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Ryerson University is a public research university located in downtown Toronto, Canada. Its urban campus surrounds Yonge and Dundas Square, with the majority of its buildings in the blocks northeast of the square in Toronto's Garden District. The university offers many specialized programs which are unique in Canada across its five faculties, including the largest undergraduate business program in Canada by enrolment.
In addition to offering full-time and part-time undergraduate and graduate programs leading to Bachelor's, Master's and Doctoral degrees, the university also offers part time degrees, distance education and certificates through its The G. Raymond Chang School of Continuing Education, which has annual enrollment of over 65,400 students.[4]Nonetheless, their entering class average is extremely low compared to other universities. In 2009, for Business and Commerce, Ryerson University had an entrance average of 79.9%[5], whereas the University of Toronto St. George, the University of Toronto Scarborough, and York University had entrance averages of 88.5%, 88.1%, and 86.9%, respectively[6][7].
Esousa constantly deletes the part regarding entering class averages even though it is valid information. However, he/she is willing to include information, such as "the university offers many specialized programs which are unique in Canada across its five faculties", which is a subjective interpretation of "specialized" without references.
Also, in the following passage:
Ryerson is known for its programs that emphasize applicable skills. As a result, the university has established a reputation for producing graduates who are career-ready in their related fields, such as child and youth care, fashion, photography, engineering, business administration and nursing[24]. The part-time study option offered in many of Ryerson's graduate programs, such as the MBA and the M.A. in Public Policy and Administration, have made the school a choice for professionals working in business and government in the Greater Toronto Area; however, many world renowned institutions, such as the University of Toronto and McGill University have a strong status in the United States and abroad[25]. In 2009, the university ranked second in Ontario for first-choice applications from graduating high school students receiving 11 percent of Ontario's total 84,300 admission requests.[20][26]
Esousa repeatedly removes "many world renowned institutions, such as the University of Toronto and McGill University have a strong status in the United States and abroad[25]," yet keeps subjective information such as "Ryerson is known for its programs that emphasize applicable skills," "producing graduates who are career-ready in their related fields," and "The part-time study option offered in many of Ryerson's graduate programs, such as the MBA and the M.A. in Public Policy and Administration, have made the school a choice for professionals working in business and government in the Greater Toronto Area." This information, unreferenced and biased, remains in the article, but the objective and sourced information that I have included is being removed. Objectivity is Essential (talk) 01:10, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
This University has so much more we can include, and so many more pictures that can be used. Maybe someone from the Arts program can make a project of this. I would help in anyway. This page can use alot more work! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hoice (talk • contribs) 01:28, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Faculty of Dragonball Z? Someones been vandalizing
I think it's overkill to link to each faculty, there's already a link to the main website, people can find their own way there. --File:Ottawa flag.png Spinboy 23:41, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
I don't really see how it is overkill. Most other university sites have links not only to the main faculty, but also to each department under them. While I agree that they can find their way through the main site, I don't see why we can't make things a little easier for those who aren't web savvy.
Greysliver 00:10, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
It's now 2008, and each faculty still has their own link. Definite overkill. This is not a university site. At best, they should be incorporated into a single paragraph. Musicmogul09 (talk) 19:45, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Ryerson people seem to be removing unflattering information.
Please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ryerson_University&action=history Esousa has undid all of Go leafs go 3000's edits, particularly in the area of "Reputation and Rankings," even though they all had references/citations. The only possible reason, therefore, for such removal is to conceal valid information that may not necessarily promote the university. Such subjectivity needs to stop, and objective information regarding admission averages must be shown to the public. Go leafs go 3000 (talk) 01:30, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
We need more pictures of Ryerson. (FreshRapture 11:33, 6 December 2006 (UTC))
I don't even think its Ryerson people. This article has turned into a joke. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.198.2.77 (talk) 16:08, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
There's a definite conflict of interest here. It's a common theme among university articles. Musicmogul09 (talk) 19:46, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ryerson Faculty Association. Johnleemk | Talk 14:47, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ryerson International Living Learning Centre. Johnleemk | Talk 14:49, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pitman Hall Residence. Johnleemk | Talk 14:51, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
"It has the largest undergraduate Faculty of Business in Canada and in the fall of 2006 will offer graduate business programs including MBA programs. The G. Raymond Chang School of Continuing Education is the country's largest provider of university-level adult education with over 60,000 enrollments." Ardenn 04:35, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
This article on Ryerson University contains much self-congratulating puffery. For example: "According to Maclean's Magazine Annual University Rankings, Ryerson's best rating is in the 'Reputation' classification where it is consistently ranked in the top 5 of the 21 'primarily undergraduate' category universities and in the top 20 of universities in all categories."
This is highly selective reportage. Actually, Macleans ranks Ryerson University near the bottom (18th of 21) among "primarily undergraduate universities" - a drop from 16th the previous year. See [1] This ranking implies Ryerson is of the worst universities in all of Canada - in the company of other academic embarrassments such as Lakehead and Nipissing which arguably should be shut down.
More puffery: "Ryerson University offers strong programs in Aerospace, Mechanical, Industrial, and Electrical Engineering. The university also has the prestige of being the only one in two Canadian Universities to offer programs in Aerospace Engineering, and many leading Aerospace Industries choose Ryerson graduates as in comparison with other universities."
Are there any non-Ryerson engineers in Canada who would says Ryerson's programs are strong or prestigious ? If anything, Ryerson may be reputed to be the engineering school to attend if the applicant has been rejected everywhere else - even by Windsor.
There was some debate in the 1980s and 1990s about the wisdom of converting Ryerson from a superior "Poytechnic" offering primarily three-year diplomas, to a mediocre "University" offering degrees. One could argue the people who most benefitted from the change were faculty members who wanted to call themselves professors but could not get appointments to real universities... There should be some discussion why the change was made from Polytechnic to University, and from three-year diplomas to four-year degrees.
An article based too much on the wishful thinking of boosters and spin doctors invites cynicism. This article should be revised to reflect the institution's true status and reputation.
70.49.37.207Kalos
Well why are there so many people who want to insult this univerity, Ryerson is RANKED OVERALL 18th OUT OF 47 yes 47 not 21 . So READ BEFORE YOU WRITE. Windsor is at 47. Anudeep Toora
Hello.
Happened to stumble upon this article, and there are two issues that seem to need addressing.
The first is the result of an attempt to "remove marketing cruft". The article is now very insulting to Ryerson. (There's nothing wrong with being neutral, but implying accusations is a bit much)
eg. "The university claims to offer more than 80 undergraduate and graduate degree programs". Claims? Is that really necessary? It very strongly implies that Ryerson doesn't offer that many programs. Wouldn't a simple ((fact)) have made more sense than phrasing it like that?
Far more disturbing than that is the set of accusations against muslims at Ryerson. I will admit that I've never been there (Brock student, myself), so I can't confirm or deny whether or not a cabal of evil muslims is truly trying to take over the entire school. However, what I can say is that providing only two sources:
doesn't really qualify as "verifiable" or "reliable".
Does anybody have any good references for supporting the accusations of intimidations, threats, organized campaigns to take over, etc? Because, if not, I'll just be deleting the entire paragraph. Bladestorm 23:49, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Fact tags aren't meant to be permanent fixtures. Either cite it, or remove it. GreenJoe 22:09, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:51, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
[2] Should we include something about this current event? Is it notable enough to include here? --W0lfie (talk) 22:52, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Musicmogul09 (talk) 13:41, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
It definitely appears to be undue weight to give this one incident an entire section of its own with the overly broad label "Controversy." It doesn't help that there are no sources whatsoever in the current version. If anything, this needs to be shortened to one or two sentences and integrated into the article.
If I can find the time and the willpower, I also plan to nominate the individual's article for deletion as failing to meet BIO but that's a story for another day... --ElKevbo (talk) 20:18, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
I am currently working through a major revamp to correct several issues, such as the introduction, source citation and the elimination of the trivia section. Please continue to edit this article, while the Under Construction tag is in place, but please consider not editing while I am using the In Use tag. This article is in need of a lot of work.
Also, please be aware that I am not adding any Personal Research. Most facts that I am adding, I do not believe are challenged or likely to be challenged. However, if you feel that anything I have edited is in dispute, please ask me to Prove it and I will add further sources and citations. Wjw0111 (talk) 20:48, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Alright, I've given this article a pretty big overhaul. There are some sources that need citing and some sections to expand, I'm aware. I'll be working on this over the next few days. Please add any information you have, make edits, Be Bold!. Just don't add another Trivia section ;).
As for source citation, I realize there's a lot that needs to be cited (mainly stuff out of the Trivia section that I put into the main article). However, I'm not sure what could be questioned and what is assumed true. For me, it's all assumed true because of my personal knowledge. However, this is not a place for personal unverified research, so if there's anything that you question the validity of, please just place a citation needed tag next to it in the article and I'll get to it and add a source as soon as I can. I just don't want to have to search around for sources of things I know are true unless others feel they are needed.Wjw0111 (talk) 19:08, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Could someone with a camera upload some good photos of the "Arch" at Ryerson to Commons:Category:Normal School (Toronto) and Commons:Category:Ryerson University at the Commons? (The Arch being the preserved portion of the façade of the old Toronto Normal School). Photos of the front (south side) of the Arch would be great. Actually, the Ryerson category at the Commons is a bit sparse, and could use contributions of any photos of the campus. Thanks. Skeezix1000 (talk) 12:35, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
How do i upload pictures? i have lots of nice pictures of the campus i can upload. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hoice (talk • contribs) 05:54, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
I revered the mass deletion of material by Musicmogul09 (talk · contribs). As for WP:COI, there is no conflict. Let's discuss these edits before you vandalise again. Me-123567-Me (talk) 22:17, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
There is no reason for that material and I have provided reasons in the history section. Looking back, all you have done is undo my actions without explanation. You started the edit war, you have vandalized, and you have a conflict of interest. Musicmogul09 (talk) 00:06, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
I don't think antagonizing other users into edit war is civil. Or vandalizing yourself, but accusing others of vandal is civil. this is not right. mini me should be blocked, but you editors have connections and help friends without looking at issue. you make wiki look bad Musicmogul09 (talk) 15:21, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Maybe I should edit more, and then GOAD new editors into getting themselves banned because I know the ins and outs of the system. Musicmogul09 (talk) 20:52, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
"In 1852 at the core of the main campus, the historic St. James Square, Egerton Ryerson founded Ontario's first teacher training facility, the Toronto Normal School. It also housed the Department of Education and the Museum of Natural History and Fine Arts, which became the Royal Ontario Museum. An agricultural laboratory on the site led to the later founding of the Ontario Agricultural College and the University of Guelph. St. James Square went through various other educational uses before housing a namesake of its original founder.
Egerton Ryerson was a leading educator, politician, and Methodist minister.[3] He is known as the father of Ontario's public school system. He is also a founder of the first publishing company in Canada in 1829, The Methodist Book and Publishing House, which was renamed The Ryerson Press in 1919 and today is part of McGraw-Hill Ryerson, Canadian publisher of educational and professional books. Although not affiliated with the university, the well known publishing company still bears Egerton Ryerson's name for its Canadian operations."
The third paragraph says when the ryerson institute of technology was founded. The previous two paragraphs have no relevant to the institute. It talks about the toronto normal school, the department of education, museum of natural history and fine arts, the ROM, the university of guel, agricultural college. Are you talking about the university or all the buildings that used to be there?
The second paragraph talks about egerton ryerson. But why include mcgraw=hill ryerson the publisher?
This stinks of puffery "The Ryerson Institute of Technology was founded in 1948 and its name was changed in 1964 to Ryerson Polytechnical Institute." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Musicmogul09 (talk • contribs) 11:46, August 29, 2008
Why the university is named after Egerton Ryerson is important background info. It is also important to note that the publisher, well-known in Canada, is not related to the university. DoubleBlue (Talk) 16:41, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Musicmogul09 (talk) 22:34, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—that is, whether readers are able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether we think it is true. Editors should provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, or the material may be removed. Wikipedia:Verifiability is one of Wikipedia's core content policies.
Could we try to find reliable sources to back up unreferenced material in this article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Collegestandard (talk • contribs) 17:56, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
There is an ongoing edit war. I don't know why some of the material is being warred over but the material about the faculties are clear copyright violations (the Faculty of Arts material was taken from here, for example). The copyrighted materials are completely unacceptable and I suspect that editors who continue to readd the material will be blocked. --ElKevbo (talk) 00:42, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
The WIKIPEDIA Caution Heading has been in place for quite some time, probably over a year, yet after several changes it still remains. Is it possible for the person who has added the caution to provide a list of specific issues so they can be addressed? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Histo1 (talk • contribs) 01:21, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
It would seem to me that a university turning arguably the most reverred athletic institution in Canada into their very own athletic centre should include some brief introduction of their athletic program on the wikipedia page. It seems that every school's page includes a segment on athletics and it is fact that the university is overhauling its athletics program over the next several years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.117.143.237 (talk) 04:09, 2 January 2011 (UTC)