The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 02:02, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

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• ... that radical SAM enzymes incorporate 5-aminoimidazole ribotide into the vitamins thiamine and cobalamin? Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4753784/
  • Comment: Author has 4 previous DYK, no need for QPQ
  • Comment: > 5x expanded between 1-11 Feb 2022 from this stub last edited April 2021

5x expanded by Michael D. Turnbull (talk). Self-nominated at 12:17, 11 February 2022 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting: - The hook is rather opaque and dull to the average reader. I would suggest that you refer to the molecule as "AIR" and say something about what can be made out of it. I'm sure you can think of something suitably punny to make an interesting hook. If you mention the vitamins, I would suggest calling them vitamin B1 and B12. I don't think that the mention of radical SAM enzymes adds anything to the general audience's appreciation of the hook, but that could perhaps be remedied by making some kind of play on words.

QPQ: None required.

Overall: More than fivefold expanded from this ~300-character version that existed on 7 February to this >3000-character version from 11 February. All sources are, as far as I can tell, reliable. Earwig reveals no copyvio. Spotchecking sources reveals no obvious issues. The article doesn't appear to have any disqualifying issues, though I can't entirely rule out having missed something on account of this all being rather technical. At any rate, I'm willing to WP:AGF. A better hook and this is good to go. TompaDompa (talk) 19:58, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

• • ALT1: ... that AIR is incorporated into vitamin B₁ and vitamin B₁₂ by radical SAM enzymes?

Shorter hook suggestion taking account of TompaDompa's comment, at the expense of having more acronyms. I wanted to refer to "radical SAM" as, apart from being interesting to a scientists that such things exist, this is hooky as it looks like a political statement about a person Sam. Other variants welcome. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:18, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

• I don't know if that's any more "hooky". If you want to make a pun on "radical SAM" sounding like a person, you're undermining it by including the word "enzymes" after. I was thinking something more along the lines of ... that RNA, DNA, and vitamins B₁ and B₁₂ are all made from AIR? I would personally be significantly more likely to click on a hook like that. TompaDompa (talk) 18:57, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
  • ALT2: ... that RNA, DNA, and vitamins B₁ and B₁₂ are all made from AIR? Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4753784/ and https://doi.org/10.1016/S0969-2126(00)80029-5]

OK, that's a perfectly good suggestion, thanks. Mike Turnbull (talk) 08:28, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

• ALT2 ready. TompaDompa (talk) 15:25, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

ALT2 to T:DYK/P1