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The text of the article for the hamlet of Malmsmead, which straddles the Devon/Somerset border, has just been updated (principally by Rodw) to reflect its cross-border nature. I'm now attempting to update the infobox in line with this. I've used the x and x1 syntax to deal with the two civil parishes, two shire districts, two shire counties and two ceremonial counties involved. But the template is now automatically saying that the hamlet is in the Devon and Cornwall police area, which is only half correct as the Somerset side is in Avon and Somerset.
The parameter description says:
So can any of these "esoteric" extras be used to correct the auto-generation of police data, or manually over-ride it?. -- chris_j_wood (talk) 12:54, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
|shire_county3=
, |lieutenancy_england3=
and |shire_district3=
, for the second split of the place, and set |region1=
which will give 2 entries for each of the services. Keith D (talk) 18:35, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
| civil_parish = [[Brendon and Countisbury]]
| civil_parish1 = [[Oare, Somerset|Oare]]
| shire_district = [[North Devon]]
| shire_district1 = [[West Somerset]]
| shire_county = [[Devon]]
| shire_county1 = [[Somerset]]
|lieutenancy_england=
params also |hide_services=
so that the police, etc. are displayed for the larger portion. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:28, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
|shire_district1=
and |shire_county1=
Keith D (talk) 21:32, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
|map_type=
but it appears not to apply to England. Keith D (talk) 00:53, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
#f6e1b9
instead of the #fefee9
used for Devon. --Redrose64 (talk) 12:51, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
|region1=
. Both Devon and Somerset are in South West England; I tried setting both |region=
and |region1=
to that value and it did nothing useful. So I guess you meant set them to different values, but what values?. -- chris_j_wood (talk) 12:47, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
|region1=
is needed to get the second set of services to show, it can be set to the same as |region=
. The only down side is you get 2 entries under Region and EU Parliament, may be a tweak to the code could avoid this.|shire_district= [[North Devon]]
|shire_district3= [[West Somerset]]
|lieutenancy_england= [[Devon]]
|lieutenancy_england3= [[Somerset]]
|shire_county= [[Devon]]
|shire_county3= [[Somerset]]
|region= South West England
|region1= South West England
|hide_services=
|shire_district3=
etc.? What is wrong with |shire_district1=
etc. ? Also, why do you need the |lieutenancy_england=
parameters at all? These are only used when the |shire_county=
parameters are not used, such as in unitary authorities or Metropolitan boroughs. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:48, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
|shire_district3=
etc. is the way to get the second services entry to display. The |lieutenancy england=
entries are only needed if you want the Ceremonial county to show in the infobox. Keith D (talk) 18:55, 18 February 2016 (UTC)|shire_district3=
etc. instead of |shire_district1=
does something different, but I can confirm that it does. The infobox now correctly shows both police areas. Not entirely happy about the downside of the repetition of Region and EU Parliament, but it does all work. I'll just write it down to magic. Thanks for your help. -- chris_j_wood (talk) 13:41, 19 February 2016 (UTC)Would it be worth adding some kind of settlement flag parameter --likely just an extra "static_image"-- to this template? Where we would want to display both the arms and the flag. There's a few (smallish) places with registered flags where using Template:Infobox settlement wouldn't be warranted. --Inops (talk) 01:27, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
the London Borough title links to Districts of England, rather than London boroughs. Is there a reason for this? If not, can someone show me how to fix it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newystats (talk • contribs) 00:37, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
This allows "nomap" or "UK", but other options are only available for places in Scotland. It would also be useful for areas in a city, as in Clarawood or Finaghy it would be better than showing the whole of Northern Ireland - in the documentation, it mentions Greater Belfast as the only other option, not Scotland, so this may have been added to the template in the wrong place. As "map_type" would only be used if a particular map is wanted, could it just use the map specified by this parameter, only using the default for the area if left empty or unused? Peter James (talk) 18:33, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
It was removed in 2007 apparently (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Infobox_UK_place&diff=142816870&oldid=142794324) - Scotland was added for Highland - but as mentioned recently in the discussion of cross-border places it would be better if this could be used for the whole of the UK. Peter James (talk) 17:03, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
How do I add Avon Fire and Rescue Service and Avon and Somerset Constabulary to the infobox for the Unitary Authority South Gloucestershire? The documentation doesn't seem to tell me. Is it supposed to be picked up from some other data source? PamD 18:57, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
((infobox UK place))
, and the essential parameters are: | country = England
| region = South West England
| lieutenancy_england = [[Gloucestershire]]
| unitary_england = [[South Gloucestershire]]
| shire_county = [[Gloucestershire]]
| shire_district = [[South Gloucestershire]]
((Infobox UK place/local))
--Redrose64 (talk) 20:32, 12 May 2016 (UTC)Infobox UK place/Archive 17 |
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It would surely be a good idea to have the option of adding the historic counties to the template. This would show a places context historically. England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales all had counties far back into the past and many of the boundaries have since changed and therefore are different from the Shire county they are currently in. Lookesmiley (talk) 16:34, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
The historic counties do not reffer to the previous administrations that a place may have had but instead is specifically talking about the ancient divisions used for all purposes. These began to differ from the administrative council areas in 1888. I am talking about the historic counties as they were previous to this. There are full atricles about this for each country are linked in the original message. __Looke__ (talk) 09:37, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
I'm currently in the process of creating more detailed maps for Ireland. I've uploaded a location map for County Down to the right, in the same style as existing maps for GB.
I will upload the other 5 counties in near future, unless someone indicates a different breakdown of Northern Ireland is preferable.
Please get the back-end of the template ready to accept the maps.--Nilfanion (talk) 13:05, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
Is there already a way to put electoral wards in the infobox that I can't see? If not not how do I go about adding, or suggest to an admin about adding it to the the infobox. Other systems that cover much or all of the UK like civil parishes, and post code districts, among other things, are included in what can be shown in the infobox, but I have never seen wards included. Wards are often similar size to post codes areas and parishes, some a bit bigger some a bit smaller, wards have an official boundary and official existence, and some have their own article too. I would really like the option to add this to UK place articles infoboxes, I don't think it excessive, it's exactly the kind of information I would expect to find in an infobox, and would fit nicely with the things already included in it. There is a possible issue of some places existing over boundaries in more than one ward, but that issue is already present as some places already cross other boundaries like district and postcode anyway, and it's not really caused big problems with those, it just means more than one has to be listed. Parishes do not exist in all the country, such as in most of Greater London among other places, I believe electoral wards cover the whole country, it would be especially useful to areas that don't use parishes, to allow wards to be listed instead, although I see no problem listing both where the are used. Carlwev 19:25, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
Hello, an IP editor just posted a concern about the infobox values for "police" and "fire" in Stockton-on-Tees at the help desk (see this diff for more details). It would be great, if someone knowledgeable could look into this question, and double-check the infobox settings. GermanJoe (talk) 18:54, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
The administrative divisions are listed upside down compared to Template:Infobox Settlement and other infoboxes. Would be better if they were the same, with largest to smallest going from top down; which also makes more sense I think. Rob984 (talk) 11:30, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
Two points: (1) I have removed the civil parish parameter – I think consensus is that it isn't really appropriate to use it for non-English locations, given that only in England are they presently used for any level of local government, and because the infobox automatically links to the article on English CPs; and (2) we probably shouldn't be using Aberdeen for our example, given that as per the WP:UKGEO guidelines, the Aberdeen article doesn't even use this type of infobox! Jellyman (talk) 17:42, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
Hello all. I am in the process of converting this template to use Template:Infobox. This is obviously a VERY complex template. I must also admit that as an american there are many aspects of this template that don't make complete sense to me. I am try my very best to not change any functionality of the template. Once the conversion is 100% complete there shouldn't be any noticeable difference in how the template is displayed. That being said, it is not only possible but probable that I will make some mistakes. I would LOVE some help checking my work. At this point I am a little more than halfway there. The testcases look pretty good and should def help but any additional assistance looking things over would be great. Once the conversion is "done" in my eyes, I will post here again and ask for a peer review before updating the base template. Thanks in advance! --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:19, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
|region=
is missing from the example there. Good work! Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:06, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
(({region="region"))}
. --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 21:08, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
•
, here we are using just •
, in ((infobox country)) I used <div style="text-indent:-0.9em;margin-left:1.2em;font-weight:normal;">• ...</div>
which allows for the labels to wrap and still be indented away from the bullet. I don't have a strong opinion on which method is used, so long as they are all the same within the infobox. Frietjes (talk) 21:52, 10 January 2017 (UTC)The parameter |manx_shedding=
appears to be incorrectly named as the description for this is Sheading. Keith D (talk) 22:44, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
The template documentation needs updating for |population_density=
which refers to ((pop density mi2 to km2)) and ((pop density km2 to mi2)) both of which have been deleted. May be we should be using ((pop density)) or ((convert)) or is there a better one knowing the density rather than the area? Keith D (talk) 22:47, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
population_density – will be calculated automatically if area and population are present. What would you suggest that we change that explanation to?
|population_density=
parameter which is a couple of lines below that which you quoted which is against the |population=
parameter. Keith D (talk) 13:07, 6 February 2017 (UTC)I have started clearing out the errors which Category:Pages using infobox UK place with unknown parameters is showing. It is showing a few hundred places from Wales. A quick look suggests that they all include |english_name. The only permitted parameters are |official_name, |welsh_name, and |local_name. I have raised this with JJMC89 who says I need consent for him to run a BOT.
|english_name=
doesn't do anything currently, it would be considered a cosmetic edit. WP:AWBRULES #4 prevents the use of AWB and WP:COSMETICBOT applies, so consensus for removal would be needed. Usually a discussion for this would occur on the template's talk page with discussion notifications being placed at the relevant WikiProjects. — JJMC89 19:30, 12 February 2017 (UTC)How do I go about this? Twiceuponatime (talk) 10:25, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Could I suggest that the documentation should point out that whole miles, rather than decimal fractions of miles, is the appropriate level of precision for distances from capitals?
An editor (@Springchickensoup:) is adding distances from London and Edinburgh to infoboxes in many Scottish location articles, such as Cairndow being "382.33 miles" from London. I'm sure this is an inappropriate level of precision, but can't find chapter and verse anywhere to cite. Any thoughts? PamD 11:41, 19 February 2017 (UTC)