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Well, right or wrong, we have a problem: the list is growing alarmingly, with no sign of sources; and the text part of the article is also accreting uncited examples and claims, including of travel blogs with no support and direct primary links embedded in the text. In short it's becoming a mess. I think we will have to split off the list so it sinks or swims on its own merits. It might be worth splitting it further by century, so at least the older centuries might escape deletion, as sources should not be hard to find. The more outrageous claims in the article can be marked Citation Needed, while uncited bloglists should just be removed. Shall we go for it? Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:32, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
I Totally agree with that. By the way, What's the particular purpose of citation in a list? Each item is supposed to link to an article, which in turn it's supported by its own references Engranaje (talk) 03:15, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
I'll make my own point clear with an example. I don't see any references here nor there. So would you say they are crappy lists? In my opinion a list is just a list, it just lists. If any plants, or painters by name beginning with "A" or books or authors that don't belong to the genre of travel literature appear in any of those, they will have to be removed. As simple as that. Engranaje (talk) 04:16, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
Would you mind showing me a list that fulfils those requirements? Engranaje (talk) 22:48, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
Fine. I'll see what I can do. Engranaje (talk) 23:30, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
Re comment on image -- this was my somewhat desperate attempt to brighten the article, as the two existing images were so dull. The diagram should be deleted and the Cévennes view is purely decoration and expendable. Rwood128 (talk) 23:27, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
But was it perhaps the Goethe image? That seems relevant. Rwood128 (talk) 23:52, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Re the query as to why Nature writing is included, see that article for an explanation -- though I was just copying from Outdoor literature in the edit. Perhaps it should be removed? Rwood128 (talk) 19:36, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
BTW 'travelogue' is often used to mean 'travel journal', the definition in the article may be WP:OR or WP:POV and suspect! Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:14, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
But I don't understand the point about travelogue, though the word isn't in my vocabulary (American usage?). The definition is from a reputable dictionary and I've now checked other dictionaries, which have more or less the same, though some omit books. I found no reference to travel journals, but these are older dictionaries.
On another point, why not include travel journal in the opening sentence, which includes a series of sub-genres? Rwood128 (talk) 21:42, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
I'm still trying to understand. Are you saying that "travel journals, diaries and direct records of a traveler's experiences" are not normally literature? I read the article's title as including all 'travel writing'.
The two different usages I take to be:
I presume that the article should not include, films, documentaries, and lectures -- travelogues. I note that travelogue is used to mean travel writing, despite what dictionaries say. If, what I surmise is correct, I'll try revising the preamble. Rwood128 (talk) 23:04, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
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I do not know why the List of travel books was returned to this page. It is very long and therefore needs a separate page. Rwood128 (talk) 14:00, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
No idea how to do this, but it seems to me that there is a French language page that is either equivalent or very closely related, here: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A9cit_de_voyage, the title of which is more like "Travel Writing". Tried to link to that page, but it asked me to merge, at which point I gave up. Someone may want to look into it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.36.70.65 (talk) 17:09, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
Gilgamesh collects the knowledge of the author's time in a decipherable journey and, similar to that of Odysseus, he is disguised with various themes. It is not a fantastic or unreal journey, let's say. In Rampa's Story we discover that:
First chapter
The jagged tops of the rocky Himalayas loomed deep in the vivid purple of the Tibetan twilight sky. The setting sun sank behind the massive mountain range, casting brilliant, iridescent colors on the vast foam of snow that perpetually blows from the highest peaks. The atmosphere was crystal clear, invigorating, and offered almost unlimited visibility. At first glance, the landscape was completely devoid of life. Nothing moved in it, nothing stirred, save the long line of snow that rose above their heads. Apparently nothing could live in those barren mountains. It would seem that there had been no life there since the beginning of time. Only when you know it, when you have been shown it over and over again, can you perceive, with difficulty, the faint indications that human beings live there. Only habit can guide our steps in this wild and forbidden place. Then only the entrance, wrapped in shadows, of a deep and gloomy cave is visible; a cave that is but the vestibule of a myriad tunnels and chambers that make this austere range of mountains a honeycomb. 62.83.203.95 (talk) 06:31, 28 April 2023 (UTC) 62.83.203.95 (talk) 06:34, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
Gilgamesh collects the knowledge of the author's time in a decipherable journey and, similar to that of Odysseus, he is disguised with various themes. It is not a fantastic or unreal journey, let's say. In Rampa's Story we discover that: First chapter The jagged tops of the rocky Himalayas loomed deep in the vivid purple of the Tibetan twilight sky. The setting sun sank behind the massive mountain range, casting brilliant, iridescent colors on the vast foam of snow that perpetually blows from the highest peaks. The atmosphere was crystal clear, invigorating, and offered almost unlimited visibility. At first glance, the landscape was completely devoid of life. Nothing moved in it, nothing stirred, save the long line of snow that rose above their heads. Apparently nothing could live in those barren mountains. It would seem that there had been no life there since the beginning of time. Only when you know it, when you have been shown it over and over again, can you perceive, with difficulty, the faint indications that human beings live there. Only habit can guide our steps in this wild and forbidden place. Then only the entrance, wrapped in shadows, of a deep and gloomy cave is visible; a cave that is but the vestibule of a myriad tunnels and chambers that make this austere range of mountains a honeycomb.FJ19 (talk) 06:39, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
Thus, following from Everest to Shanghai -or Kantō region: Leaving Mount Fuji- and ending in San Francisco Bay, USA, it is a route that would have been very famous if it had been discovered very early.151.182.56.53 (talk) 13:20, 28 April 2023 (UTC)