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Robyn Miller once released early design sketches for Riven on his blog, under a CC license (by-nc-nd 2.5). They are no longer to be found on his server, however I have one of them on my hard drive. I think it could add a lot of value to the "Development"-section. I'm not sure what's ok and not with such CC-licenced images. Should I upload them? 81.236.199.5 (talk) 08:52, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
This article would greatly benefit from a few screenshots. Currently, it's just a lot of text which gives a somewhat uninspiring impression. After all, the game is probably mostly known for its impressive graphics. 84.217.139.151 21:48, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
I've edited the story section to better reflect the nature of the book that is given to the stranger. It is in fact a small prison that can actually be linked to and does not leave the character in limbo.
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Actually, Atrus's diary in the game says ""anyone who attempts to use the Book will be permanently trapped in the dark void of the link". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.181.8.149 (talk) 08:53, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
I have posted this message on all myst articles: I think it would be nice to have continuity over all the Myst Articles. This could be done with a section on the story, ages / islands and graphical advancements for all. What does everyone else think? Also, how could this be coordinated?
Please use this section for any notes on changes the article needs, so they can be done after the protection is removed.
Is an alternate name for this game used by fans of the series "Myst II"?
- Not really, it's almost always referred to as 'Riven'.
217.211.215.43 21:08, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
I changed a few island names to better known ones (Crater Island -> Book Assembly Island and Plateau Island -> Survey Island). Maybe the "Ages" section should be renamed to "Islands"? --Akhel 17:09, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
I wonder where this often repeated statement originates from. Whoever said it had/has never tried "Uru" or "End of Ages". I did't find "Riven" particularly hard in 1997, and today I'd say it's easier than the original "Myst". Once solved, you never really forget how. The references to the number Five in the game may interest hardcore fans, but I'd rather read more about Richard Vander Wende and his background. IMO he played a great role in designing Riven and never got the proper attention. The game was called "Riven - The Sequel to Myst" in 1997. So it has as many references to "Myst" in its title as "Uru - Ages beyond Myst", which hasn't got a number and is apparently not really considered by the Millers to be part of the "Myst" series. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.189.140.27 (talk) 17:44, 11 April 2007 (UTC).
The thing that makes Riven, in my opinion, the toughest one, is that the story is not given to you. You kind of have to figure out your objectives for yourself. Uru isn't really part of the Myst continuity, and End of Ages is only easy to understand, it's just hard as anything to work the tablet correctly.Elmorell 20:14, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
You need to explore the four island (Specialy Plateau island) before to understand HOW TO. Because, at the beginnig of the game, your goals are "Rescue Catherine" then "Call Atrus". Nothing more !
In the intro, Atrus gives you the trap book and tells you need to trap Gehn. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.181.8.149 (talk) 09:03, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
Isn't "The Sequel to Myst" more of a tagline than part of the title? So the article title should only be "Riven". Anyone agree? --Mika1h 20:35, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Please... add someting more than this jerking review of CGW. Just a 2 minute of play, of course you can say this... but play it completly next time ! 205.205.239.179 06:56, 31 May 2007
There was a DVD edition and a CD edition of this game. What's the difference? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SuperGerbil (talk • contribs) 17:21, August 28, 2007 (UTC)
I felt that the section that details out every single aspect of every single alternate ending was quite a bit too detailed, and didn't bring anything useful to the article... I have now removed it completely, if for some reason you object, do bring it back but please leave a comment about it here too. 81.225.128.124 14:45, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
the line "[...], but the black Gateway Image suggests Riven has been completely destroyed by that time", confuses me slightly, as (if my memory serves me correct), in the ending sequence of Riven, when "The Stranger", opens a "hatch" to the star-filled void, the entire age is torn apart in a process very alike to the vacuum of space sucking out everything (through this "hatch"), and thus completly destroying the age...
correct me if i'm wrong
81.235.171.21 14:20, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
I hate to bring up another page move debate, but shouldn't it be "Riven: The Sequel to Myst" rather than the current arrangement? The comma is not part of the title and a colon is usually used to separate subtitles.. Rehevkor (talk) 16:57, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was move back to Riven. JPG-GR (talk) 23:01, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
I placed a move request at Wikipedia:Requested moves so we can decide this issue once and for all. The two possible names for this article are Riven or Riven: The Sequel to Myst.
I personally prefer Riven as it's listed like that in the official site. Also "The Sequel to Myst" sounds like a tagline (not used in article titles) more than a subtitle (used in article titles). --Mika1h (talk) 00:05, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Incidentally, assuming we move it back we're just correcting this ill-advised move. Andrewa (talk) 21:10, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
From the survey above: but it's just that, a tag line. It's a significant tag line, in that it gives a title with five words, which ties in with the game. But the game is commonly called Riven (and note the five letters). Andrewa (talk) 01:03, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
I know the discussion is over so, I'm not going to modify the text above. But, in my opinion, the title should be what is shown onscreen when you play the game. Different countries have different box art and may not have that subtitle on it. The actual game content should be the same from english speaking country to english speaking country. 156.34.216.75 (talk) 01:11, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
We have signs of a minor edit disagreement over whether commas and periods should go inside or outside of quotation marks that exist around a word that isn't a quotation, such as a title - e.g., should it be:
or
Before anybody gets all fired up about this, please note that there is no agreed-upon style. Nothing is right or wrong; it's a matter of taste and habit.
The Associated Press and many American grammarians (see Strunk and White's "The Elements of Style") prefer commas and periods inside quote marks, while many British/Commonwealth grammarians prefer them outside - as do programmers, fearing confusion over whether to write a punctuation mark as part of a line of code. (This site [1] discusses the British style) Neither is correct or incorrect.
Because "Riven" is an American game, my personal opinion is that it should follow American habits, just as we do with spelling, which would mean commas and periods inside quote marks. But I don't think it matters much. (Semicolons and colons go outside quote marks in either system.) - DavidWBrooks (talk) 22:27, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Recently, some external links were removed from this article (as seen here). Are these links really counterproductive to the article? WP:NOTLINK says:
"There is nothing wrong with adding one or more useful content-relevant links to an article; however, excessive lists can dwarf articles and detract from the purpose of Wikipedia. On articles about topics with many fansites, for example, including a link to one major fansite may be appropriate."
In this case, the links to MobyGames, IMdb, and the MYSTerium fansite were removed leaving only one external link. MobyGames and IMdb links are, in my opinion, always helpful, because they usually have a good list of details like taglines, cast, and links to more critical commentary. MYSTerium was one of the premiere Myst fansites for news, but it is now dormant. Perhaps we should keep the links to MobyGames and IMdb and update the MYSTerium link to a more active fansite? — OranL (talk) 16:53, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
As far as I know, Myst was the only Myst Series game released on the Sega Saturn. Unless I am missing something, Riven was never released on Sega Saturn or am I missing something? JasonHockeyGuy (talk) 05:08, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
Could someone tell me how well they think I did on the spoken version of this article? Thanks. Hi! How are you? 01:33, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
The player character is referred to as "the Stranger" here. Should it really be capitalized like this? I think "The Stranger" or "the stranger" makes more sense - either the whole thing, including the article, should be considered part of the name, or it should not be considered a name at all but rather a description, hence all lowercase. What do you think? 90.232.214.193 (talk) 13:18, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
The gameplay section has the following sentence: "Many puzzles' sole purpose is to advance the backstory". From looking at the game, I can't really agree with this. While pretty much all the puzzles do tie in with and somehow "advance" the backstory of the world, I can't think of a single one which has only that purpose. Is it ok to delete this statement? 83.250.53.18 (talk) 09:12, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Today the article is illustrated with the box image and a screenshot of Prison Island, taken from ubi.com. I think it could be nice choose a better screenshot. For instance, it might be a good idea to use an image that illustrates the size of the in-game world, such as a view where several of the islands are seen at the same time. Is there any particular legal reason why the current image is taken from Ubisoft's website, rather than a screenshot from the game itself? I'm not sure what the prefered procedures for choosing and replacing images are, is it ok to go ahead and replace the image with a better one, as long as it's low res etc? Obiha (talk) 08:09, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
There's a remake going down! Called "Starry Expanse". http://vimeo.com/32374420 Endlessmug (talk) 01:48, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
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The article states Riven was the best selling game of 1997 but that doesn't add up. There are no sources but it's stated Riven sold 1.5 million copies in its first year and I've seen an LA times article listing it selling 4.5 million copies by 2001. I've seen Gran Turismo listed as selling 10.85 million copies globally with 3.99 million copies sold in North America alone.[1] 1997 was a very big year in gaming. Mario Kart 64 came out that year and I've seen it listed as selling as many as 9.87 million copies worldwide with 5.5 million in the US.[2] For as big of a claim as "best selling game of the year," I'd expect some sources. 141.214.17.228 (talk) 05:49, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
And despite its late-in-the-year October release, "Riven" was the top-selling game for 1997; it has now sold close to 1.5 million copies.
Are there any additional sources beyond the Salon quote? It just doesn't add up to me. Riven did not sell the most total units out of other games released in 1997. Multiple other games sold more total units. Riven was released late in the year so for it to beat those games, it would have to have extremely front loaded sales which is a strange thing to do, on top of that, it was marketed toward a broader spectrum of consumers than traditional video games. They would probably not be the type to be following game release dates. If any game would not be front loaded and instead have a "long tail" I would expect it would be a game like Riven, just like Myst. If people want to leave it in, that's alright. Calling Riven the "Best Selling game of 1997" is a big claim though and that should have some big evidence, especially when it goes against conventional wisdom. On top of that, it should be clarified. Other games sold more copies than Riven that were released in 1997. Even if a movie releases in December and makes a portion of its revenue the following year, it is traditionally called the highest grossing movie of the year it was released in. Also, are we counting worldwide sales or just North American sales? 141.214.17.228 (talk) 06:15, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
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