages when evidence shows the contrary.Ferick 22:26, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Following your latest bout of edit warring, I've posted a user-conduct RfC on you - see Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Ferick. -- ChrisO 01:30, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Dear Editor, since you have been involved in editing the Kosovo article in the last months, and that article has been the subject of long ongoing edit wars, your name is listed in the Request for Arbitration on this matter. You can make a statement here: Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Kosovo. Due to the large number of editors involved, however, I would to ask you to keep your statement concise and to the point. If you feel you have not been substantially involved in the disputes surrounding the Kosovo article, please do not remove your name from the Arbitration request, but rather make a short statement there explaining why you feel you have not been involved enough to be part it. To understand my reasons for requesting Arbitration, please read my statement on the Requests for Arbitration page. Best regards, Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 10:15, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Hello,
An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Kosovo. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Kosovo/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Kosovo/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, --Tony Sidaway 16:50, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
For the duration of this case, any of the named parties may be banned by an uninvolved administrator from Kosovo or related pages for disruptive edits.
You are receiving this message because you are one of those covered by this injunction.
For the arbitration committee. --Tony Sidaway 17:55, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
This case is now closed and the results have been published at the link above.
For edit warring, personal attacks, and other disruption, PerfectStorm/C-c-c-c is banned from editing Wikipedia for one year. For edit warring and incivility, Bormalagurski is banned from editing Wikipedia from one year. For edit warring and disruptive use of sockpuppets, Dardanv under any username or IP, is banned from editing Wikipedia for one month.
Hipi Zhdripi is limited to his one named account, Hipi Zhdripi. All edits by Hipi Zhdripi under another account or an IP address shall be treated as edits by a banned user.
Ilir pz, Hipi Zhdripi, Vezaso are banned for one year from editing articles related to Kosovo. Relation to Kosovo is to be interpreted broadly so as to prevent gaming. Either may be banned from any related non-article page for disruptive editing. All articles related to Kosovo are put on Article probation to allow more swift dealing with disruption. Editors of Kosovo and related articles who engage in edit warring, incivility, original research, or other disruptive editing, may be banned for an appropriate period of time, in extreme cases indefinitely.
ChrisO is warned not to engage in edit warring, and to engage in only calm discussion and dispute resolution when in conflict. He is instructed not to use the administrative rollback tool in content disputes and encouraged to develop the ability and practice of assisting users who are having trouble understanding and applying Wikipedia policies in doing so. .
Dardanv, Ferick, Laughing Man, Osli73, and Tonycdp are placed on Probation for one year. Each may be banned from any page or set of pages for disruptive edits, such as edit warring or incivility.
Ilir pz, Hipi Zhdripi, Vezaso, Dardanv, Ferick, Laughing Man, Osli73, and Tonycdp are placed on standard revert parole for one year. Each is limited to one revert per article per week, excepting obvious vandalism. Further, each is required to discuss any content reversions on the article's talk page.
For the Arbitration Committee. Arbitration Committee Clerk, 03:40, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Hello Ferick. I'm trying to upload an updated picture to the Ramush Haradinaj article but I can't get the damn thing working. I saw you did the original and thought maybe you could give me a hand? Davu.leon 16:37, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
yes thanks, it sorted itself out somehow. Davu.leon 16:46, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
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Hi. I noticed that you made an attempt to work on the introduction to the Albania article just now. You probably won't be surprised to discover that various people have been warring back and forth over whether Albania's northeastern neighbour ought to be identified as "Kosovo", "the disputed territory of Kosovo", "Serbia (the disputed territory of Kosovo)", or "Serbia" — and they each apparently won't accept any wording that goes against their particular position, even here in an article where the only intention is to make a passing reference in order to establish a geographical context for Albania. You might want to check the "Borders" section of the Albania article's talk page to see what I mean. I tried offering "the disputed territory of Kosovo" — along with relevant wikilinks and some references to news stories on both sides — as what I thought would be a compromise equally distasteful (!) to everyone, but it didn't work, and I don't think there's much point in my wasting any more of my time on this particular battle. If you would like to try your hand at brokering a compromise, or perhaps try to get the arbitration gurus involved, I wish you every success. Richwales (talk) 05:11, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I notice that, but we are only talking about physical location here. There is no room for interpretations.Ferick (talk)