Sandbox 13
Title | Written | Posted | Deleted |
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David Irving | November 2017 | December 2017 | November 2020 |
Fast bomber
Originally conceived as an unarmed fast bomber.
.. specification P13/36 (1936) for fast bomber… (compare 1937 HP proposal) The idea of a small, fast bomber gained support at a much earlier stage than is s’times acknowledged,(ref
The new design would be faster than foreseeable enemy [[fighter aircraft, and could dispense with a defensive armament, which would slow it and make interception or losses to antiaircraft guns more likely. Instead, high speed and good manoeuvrability would make evading fighters and ground fire easier.(ref
.designed...as a so-called Schnellbomber ("fast bomber") that would be too fast for fighters of its era to intercept.. .and ...Dornier Do 17, int. 1934 speed 220mph, (350kph) .designed as a [[Schnellbomber ("fast bomber"), a light bomber which, in theory, would be so fast that it could outrun defending fighter aircraft.
..(designed as) a swift eight-passenger transport aircraft, capable of besting even the fastest of its contemporaries (but taken up bty govt as a bomber) .established 26 separate world records between 1937 and 1939, qualifying it for some time as the fastest medium bomber in the world.(ref .(in the Spanish Civil war) it normally operated without fighter escort, relying on its relatively high speed to evade interception.
...CANT Z.1007 ‘Alcione’ int. 1937 speed 285mph (458kph) . Not ‘fast bomber’, described as medium bomber only. But speed is comparable
….with speed, altitude and manoeuvrability that allowed them to evade interception by (enemy fighters)
.order to develop a "high-speed bomber" capable of 300mph/480kph...It was inspired by the Soviet Tupolev SB .
Table: Fast bombers (30s)
Name | Country | first flight | Introduced | speed (mph) | Speed (kph) |
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Tupolev SB | USSR | - | 1934 | 280 | 450 |
Blenheim | UK | - | 1935 | 266 | 428 |
P13/36 | UK | - | 1936 | - | - |
Ju 88 | Ger | - | 1936 | 290 | 470 |
Do 17 | Ger | - | 1934 | 220 | 350 |
SM 79 | Italy | - | 290 | 450 | |
CANT Z 1007 | It | - | 1937 | 285 | 458 |
Bloch MB 170 | France | - | 1940 | 330 | 530 |
Kawa Ki 48 | Japan | - | 1940 | 314 | 505 |
Contemporary fighters (30s)
Name | Country | first flight | Introduced | speed (mph) | Speed (kph) |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Hawker Hart | UK | 1928 | 1930 | 185 | 298 |
Hawker Hind | UK | 1934 | 1935 | 185 | 298 |
Gloster Gladiator | UK | 1934 | 1937 | 253 | 407 |
Fiat CR32 | Italy | 1933 | 1933 | 220 | 360 |
Fiat CR 42 | Italy | 1938 | 1939 | 274 | 441 |
Heinkel He 51 | Ger | 1933 | 1934 | 210 | 330 |
Polikarpov I-15 | USSR | 1933 | - | 228 | 367 |
Pol I-153 | USSR | 1937 | 1939 | 276 | 444 |
Fast bombers (40s): Mosquito Me 262 Arado 235 (Okha: more of a guided missile/stand-off bomb)
Contemporary fighters (40s): Spitfire Mustang Tempest Meteor Me 109 Fw 190 Me 262
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The Amerikabombers: some comparisons (from Sandbox 15; ?fix error
Aircraft (date of introduction, numbers) | Details (range ml/km) |
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Heinkel 277 (no prototype) | range (main)= 3,728 mi, up to 11,100 km/6,900 mi in Amerikabomber role |
Junkers 390 (2, Oct 43) | range= 8000km/ 4970mi combat range= 9704km/ 6030mi (reconnaissance mission) cr.= 9254 km/ 5750mi with 1930kg/ 4255lb bomb load (bomber mission) |
Me 264 (3, dec 42) | range= 15000km / 9300mi |
FW Ta400 (no prototype) | range= 9000km / 5600mi. |
... | ... |
B-17 (12,731, july 35) | range 3219km/ 2000mi; |
B-29 (3970, Sept 42) | range 5239km / 3290mi (ferry range =9000km/5600mi |
B-36 (384, Aug 46) | range 6413km/3985mi (ferry range 16.000km/10,000mi |
Distances (b)
how far between at freemaptools.com
See List of aircraft of Japan during World War II
Older revision (3 October 2013) of page, with images (for ease of recognition)
Images removed 26 Sept 2015; per WP:AVLIST
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Table (example, from [[List of aircraft of Japan during World War II | ..
Aircraft | First flown |
Number built |
Image |
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Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-1 | 1940 | 100 | ![]() |
[[List of NATO reporting names for Soviet Navy warships
.Cruisers (Sverdlov 1948 14 units) Kynda 1960 4 units) Kresta I 1964 4 units) Kresta II 1966 10 units) Kara 1968 7 units) Slava 1976 3 units) Lider 2016 -
.Destroyers Skorry 1949 70 units) Neustramny 1950 1 unit) Kotlin 1955 27 units) Kildin 1950 4 units) Krupny 1957 8 units) Kanin (? = Krupny) Kashin 1959 25 units) Sovremny 1976 21 units) Udaloy 1977 13 units) Lider 2016 -
.Frigates (Storozhoi Korabi : escort ship) Kola 1950 8 units) SK Riga 1950 68 units) SK Petya 1950 54 Mirka 1960s 18 units) SK Koni 1975-88 14 units) (replace Riga) Burevstnik (Krivak) 1970 40(+8) (“) Gepard 1991 6 units) (replace Koni, Grisha, Parchim). Neustramny 1986 2 units) Novik 2016 1 unit) Adm Grigorovich (Krivak IV) 3 units) Adm Gorshkov 2006 3 units)
.Corvettes (Maly Protivo Ladochy Korabi Poti 1960 9 units) MPK Pauk 1977 45 units) Parchim 1985 28 units) Nanuchka 1969 47 units) Tarantul 1970s Bora (hovercraft) Mukha Buyan 2004 13 units) Steregushchy 2001 12 units) (vigilant) Gremagushchy 2011 2 units) (thunderous) Karakurt 2015 8 units)
.minesweepers MT 1943 92 units) T43 1950s 178 units) (Fugas 1930s) T58 1950s 24/45 units) Yurka 1963 52 units) Natya 1970s 45 units) Gorya 1980s 2 units) (Alexandrit : minehunter) Sasha 1954 37 units) Vanya 1960 47 units) Zhenya 1966 3 units) Sonya 1971 72 units) Yevgenya 1967 92 units) Alexandrit 2011 3 units)
auxiliaries SO 1 Kronstadt 1950s 227 units) (submarine chaser) Poti 1960 … (corvette) Komar 1950s 112 units) (missile boat) Osa 1960s 400+ units) Tarantul Shershen 1960s 123 units) TKA (torpedo cutter) Stenka Turya 1972 51 units) Zhuk 1969 300+ units) (harbour patrol) Matka 1977 12 units) (hydrofoil/missile boat) Muravey 1983 16 units) (hf patrol boat) Sarancha 1973 1 unit) (hf missile boat) Svetlyak 1987 44 units) (border patrol boat) Rubin 2007 30 units) ( “ )
Other
Moskva 1982 2 units) Orel/Kiev 1970 - Kuznetsov 1982 3 units) Ulyanovsk 1988 -
Kronstadt 1939 - Stalingrad 1941 - Kirov 1974 4 units)
Abbr.
Storozhoi Korabi:SK : escort ship
Bolshoi Protivo Ladochy Korabi:BPK:LargeA/Sship
Maly Protivo Ladochy Korabi:MPK: Small A/S ship
TKA torpedo cutter
Ref no. | Name | Tonnage | Builder | Owner | Dimensions | Port | Engine/Machinery |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
84988 | Tonan Maru | 9866 | 1906 Denny |
Nippon Suisen KK | 460.4 60.2 31.2 |
Tokyo | TVE 6cyl 943 NHP Denny |
84989 | - ex-Yeikoku Maru |
4370 | 1921 Osaka Iron Works |
Dairen Kisen KK | 345 49.8 25.8 |
Dairen | TVE 3 cyl 390 NHP Osaka |
84990 | Tonan Maru 2 | 19425 | 1937 Osaka Iron Works |
Nippon Suisen KK | 534.8 74.0 56.8 |
Tokyo | TVE 6cyl Osaka |
84991 | Tonan Maru 3 | 19210 | 1938 Osaka Iron Works |
Nippon Suisen KK | 534.8 74.0 56.8 |
Tokyo | TVE 6cyl Osaka |