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ALthough there was a civil war in 1990, the situation in 1994 should not be considered as a civil war, but morely as a genocide that occured. Simultaneously, however, Tutsi rebels were trying to liberate the Rwandan Country, so they in a sense were in a civil war, but the general population of Rwanda witnessed a genocide that was much more national than the civil war. Lets just say that what really happened from 1990-1994 was a planned genocide (with the help of the French) that occured in 1994, with a low-level civil war between the RPF and the Hutu extremist government occuring at the same time.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.89.133.253 (talk • contribs) 25 November 2006
However, the article does not mention how France armed the Hutu genocidal government, so you should put the box back in!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.108.171.130 (talk • contribs)
What is wrong to have a infobox? It was a civil war between 1990-94. Killerman2 16:54, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
I am curious why it says N/A in the info box under "casualties and losses". Generally N/A is an abbreviation for "Not Applicable", but it is incredibly "applicable" to look at casualties of civil war, no? Perhaps N/A here is meant to stand for "Not Available"? In which case, if this is true (and I am certainly having a difficult time finding death tolls for the war, as opposed to the genocide--which would not include those who died in RPF attacks), it is very important to clarify "not available".Forciera (talk) 13:03, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
There is a lot of propaganda present in this topic and on this page.
It is claimed that by having 37 advisors in the Rwandan military that France played a substantial role in the genocide. This strains belief. Furthermore, frequent genocides of both Hutu and Tutsi took place between 1959 and 2002, in Burundi, Rwanda, and the Congo, of which the Rwandan genocide is only one. This further makes the ongoing large scale clashes between Hutu and Tutsi very unlikely to have been caused by the French.
Furthermore, it has been presented that the Hutu government of Habyarimana "immediately" began genocide after the invasion of the Tutsi RPF forces. This is clearly misrepresented. There were several cease-fires before the 1993 Arusha Accords, and it was 4 years between the invasion by Kagame's RPF and the genocide. Four years is hardly "immediate." The genocide therefore must be viewed in context of the large scale civil war that was not only occurring in Rwanda but also burundi. Mbabane 22:17, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
In the Guerilla war part some mysterious sentence hints at a RPF massacre of Hutu in 1993: "By that time, over 1.5 million civilians, mostly Hutu, had left their homes, fleeing the mass murders conducted by the RPF troops towards the Hutu population." However no other part of the article confirms any mass murders of Hutu by the RPF and there is no reference either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.120.203.238 (talk) 13:35, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
The UN mapping report on Rwanda gives a pretty strong impression that the 1.5 million civilians that left there homes left them to the local mass grave. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.170.192.176 (talk) 02:24, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
I've removed the claim that the UN somehow "supported" the FPR. If the UN force is to be kept in the infobox, it should at least be as a third-party.
I find it problematic overall to include the UN as a combatant. This conflict was characterized by the absence of UN interference, and while armed, the UN force was certainly not a fighting party (unless attacked). Including a peacekeeping force as a combatant is misleading, and I suggest removing it and leaving the infobox for the combatants only. (That still leaves space for France, Zaire and Belgium, whom all sent troops to fight the FPR). --Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 02:28, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
As of right now, there are more non-combatants than combatants in the infobox. Can we just agree to narrow it down to the actual belligerents? --Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 18:03, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
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@Amakuru: Prunier and Kinzer both seem to suggest that the impetus for the attack on Ruhengeri rested with Kagame. Muhanguzi suggests that it was conceived by Alexis Kanyarengwe. He writes, "Although it was never stated officially, Kanyarengwe is believed to have masterminded the Ruhengeri attack since it happened immediately after he crossed from Tanzania to join the RPF/A". He also cites an unnamed "senior RPA commander" who told him that Kanyarengwe "impressed it upon us and pointed out how important it was to raid the prison and free these detainees who would become military and political assets to the RPA. HE assured us that they would not hesitate to join our ranks if they got to know he was with us."
On the whole Muhanguzi offers more info on the war's impact on Uganda, which should also be included in this article. -Indy beetle (talk) 00:32, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
@Indy beetle: 1) The Rwandan Genocide happened both during and in the context of the civil war, it was not a separate event (it started after the death of the president (for which rebels were blamed) and it had been planned well in advance), 2) it was mentioned that the 500-800,000 civilians died during the genocide alone, 3) leaving it out goes against conventions and withholds the most important piece of information about this war, 4) "spamming the infobox"? Come on. (I'm going to fulfill Godwin's law: Were the people who died in the Holocaust not casualties of World War II?) Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 02:03, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
@Indy beetle:, here is the conclusion of a critical review which echoes what I wrote in my edit summary. Susan Thomson is a specialist on Rwanda who speaks Kinyarwanda.
A Thousand Hills falls far short of its stated goal of explaining Paul Kagame's road to power; it simply reports the assertions of those in power. It is a pity that many people seeking to understand Rwanda will read this book without realizing that it is little more than government propaganda.[1]
Kinzer's views are pretty worthless in my view, and I don't see the point of citing him. It is far better to cite RPF officials directly, this will be less misleading to the users who may not be aware of Kinzer's naivety. As it stands, the article quotes what Kinzer writes on the nature of the killings of hutus as fact, even though "source of ultimate responsibility of these killings is disputed", as the article itself goes on to write. I therefore find it best to remove it. Uglemat (talk) 20:24, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
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While this paragraph was well sourced and added in good faith, it seems UNDUE for this article. Most of it has to do with the aftermath of the genocide from a very specific angle, it seems more fitting on the genocide article or an article on gender based violence. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:09, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
During Genocide Against Tutsi in 1994 more than 1000000 Tutsis were killed by County Forces Interahamwe and the arm of that time FAR. 197.157.184.222 (talk) 07:09, 13 April 2024 (UTC)