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The Best Damn Tour 2008 was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 22 May 2009 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into The Best Damn Thing. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
I've cited all the tracks, please be sure to give links if you're going to add any more. It's a hassle to clean it up. Also, a note should be added that it is in fact a paparazzi picture that has been put up, I'll try and get that fixed. Britishenglish 21:47, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Can we add that Avril has been sued for plagiarism by Tommy Dunbar because Girlfriend sounds exactly like His bands song I want To Be Your Boyfriend? TaylorLTD 21:03, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
This section in the main article currently includes the following information about a Paris Hilton song: On July 10, the song "I Don't Have to Try" sparked further plagiarism speculation, after Perez Hilton and Rolling Stone noted similarities between it and Peaches's 2003 song "I'm the Kinda".[11]
While this sentence about Ms. Hilton's song is true, I am wondering what the connection is to Lavigne. This is not a page about current plagarism allegations in popular music. It is about the album "The Best Damn Thing." Should the sentence about "I Don't Have To Try" be removed? GRSUS 07:51, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
No, as I don't know where you got Paris Hilton from. Perez Hilton is a celebrity gossip blogger. "I Don't Have to Try" is on this album. Donkay ote 18:26, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Once again, reinstating since people can't comprehend English.Donkay ote (talk) 16:36, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
This is clearly a biased article. I'm really starting to lose my faith in Wikipedia. The article states that Lavigne was "exonerated" but settled out of court. Settling out of court is not an exoneration, and is usually a sign of guilt.
Also, the article says Chantel Kreviazuk retracted her claims of plagiarism. I can find no article on the internet that says that, and the source cited is an article where Kreviazuk repeats her accusation. Not to mention, this should be in a Controversy section on Lavigne's main page. Clearly this is an attempt to keep a Controversy section out of her article.
You guys should be ashamed of yourself. You should know better than to edit an article for a performer you like and respect. It's unprofessional, and gives us articles like this, which are so biased they're not even worth reading.
Get it together. Christ. Maynard (talk) 22:44, 15 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.231.94.63 (talk)
The track listing has been removed from the article, was the one which was there was unconfirmed? or it had been confirmed via her Myspace account? Well, if it was confirmed from her official Myspace account, taht must be true.. or at least we put tuhe unconfirmed temporary track listing here? before the official one is confirmed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 61.247.53.106 (talk) 19:36, 7 January 2007 (UTC).
That isn't her new album cover.That is a paparazzi shot of her when she was shooting photos for her new album (most likely for the linear notes). Johnpedia 09:57, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Added new song from rolling stone article, see article at: http://popoutblog.blogspot.com and that is NOT her album cover. 24.69.67.173 03:13, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
She is definitely not doing "anything" that can be related to punk rock or pop punk. Please stop changing the genre.
A pop-punk influence does not make her pop punk. She sounds nothing like Screeching Weasel, Descendents, or Lagwagon, which are REAL pop punk bands. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SumwhatDecent (talk • contribs) 18:01, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Is this really noteworthy? It's not like she hasn't cursed on an album before, plus I don't believe one F-bomb is enough to get the sticker on some labels. The Strokes, also on RCA, managed to drop two of them on Barely Legal, but its album Is This It didn't get the explicit stamp. I suppose given the era of all-ages pop-rock Avril's career originated amidst and the cultural connotations with that label, it would be noteworthy. But only if this disc gets the label.
And for the record, the censoring wasn't really appropriate. If an album says fuck, its page shouldn't be so shy. DackAttac 06:15, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
The first two cites in the article, from MTV News, don't confirm either the title or the release date, yet they are in a position in the article where one would expect them to confirm those things. It's misleading. Cites should correspond to the actual information they're backing up. Everyking 09:10, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
A new version in the Album?Yeah, right....Xr 1 21:27, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
There's a new version of it on the leaked version. Sounds pretty good. Joe D 07:44, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Well the version I've heard is the same as in the Eragorn Soundtrack (and as in the single) and it's from the album.Xr 1 07:52, 9 April 2007 (UTC) "Originally, a different version was to be included, but the original version made it instead." Well ok.I thought I was so unlucky...The original sounds amazing :] Xr 1 19:45, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
If you ask me, I think that whoever added the singles section should make it smaller because it's way too big. If no one changes it, I will. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Musictomyears (talk • contribs) 14:08, 13 April 2007 (UTC).
I formatted the page a little bit. Now it's not like a timeline anymore. Plus I added stuff to the album description (the first paragraph). I took most of that from the Avril Lavigne Wikipedia page. I know that the album made its radio debut on on Hot 89.9 at 6 pm on April 14. Maybe someone can find a website to site it from because that information isn't on the internet yet. Avril and Deryck 4ever! 20:54, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
When you say Standard you mean 'I will never Find the {Only Good}Bad version so instead I have to listend to Shhhh, Hey, Mother____ crap'. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.108.4.72 (talk) 02:15, 18 April 2007 (UTC).
You need a lot more citations for the Sales/Shipments section. The Taiwan G-Music Charts only show the percent of the chart that the album has sold, so it makes me curious how you know it has sold/shipped 20,000 already. X2RADialbomber 01:12, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
wait what? May 5th?
Each chart is dated with the "week-ending" date of the following Saturday.
Example:
Monday, January 1 – sales tracking-week begins Wednesday, January 3 — airplay tracking-week begins Sunday, January 7 – sales tracking-week ends Tuesday, January 9 – airplay tracking-week ends Thursday, January 11 – new chart released, with issue date of Saturday, January 20.
― LADY GALAXY ★彡 Refill/lol 02:00, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Can we add that the album is dumb and she lost most of her old fanbase because the album is weak and horribly written? TaylorLTD 23:22, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
add this album (the best damn thing) to the categorie of "pop-punk album" (Gabo 084 22:45, 23 July 2007 (UTC)).
yes we should
If i am not mistaken, didnt josh freese drum on this album? Where is this pages personal section?
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BetacommandBot (talk) 06:28, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
The following singles have been released so far.
special single: "Keep Holding On" (Eragon Soundtrack)
"Girlfriend" , "When You're Gone", "Hot"
Here now my critics:
"I Can Do Better" ... In a vote the 2nd most believe it as next single. I think it would be to risky since Avril Lavigne said she recorded the song when she was drunk,but it is one of here favoutires. It's not so catchy IMHO but still rock.
"Runaway" ...Most belive it as up comming single. I don't think so because it wouldn't have a surprise effect on release, as it's already in the ng under of the billboard charts. It's more pop than rock, not so catchy at all and a bit boring IMO.
"The Best Damn Thing" ... Well it's got the same tintle like the album and has charted in the billboard bubbling under and so not unknown anymore. But it is very catchy I find. As it's boy bashing it's more natural avril style than songs like e.g. Hot,Contagious. It does rock, but I'm not sure if it's most powerfull than the other remained songs.
"Everything Back but You"... This song has a good mix between Avril's natural elements like "boy-bashing", and reminds a bit on the punky touch. And the slang words. I dont't find the best choice(not the most powerful) but avril may choose it.
"Innocence" - Here I agree with that what other think: "If this song comes up as new single, people may say she releases always power ballades". But this doesn't say I dont' like the song. It's may just not be so good choice marketing technical. Also it has been been played in some North American radio stations already and the rumours about an italian single relase and it's also been in bubbling under charts. It's just maybe to well known.
"I Don't Have to Try" - This song I find is most powerfull of the remaining songs,(when we take the standard album). It's also a bit heavy metal I would say. And the bonus that is not known so much.
"One of Those Girls" -I personally do like the text of the song. But objective I don't think it's superior minded to the others.
"Contagious" ..I believe the song is to short to make a video. And it's it's not so special.
"Keep Holding On" ..Why should the song be re-released. Marketing technical a crazy idea.
"Alone" - This song was the B-Side of Girlfriend. But it's very very catchy, super music maybe even better than Girlfriend.When I think about this song I had good ideas for a video. If it wasn't alredy a B-Side it would have been marketing technical an interesting idea to release this song now and then afterwars release the album again with the song "Alone" know added. It is on the "Limited Edition" I know but one can't get this album everywhere.
"I Will Be" Maybe good idea, but may have the same effect like Innocence/Keep holding on that she releases to much ballades.
Conclusion
According to AvrilBandaids most find Runaway best choice for 4th Single.
So subjective I'd find really the best song to release could be Alone because it's catchy also boy bashing..
So if I let the stupid fact away and stay objective and think about what's possible I would say to release I Don't Have to Try is the best way. The punkish fans would like it and it's powerfull and boy bashing too IMO.
So I think she may choose Everything Back but you (has punk edge and is on a DVD performed (Live). I also think she maybe doesn't release a 4th Single but that would be a to easy solution and Avril is rather a bit "Complicated" so that doesn't fit together *g*. N00bh4ck3r (talk)--
Obviously the single's gonna be the title song "The Best damn thing". --N00bh4ck3r (talk) 21:39, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
"Keep Holding on" sounds alot like Chemical Romance's song "Welcome to the Black Parade". The beginning instrumental parts and sound of the song sound the absolute same! Some one even proves this with a video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymUhCCxDPVk&NR=1) So should that be added?
Why was it merged into the album? It doesn't match anything tour related on Wikipedia at ALL!!! 209.89.227.122 (talk) 00:53, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
hey, i looked through the article today and somehow i dont like that those two sections are seperated from each other.. what about moving them together? i thought about the following: 1. remove all the text that is written about the singles; 2. moving the chart table to "charts performance and sales" and 3. update the chart table properly with the REAL peak numbers would shorten the article a lot in my opinion, what do you think? Darth NormaN (talk) 14:21, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
please STOP ADDING THE TOUR DATES! its against WP:NOT#DIRECTORY, WP:OR and WP:NN. The article also gets way too long and all information about the dates and setlist are referenced in the passage concerning the tour. thanks. --Darth NormaN (talk) 11:39, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Where to add the tour dates other way? There's no longer an extra page for it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oli W 93 (talk • contribs) 20:31, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
What about "List of The Best Damn Tour Dates" Oli W 93 (talk) 20:34, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
What's the problem putting a lot of genres that avril doesn't sing too? It's really absurd I think that it'll better if we put genres with some source... and stop to adding a lot of non-sense genres to this album. PS: there are a lot of genre than the best damn thing's songs! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.213.39.188 (talk) 20:17, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
On the Limited Version of the best damn thing i bought "Girlfriend Manderin Version (Clean)" is a bonus track and "When You're Gone" is an iTunes bonus track on the Deluxe Edition on itunes (at least in Canada). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.127.193.43 (talk) 06:00, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
sorry, i ment that "when you're gone acoustic" is a bonus track on canada itunes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.127.193.43 (talk) 06:02, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm tired of seeing the "stub" banner at the top of the page. I have checked the article and the stub template has been removed, so if someone more qualified than me could make a fair assessment of the article that would be great:) Lowri (talk) 18:01, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
On July 2, 2007, songwriters for the U.S. band The Rubinoos filed a lawsuit against Lavigne, her publishing company and Dr. Luke, stating that the song "Girlfriend" was very similar to The Rubinoos' 1979 single "I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend". This single was plagiarized from "Get Off Of My Cloud", which song of The Rolling Stones and was released in 1965. [11]
The hastily written second sentence about the Rubinoos song plagiarizing the Rolling Stones song is not supported by anything in note 11. I'm leaving it alone because I don't really care.
75.68.160.188 (talk)Sean —Preceding undated comment was added at 01:24, 29 October 2008 (UTC).
hey there, it would be nice if someone else could look into The Best Damn Tour 2008 to pick out the most relevant infos of the tour and merge them into this article. I've already started doing so but maybe I overlooked something important. Thanks --Darth NormaN (talk) 14:35, 22 May 2009 (UTC) P.S. Don't merge tour dates!
With a bit of expansion to the opening paragraph, I think this could be a Good Article. Anyone else agree? Zylo1994 (talk) 18:19, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Awesome article here with all sorts of goodies on the behind-the-scenes of this album. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies 09:05, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Everything was okay, until somebody came to add just Pop and Rock. I think it shouldnt be just that two (generally)... it's better to keep the old source. Because if somebody wants to add Punk it's well, because avril herself add Pop/Punk/Rock to Myspace when The Best Damn Thing was released. In this case... where is the Pop influence? just in teen pop? avril is teen pop but in a rock/pop-rock style of music... remember that teen pop also encompass hip-hop, rock, rap, r&b style, in the term of TEEN. If we talk about pop-punk and pop-rock... that genres are more into the Rock style than Pop —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.142.170.30 (talk) 01:47, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Having a section just for the genre of her album's is just downright stupid. There's no point in it all. As User:ScottMHoward pointed out, genres get vandalized a lot, which is true. But what is the exception here? ALL genres get vandalized from time to time. It's simple to revert it. I've tried to change it, a few times, and it kept getting reverted. Is it so hard to do that if someone changes it? ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT (Talk) 20:59, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
I must agree with that as well. If it was more detailed, it would be fine. But it still doesn't make sense to have it at all. I think the best way to decide is to just use one source - not a million like done here, because obviously different places are going to say different genres. I say either expand the section, or move them to the genre section, where they do belong. And by the way, do you guys not think that the section could be vandalized as well? ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT (Talk) 02:07, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Out of curiosity, why is there a semi-lock on this article? lol
Also, where did the Slant Magazine review go? I realize that they're insulting Avril (Which makes me want to lkajgkajs them) but it still provides an unbiased look on this article, besides saying "Slant magazine gave it poor reviews". 66.60.210.32 (talk) 08:12, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
Are only two songs on this album explicit? "Girlfriend", and "I Can Do Better" -- CDK (talk) 07:01, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
I've read this Wiki article and those pertaining to the singles released from this album and I have yet to find which studio(s) the songs were recorded in. We have producer's credits, songwriting credits, session musicians, etc. etc. but nowhere is the studio listed. Can the gatekeeper of this Wikki article please include this information. Thank You. By the way, just as an aside, it's interesting to listen to Avril's recordings at this late date and hear in retrospect how much Taylor Swift and Ke$ha's productions/songs sound like Avril's. She is clearly a leader. 184.76.56.97 (talk)JSJR 01232014 —Preceding undated comment added 09:45, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
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