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"Legends": Edwin Kelly, Charlie Peterson (pool player) (all BCA Hall of Famers); George Franklin Slosson, Maurice Daly (billiards player), Frank Ives, George Butler Sutton [not George H. Sutton, the one with no hands]
Media and misc.: Iwan Simonis (leading billiard cloth maker), Joss Cues (major cue mfr.), The Baron and the Kid [Johnny Cash film], Ultimate Pool Party [TV show]
And: everyone/thing listed at WP:CUEGAMES, WP:CUEEVENTS, WP:CUEORGS, WP:CUEBIOS, & WP:CUEMISC. Also a Cue sports world records article (many can be pulled from bio articles like Geet Sethi, Guinness Book will provide others, and so will BCA and other orgs., websites and books like Shamos 1999).
Internal pages: Something like: [2][3]). Such pages are not fluff, but can be good places to find recruits for the project, possibly including subject-matter experts, especially if cross-referenced to the project. Also, Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Cue sports (cf. [4][5][6]).
Create timelines, both textual and graphical. See link for various guidelines and examples. We need an overall one for cue sports generally, and more specific ones as we drill down into more specific topics (timeline of nine-ball, timeline of Willie Mosconi's career, etc.).
Form sections: Exhibition game needs section on cue sports; could later form a new article with "Main article..." xref to it. What other general articles need cue sports sections?
Images: improve articles with images from commons; create pics and add them to commons as GFDL/CC-by/PD.
Add: ((Sport overview)) to main articles of cue games that are real sports; medal table tags where they apply (see Ding Junhui for example).
Insert: Cue sports events (tournament results, etc.) into the "year in sports" categories (e.g. 1965 in sports), using ((subst:Cue sports heading)) if that year doesn't have one yet.
Kingsley Kennerley and Joe Davis are linked in the first section, no need to repeat his link again here per WP:OVERLINK.
Done.
Albert Brown is linked to a redirect, seems unnecessary when you're already piping.
Amended.
1960s revival of snooker
Link for Blackheath?
Link added.
Fred Davis linked previously. Jack Rea is linked here but not under a previous mention of Jackie Rea above. Best to stick to one name to avoid confusion.
Done.
Countries are generally considered overlinks, so South Africa would probably be fine unlinked.
Done.
"second man to make a recognised 147 break", I notice that there are a few instances of refs being placed in non-numerical order, as in this sentence. Is this intentional?
Done.
World billiards championship and the WPBSA
Is World Billiards Championship the name of the tournament? If so, it would need capitalising in the heading here.
I'm not 100% sure if it always has been. Everton's book has "World Professional Championship of English Billiards" from 1933 to 1973 for the B&SCC ratified event, and "World Professional Billiards and Snooker Association" from 1971, which is obviously not the actual title of the championship. I've added professional as it definitely isn't the amateur event. (the official World Billiards site has "World Billiards Championship" now but the game is open, i.e. there is no longer a distinction between amateurs and professionals. Entry criteria here for the 2018 event point readers to Wikipedia for the names of past champions...
"Williams was the World Professional Billiards Championship seven times", this doesn't quite work.
amended.
"beating Williams 5978–4,452", there's no comma in the first score here as used with the rest of the scores.
Done.
"48-minute late" > 48-minutes
Done.
Performance and rankings timeline
What sources are used for the tables?
References now added. There were a couple of minor tournaments I couldn't verify so I've hidden those. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 15:22, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Here's what I picked out on an initial run through. Nothing major, a few minor issues. Placed on hold for now. Kosack (talk) 12:04, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your helpful and constructive review, Kosack. I've started working on the points above. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:14, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hopefully I've addressed everything so far, Kosack. Let me know what remains to be done. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 15:22, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The article's looking in great shape. One further point I would raise is that his full name (Desmond) doesn't seem to be sourced anywhere. It may be a simple case of adding it to the opening line of the junior career section if the refs cover it. Kosack (talk) 11:14, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Kosack - I've added this as suggested. (The source shows that it's his full name, which isn't necessarily his name at birth, so I've worded the article to reflect this.). Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 13:03, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
All of my points have been suitably addressed. I'm satisfied that the article meets the GA criteria. Happy to promote. Kosack (talk) 08:30, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]