Thanks. And yes, it's very annoying how some people here just revert correct info based on gut feeling or vague recollections - where are these "experts" when blatantly false info is left on pages unchallenged for years? That's not aimed at you btw - from what I've seen you check your sources and cite proper references, unlike most people. 94.14.53.148 (talk) 14:59, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
His edits to List of X-Men members are fanwank. They aren't in the handbook. (And I'm the guy you talked to above, and who brought up the Nemesis/Holocaust mix-up - floating IP, changes each time I log on). 86.137.6.122 (talk) 08:25, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
No problem on the fixing the vandalism. I'n fairly aware of who was and wasn't named in the student list in the handbook, and there's been no further students named since, so I knew those names were dodgy. With regards to using info from the handbooks, I think you are being entirely reasonable. It's Marvel's right to say who is and isn't considered an official X-Man, and they have set the criteria for membership and thus know who does and doesn't qualify. And I think the criteria used makes sense: initially Prof X was the one person who could make someone an X-Man - if he said "you are part of the team" then you were, regardless of whether the others liked it or how into the "dream" you were (c.f. Mimic, Changeling, Havok and Lorna Dane). Once Prof X started leaving the school to jaunt around space, the right to give membership passed on to Cyclops and/or other leaders of the group - so if they said you were, you were. Hence people like Gambit joining, without ever having been students or even met Xavier. No one argues them being members. Nobody seems to query Armor being a member, yet she joined in not disimilar circumstances to the "Street Team" X-Men, basically being in the wrong place at the right time and having the established X-Men present go "okay, welcome to the team." And on the basis of the "Cyclops can make anyone an X-Man if he wants them to be, because he's boss, and has thus been given that mandate" then if he wants to turn round and say that Utopia residents who help the X-Men on active missions are X-Men, then he's the one whose opinion counts.
As to infiltrators (like "Skrullverine") vs "traitors who joined without buying into the dream" (like Mystique or Sabretooth) - if I join the US military but intend to betray them to the Soviets, then I am still a legitimate member of the military, albeit not a very good one; if I join by disguising myself as someone else who is a member, then I am not. Same deal. Swordsman was considered an Avenger before he redeemed himself, even though his original term was while working for the Mandarin and planning to betray them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.141.63.12 (talk) 12:37, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
A bit of reasoning on why using the Marvel Handbook is generally avoided is because it is a separate encyclopedia (albeit published by Marvel) and using their information to cite information in another encyclopedia (Wikipedia) is a copyright issue. Information on Wikipedia should be derived and summarized from either source material (ex. someone in the comics says Character A is part of the X-Men team, or it's implied by the title's roster) or from reliable third-party sources (i.e. not Marvel). We can only go on the source material, not a separate encyclopedia. I got in a similar issue over images that were from the Official Hand Guide's character profiles and had to revert them because they aren't classified under free use. The information/summaries therein aren't either. Hope that helps. I've started a topic here at the Comic Project that you're more than welcome to join and also contribute to WikiProject Comics. Hope to see you there and I hope that explains things a little! Best!Luminum (talk) 02:42, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
"A bit of reasoning on why using the Marvel Handbook is generally avoided is because it is a separate encyclopedia (albeit published by Marvel) and using their information to cite information in another encyclopedia (Wikipedia) is a copyright issue." Not actually correct. So long as you are only referencing it, or quoting small excerpts with proper accreditation, then one reference text can cite another reference text without any copyright issues. So, in areas where there is ambiguity (like who is and isn't a member of the X-Men), Marvel's official word on the matter, as given in the handbooks, can be used and cited as evidence. Copying down the entire history of a character from a handbook would be a copyright breach; noting that character XXX is an X-Man, with a cite note that says XXX worked with the team in comic A in a way that suggested they may have become a member, with said membership status later confirmed in handbook B (or, conversely, handbook B confirmed they had not joined), is not a copyright breach. 86.136.85.97 (talk) 15:55, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
If you are going to erase characters from the template because they are not X-Men then you should erase the following:
Cypher: not an X-Man Karma: not an X-Man Magik: not an X-man Magma: not an X-man Mirage: not an X-Man Sunspot: not an X-Man Warlock: not an X-Man
These are all members of the New Mutants —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vaf2675 (talk • contribs) 17:52, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
The status, relatives, previous alliances have all been deleted from the Infobox. Brian Boru is awesome (talk) 13:52, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi. A disagreement has arisen over which of two photos would be better as the main Infobox image for the Ben Templesmith article. Can you participate in this discussion? Thanks, and Happy Holidays. :-) Nightscream (talk) 04:48, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
Sorry for changing all of the Weezer info, I am relatively new to Wikipedia editing and did it without any thought. My opinion on whether or not it is a studio album is unchanged however. It seems that every music source considers it to be a compilation album. I know Rivers Cuomo says it is logically Hurley's follow up but other band contributors (Karl Koch) have not described it as a studio album. The main point is that Wikipedia should be consistent with the other music databases in which Death to False Metal is a compilation album. NHLgoalie1 (talk) 9:20, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
No problem. Honestly I don't have a stake, but the X-Men is one of the pages I watch (as an a comic book guy from my youth) and I thought your last revert was well thought out and reasonable. I agree that I don't want to get into a revert war. I have one of my own on another page - very minor issue, but the person has put in the same info (of questionable intent) about 7X. So far, I'm the only one that cares and the editor doesn't respond to talk requests... After hearing so many awful things about Wikipedia (how basically its a free-for-all and nothing on any of the pages is correct), I'm trying to bring in at least a little sanity. Ckruschke (talk) 22:03, 6 March 2011 (UTC)Ckruschke
Can you request a dispute resolution on this, as I am not a registered member? Spidey104 is just ignoring requests to provide evidence for his claims the symbiotes have official names, and ignoring requests to discuss it. Every single discussion on the various symbiote pages has ended the same way: agreement that most of them have no official names. All the editors who say "No official name" go through the proper procedure - discuss change, then make it. But editor after editor who erroneously thinks they have official names just ignores the all the rules, say something like "I'm sure they do" (e.g. I think I saw it somewhere and am going on this and not hard evidence) and changes it back based on their inaccurate assumption. 90.219.225.168 (talk) 15:06, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
I apologize for asking, but can you offer your opinion on the latest round of the Ben Templesmith Photo Saga? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 00:32, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
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Hello, you may recognize me from some of the various X-Men articles. There has recently been a content dispute on a couple of them, and since you and I have worked together to discuss many of the various problems that have come up in the past, I wanted to come to see if you would help resolve this one as well. You can find the discussion that's been had so far on the List of X-Men members talk page in the Doop section. Thank you. 68.33.142.75 (talk) 17:48, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
You're right, he never was. I was running on no sleep when writing it; don't know what I was thinking. Thanks. JosephSpiral (talk) 15:50, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi, I was looking through the archived entries for the X-Men template talk page, and it seems you were a major contributor to the template. Would you like to give your input to the current state of the template? Namely, there are a few characters who no longer have their own wikipedia pages because other editors have deemed them not notable enough, and I have reservations about the inclusions or exclusions on that page. Wikipedia is all about notability, so I hope you can join into the discussion. Haleth (talk) 05:53, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
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Hi, I was just wondering why you reverted some of my edits on the page? Changeling has also gone by the name Morph so why did you revert that? Also Why did you get rid of the link to Warbirds page? I checked and made sure it lead you to the right Warbird page. And why did get rid of the Unreaveleds I added for secret identities?
Fluffyroll11 (talk) 12:36, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
Dude, can you take a look at the X-Men members page? I'm not canvassing you to "take a side". We just need more voices and input. One person seems to think that no one else can have collaboration and has basically commandeered the entire page unopposed, not taking anything to the talk page, and then cites "harassment". They leverage having logged tens of thousands of wikipedia edits for ownership of the article. Tomahawk1221 (talk) 03:22, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on a biased choice of users' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Thank you. TheHotwiki (talk) 22:24, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
I need your help on the list of X-Men members page!! Please..
HOTWIKI is a monster dictator and this page is now completely commandeered and rendered ruined! Nothing is taken to talk page and he makes sweeping deletions and everything is based on his opinion. I hope you see this and contribute! Tomahawk1221 (talk) 06:54, 19 April 2021 (UTC)