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I'm going[[ to change the mention of Amir's redemption and Hassan's betrayal in the lead as I think it's too much of a spoiler. --MarkBuckles 09:02, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Also the fact that he killed his mother during child birth has a very large effect on the story and has alot to do with his guilt this should propably be added in there somewhere. Urahozerpwns
If people are looking up books in Wikipedia before they have read them, they are EXPECTING spoilers.
I'm not sure that's true. I came just to see what people are talking about. Is there any reason why there isn't a spoiler alert? Tb3 19:39, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
I think that the importance of Wikipedia is that we provide the public with information on a subject that someone might be curious about. If they want to know what happens in the novel, they should expect to find it here. So, I believe that if they don't want to know, they should ignore the sections about plot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cas461 (talk • contribs) 18:03, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
Spoiler: how do we reconcile the description of Hassan? Hassan is not the son of Amir's father's servant, he]] is Hassan's father's son, or his own half brother. No use lying, is there?
You are wrong the book does point out that they are half brothers. Sooo... your dumb! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.167.193.30 (talk) 04:22, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Yeah how you like me now Shoehorn!!!!! OH, and sorry i didn't see the no personal attacks thing so my bad. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.167.193.30 (talk) 04:26, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
I think that maybe this section could be added onto a little more, perhaps listing a few programs that are using the book. I can tell you right now that UT Arlington is using it in a program for all incoming freshmen so they have one thing in common, and it's used in English classes. Dragonfire 20:54, September 4, 2006
I just copy-edited the plot summary (fixing up the English and moving some things around so it was more coherent). MlleDiderot 22:49, 16 September 2006 (UTC)MlleDiderot
There is no mention of this in the article, so I want to ask. Lightblade 22:06, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Is the Assef character not in the film? And when he isn't; why is he let out? Randalph P. Williams 10:15, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Isnt it convenient that Mr. Hosseini, forgets to mention the post-2001 warth of the US raining down bombs on the Afghanis? Well, inconvenient truths are to be forgotten, or we dont make the NYT best seller lists do we?
-Indian-kid.
Maybe it's just a money grab (don't want to piss off your audience with the cold hard truth) or maybe it's more politcal. Propaganda. If anyone has any sources, we can add something.
-G
Irrelevant nonsequitur from indiankid 71.176.227.46 (talk) 05:07, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
I recently read the book, however, I would like to know what languages the main characters, and others characters that speak different languages (there are quite few). The movie is in Persian, I've heard, and I think the Pashtun people speak their own language, but I'm not sure what languages Amir, Hassan and the rest of the people in that town speak, other than English after some move to America. Can anyone clear this up? Is it perhaps purposely ambiguous? In the book, it mentioned 'Farsi', which I suppose is another name for Persian, so is that about it? 65.189.170.90 04:19, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
I should disagree with Behnam and above him. The movie is not in Persian and they (Amir, Hassan) do not speak Farsi (Persian). They speak Dari which is quite different in accent, grammar,... although they have the same roots. Me as a Farsi speaker hardly understand 80% of it. Notice that some of players are Iranian and they try to speak Dari with their own accent! Pashtuns speak pashto which I do not understand at all! Rezaghp (talk) 07:37, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
The language in the movie is Dari (stemming from the king dariush) it is the afghan dialect of Persian which in iran is farsi (parsi), thus the probably loose, use of Dari and Farsi interchangeably. Many people who are literate in either dialect can understand the other. e.g for me persian is a second language so I struggle to understand farsi freely, but for my parents, who are literate in it, can understand both dialects perfectly. It must also be noted that the dari spoken by the main actor (adult amir) is how a non-native dari speaker would speak, in that it is not clear or accurate in its pronunciation. Besides Dari there are many other languages in afghanistan as it is a multi-ethnic country. One other language used in the book is pashtu, which is also spoken by many afghans. Avista (talk) 01:01, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
To emphasis what was said above, the language that is represented in the movie is Dari, which is a Persian language and is closly related to Farsi, which is spoken in Iran. Despite a very close relation, Dari and Farsi have been officially recognized as seperate languages by the Afghan, Iranian, and American governments, among others. So the intended representation is of Dari, but since not all of the actors are native Dari speakers, the actual dialog isn't perfect. Rodwa4 (talk) 18:56, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
The_Kite_Runner_(film)#Plot refers for the plot to The_Kite_Runner#Plot, so I edited the latter based on the film. If necessary we can copy the plot to the film article so that we can edit both independently.--Patrick (talk) 12:15, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
I copied the plot to the film article and adapted it there.--Patrick (talk) 11:41, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunately the link to Baba's orphanage does not work. Does anyone know the good one? Blue cave (talk) 17:33, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Removing relevant and accurate information from an article is rarely a good idea, and I am entirely unconvinced by any argument that "plot spoilers" should be removed from an encyclopedic article. Perhaps--perhaps--if this were the only available source of information, then an argument might be made, but removing plot information from this article will not prevent cheating or thwart those determined to read about the book before actually reading the book. There are endless numbers of sites with this information, and removing it from the Wikipedia article merely hurts the article without helping anyone. I would like to restore that info the article, but I've already reverted those deletions twice in the past few days. Other opinions/options?--ShelfSkewed Talk 15:14, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Islamic Jihadists, al-Qaeda, the Taliban etc. absolutely do NOT tolerate homosexual behaviour. The penalty can be death. Flogging is the usual penalty for adultry. In the most egregious cases, the woman is shot in the head and the man is beheaded. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TimeDog (talk • contribs) 16:22, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
That is complete and absolute nonsense! Your link isn't a documentary. It's something someone made on their personal computer. Th U.S. "Psyops" also widely publicized forged poems which they themselves had written and attributed to Khomeini during the Iranian hostage crisis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.54.218.179 (talk) 07:57, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
There is truth in both of your comments, the above mentioned organizations very strongly comdemn homosexual behavior publicly, but like anywhere else there is hypocrisy, and therefore homosexuality is practiced to some extent in these organizations. Rodwa4 (talk) 18:02, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
And besides, the book is a work of fiction, remember? Hosseini decided to have a Taliban character who was also a homosexual rapist and child-abuser, and we chose to document the character, as a good, complete encyclopaedia should. James.Denholm®Talk to me... 11:55, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
And furthermore, pedophilia is the reality in Afghanistan (and they don't count that to homosexuality), see here Afghanistan's dirty little secret - August 29, 2010; also added this in the article under criticisms --Tcheh (talk) 20:30, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
This article is not a reaction to the book, it is merely a summary of the book. Your reaction is not neutral and does not fit with the Wikipedia guidelines.NinoBarbati (talk) 15:49, 24 February 2021 (UTC)Nino for class
Please note 'Baba' is not the father's actual name. 'Baba' means father. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.43.185.36 (talk) 23:17, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Maybe my eyes are lying to me, but I certainly see two topics about "Characters". Can somebody delete it? Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarteto (talk • contribs) 20:13, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
I think a link to cognitive dissonance should be added as that it is THE main theme that runs through the entire book. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.186.195.16 (talk) 04:53, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
The article only notes that his mother is german and he is of mixed origin despite the book explicitly describes his white skin, blonde hair, and blue eyes. I don't know why the author made the only white kid in the book the evilest most psychotic homosexual child-rapist, but I think the article should make note of it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.231.211.103 (talk) 21:22, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
I think the article shouldnt note this, this is probably no coincidence, but either of no importance or with anything racist in mind, or just allusion to him liking hitler and to the similarities between National Socialism and the Taliban-style islamofascism. --Tcheh (talk) 20:33, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
No, it should be mentioned. It is no coincidence and it is intentional. I find it extremely racist and it's just the author's way of putting the blame of the Taliban on the West. How mature. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.10.46.8 (talk) 11:30, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
There seem to be nothing but praises as to its literary quality; the only criticism is of its politics. It cannot possibly be unanimous that it was a good book. Shouldn't a complete view of its reception be included? For instance, there is nothing to hint that it has been called predictable, which it almost certainly has; if I still had my copy, I could fetch a quote that completely telegraphed the outcome of the climax. --Daniel Draco (talk) 06:22, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
I was reading through the article and noticed that the themes section had a clear bias. The section is:
The Kite Runner is a story with all the grand "themes of literature and life". It is a "vivid and engaging story that reminds us how long Khaled Hosseini's people have been struggling to triumph over the forces of violence". It is about "friendship and betrayal" and the arbitrary "price of loyalty". Themes of "love, honor, guilt, fear and redemption" are all included in this "extraordinary novel".[16][17]
This section is written like a review more than anything else. I think that at the least, it should be re-written to comply with the guidelines. Anyone else agree with me? John Collier (talk) 02:43, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
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Overall, the lead exhibits great characteristics of a Wikipedia article.It includes an introductory sentence that pout's the Kite Runner in the topic of the first book written by Khaled Hoesseini. However, the lead could be improved on several bases. The lead does not include any description of the main section of the article. While it does allude to the themes of the book in the second paragraph, it does not make a direct link to either the elements of the plot or introduces the character's properly. Additionally, the first paragraph is the only time in the article that specifically alludes to the backdrop of the story such as the fall of Afghanistan's monarchy. For the most part, the lead is concise but could use the improvements previously mentioned to give a more general overview of the book. Raf3279 (talk) 13:05, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Hi! After reviewing the article, I think the following changes could be made to improve its quality:
The lead is well written and discusses, in brief, most of the sections presented in the article. I think it would benefit from adding a brief sentence at the end explaining that the book drew controversy and was banned in many schools. Amycazares (talk) 16:50, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
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While the article is neutral and comprehensive, I believe including more content on how the novel was received in Afghanistan and by the government would make a great addition under the section Critical reception.--Coco156 (talk) 20:41, 30 September 2021 (UTC)