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For those of us playing along at home, @Castncoot:, where was the "compromise to leave this section as is"? Of the −27,682 bytes removed on November 2, Chronus re-added only +2,596. You've now somehow reintroduced +23,303 bytes with your classic WP:OWNERSHIP-style "Kindly I beg you to let Chronus and me deal with this section" edit summary. Seasider53 (talk) 06:44, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
Proposal A
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The city's population in 2020 was 30.9% White (non-Hispanic), 28.7% Hispanic or Latino, 20.2% Black or African American (non-Hispanic), 15.6% Asian, and 0.2% Native American (non-Hispanic). A total of 3.4% of the non-Hispanic population identified with more than one race.[3] In 2013, approximately 36% of the city's population is foreign born,[4] and more than half of all children are born to mothers who are immigrants. Throughout its history, New York has been a major port of entry for immigrants into the United States.[5][6] In New York, no single country or region of origin dominates.[5] The ten largest sources of foreign-born individuals in the city as of 2011[update] were the Dominican Republic, China, Mexico, Guyana, Jamaica, Ecuador, Haiti, India, Russia, and Trinidad and Tobago,[7] Queens has the largest Asian American and Andean populations in the United States, and is also the most ethnically and linguistically diverse urban area in the world.[8][9] New York City has the largest European and non-Hispanic white population of any American city, with 2.7 million in 2012.[10] The European diaspora residing in the city is very diverse and many European ethnic groups have formed enclaves in New York.[11][12][13] More than 12 million European immigrants were received at Ellis Island between 1892 and 1954.[14] Asian Americans in New York City, according to the 2010 census, number more than one million, greater than the combined totals of San Francisco and Los Angeles.[15] New York contains the highest total Asian population of any U.S. city proper.[16] The Manhattan's Chinatown is the highest concentration of Chinese people in the Western Hemisphere,[1] while Queens is home to the largest Tibetan population outside Asia.[17] Arab Americans number over 160,000 in New York City,[18] with the highest concentration in Brooklyn. Central Asians, primarily Uzbek Americans, are a rapidly growing segment of the city's non-Hispanic White population.[19] New York is also home to the highest Jewish population of any city in the world, numbering 1.6 million in 2022, more than Tel Aviv and Jerusalem combined.[20] In the borough of Brooklyn, an estimated 1 in 4 residents is Jewish.[21] References
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@Castncoot, Seasider53, and Nikkimaria: Hey guys. What do you think of the proposal below:
Proposal B
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Race and ethnicityThe city's population in 2020 was 30.9% White (non-Hispanic), 28.7% Hispanic or Latino, 20.2% Black or African American (non-Hispanic), 15.6% Asian, and 0.2% Native American (non-Hispanic). A total of 3.4% of the non-Hispanic population identified with more than one race.[3] In 2013, approximately 36% of the city's population is foreign born,[4] and more than half of all children are born to mothers who are immigrants. Throughout its history, New York has been a major port of entry for immigrants into the United States.[5][6] In New York, no single country or region of origin dominates.[5] The ten largest sources of foreign-born individuals in the city as of 2011[update] were the Dominican Republic, China, Mexico, Guyana, Jamaica, Ecuador, Haiti, India, Russia, and Trinidad and Tobago,[7] Queens has the largest Asian American and Andean populations in the United States, and is also the most ethnically and linguistically diverse urban area in the world.[8][9] The metropolitan area is home to 20% of the nation's Indian Americans and at least 20 Little India enclaves, and 15% of all Korean Americans and four Koreatowns;[10] the largest Asian Indian population in the Western Hemisphere; the largest Russian American,[11] Italian American, and African American populations; the largest Dominican American, Puerto Rican American, and South American[11] and second-largest overall Hispanic population in the United States, numbering 4.8 million;[12] and includes multiple established Chinatowns within New York City alone.[13] New York City has the largest European and non-Hispanic white population of any American city, with 2.7 million in 2012.[14] The European diaspora residing in the city is very diverse and many European ethnic groups have formed enclaves in New York.[15][16][17] More than 12 million European immigrants were received at Ellis Island between 1892 and 1954.[18] Asian Americans in New York City, according to the 2010 census, number more than one million, greater than the combined totals of San Francisco and Los Angeles.[19] New York contains the highest total Asian population of any U.S. city proper.[20] The Manhattan's Chinatown is the highest concentration of Chinese people in the Western Hemisphere,[1] while Queens is home to the largest Tibetan population outside Asia.[21] Arab Americans number over 160,000 in New York City,[22] with the highest concentration in Brooklyn. Central Asians, primarily Uzbek Americans, are a rapidly growing segment of the city's non-Hispanic White population.[23] New York is also home to the highest Jewish population of any city in the world, numbering 1.6 million in 2022, more than Tel Aviv and Jerusalem combined.[24] In the borough of Brooklyn, an estimated 1 in 4 residents is Jewish.[25] Venezuela, Ecuador, Colombia, Guyana, Peru, and Brazil, are the top source countries from South America for immigrants to the New York City region; the Dominican Republic, Jamaica, Haiti, and Trinidad and Tobago in the Caribbean; Nigeria, Egypt, Ghana, Tanzania, Kenya, and South Africa from Africa; and El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala in Central America.[26] Amidst a resurgence of Puerto Rican migration to New York City, this population had increased to approximately 1.5 million in the metropolitan area as of 2016[update].[27] Since 2010, Little Australia has emerged and is growing rapidly, representing the Australasian presence in Nolita, Manhattan.[28][29][30][31] In 2011, there were an estimated 20,000 Australian residents of New York City, nearly quadruple the 5,537 in 2005.[32][33] Qantas Airways of Australia and Air New Zealand have been planning for long-haul flights from New York to Sydney and Auckland, which would both rank among the longest non-stop flights in the world.[34] References
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Chronus (talk) 22:25, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
Proposal C
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Race and ethnicityThe city's population in 2020 was 30.9% White (non-Hispanic), 28.7% Hispanic or Latino, 20.2% Black or African American (non-Hispanic), 15.6% Asian, and 0.2% Native American (non-Hispanic). A total of 3.4% of the non-Hispanic population identified with more than one race.[3] As of 2013[update], approximately 36% of the city's population is foreign born,[4] and more than half of all children are born to mothers who are immigrants. Throughout its history, New York has been a major port of entry for immigrants into the United States.[5][6] No single country or region of origin dominates.[5] The ten largest sources of foreign-born individuals in the city as of 2011[update] were the Dominican Republic, China, Mexico, Guyana, Jamaica, Ecuador, Haiti, India, Russia, and Trinidad and Tobago,[7] The metropolitan area has the largest Asian Indian population in the Western Hemisphere; the largest Russian American,[8] Italian American, and African American populations; the largest Dominican American, Puerto Rican American, and South American[8] and second-largest overall Hispanic population in the United States, numbering 4.8 million.[9] Amidst a resurgence of Puerto Rican migration to New York City, this population had increased to approximately 1.5 million as of 2016[update].[10] Queens has the largest Asian American and Andean populations in the United States, and is also the most ethnically and linguistically diverse urban area in the world.[11][12] New York contains the highest total Asian population of any U.S. city proper.[13] Asian Americans in New York City, according to the 2010 census, number more than one million, greater than the combined totals of San Francisco and Los Angeles.[14] Manhattan's Chinatown is the highest concentration of Chinese people in the Western Hemisphere,[1] while Queens is home to the largest Tibetan population outside Asia.[15] Arab Americans number over 160,000 in New York City,[16] with the highest concentration in Brooklyn. Central Asians, primarily Uzbek Americans, are a rapidly growing segment of the city's non-Hispanic White population.[17] The metropolitan area is home to 20% of the nation's Indian Americans and at least 20 Little India enclaves, and 15% of all Korean Americans and four Koreatowns.[18] New York City has the largest European and non-Hispanic white population of any American city, with 2.7 million in 2012.[19] The European diaspora residing in the city is very diverse and many European ethnic groups have formed enclaves.[20][21][22] New York is also home to the highest Jewish population of any city in the world, numbering 1.6 million in 2022, more than Tel Aviv and Jerusalem combined.[23] In the borough of Brooklyn, an estimated one in four residents is Jewish.[24] References
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Proposal D
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Race and ethnicityThe city's population in 2020 was 30.9% White (non-Hispanic), 28.7% Hispanic or Latino, 20.2% Black or African American (non-Hispanic), 15.6% Asian, and 0.2% Native American (non-Hispanic). A total of 3.4% of the non-Hispanic population identified with more than one race.[3] In 2013, approximately 36% of the city's population is foreign born,[4] and more than half of all children are born to mothers who are immigrants. Throughout its history, New York has been a major port of entry for immigrants into the United States.[5][6] In New York, no single country or region of origin dominates.[5] The ten largest sources of foreign-born individuals in the city as of 2011[update] were the Dominican Republic, China, Mexico, Guyana, Jamaica, Ecuador, Haiti, India, Russia, and Trinidad and Tobago,[7] Queens has the largest Asian American and Andean populations in the United States, and is also the most ethnically and linguistically diverse urban area in the world.[8][9] The metropolitan area is home to 20% of the nation's Indian Americans and at least 20 Little India enclaves, and 15% of all Korean Americans and four Koreatowns;[10] the largest Asian Indian population in the Western Hemisphere; the largest Russian American,[11] Italian American, and African American populations; the largest Dominican American, Puerto Rican American, and South American[11] and second-largest overall Hispanic population in the United States, numbering 4.8 million;[12] and includes multiple established Chinatowns within New York City alone.[13] Venezuela, Ecuador, Colombia, Guyana, Peru, and Brazil, are the top source countries from South America for immigrants to the New York City region; the Dominican Republic, Jamaica, Haiti, and Trinidad and Tobago in the Caribbean; Nigeria, Egypt, Ghana, Tanzania, Kenya, and South Africa from Africa; and El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala in Central America.[14] Amidst a resurgence of Puerto Rican migration to New York City, this population had increased to approximately 1.5 million in the metropolitan area as of 2016[update].[15] New York City has the largest European and non-Hispanic white population of any American city, with 2.7 million in 2012.[16] The European diaspora residing in the city is very diverse and many European ethnic groups have formed enclaves in New York.[17][18][19] More than 12 million European immigrants were received at Ellis Island between 1892 and 1954.[20] By 1900, Germans were the largest immigrant group, followed by the Irish, Jews, and Italians.[21] In 1940, Whites represented 92% of the city's population at 6.6 million.[22][23] Asian Americans in New York City, according to the 2010 census, number more than one million, greater than the combined totals of San Francisco and Los Angeles.[24] New York contains the highest total Asian population of any U.S. city proper.[25] The Manhattan's Chinatown is the highest concentration of Chinese people in the Western Hemisphere,[1] while Queens is home to the largest Tibetan population outside Asia.[26] Arab Americans number over 160,000 in New York City,[27] with the highest concentration in Brooklyn. Central Asians, primarily Uzbek Americans, are a rapidly growing segment of the city's non-Hispanic White population.[28] New York is also home to the highest Jewish population of any city in the world, numbering 1.6 million in 2022, more than Tel Aviv and Jerusalem combined.[29] In the borough of Brooklyn, an estimated 1 in 4 residents is Jewish.[30] Since 2010, Little Australia has emerged and is growing rapidly, representing the Australasian presence in Nolita, Manhattan.[31][32][33][34] In 2011, there were an estimated 20,000 Australian residents of New York City, nearly quadruple the 5,537 in 2005.[35][36] Qantas Airways of Australia and Air New Zealand have been planning for long-haul flights from New York to Sydney and Auckland, which would both rank among the longest non-stop flights in the world.[37] References
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Proposal E
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Race and ethnicityThe city's population in 2020 was 30.9% White (non-Hispanic), 28.7% Hispanic or Latino, 20.2% Black or African American (non-Hispanic), 15.6% Asian, and 0.2% Native American (non-Hispanic). A total of 3.4% of the non-Hispanic population identified with more than one race.[3] As of 2013[update], approximately 36% of the city's population is foreign born,[4] and more than half of all children are born to mothers who are immigrants. Throughout its history, New York has been a major port of entry for immigrants into the United States.[5][6] No single country or region of origin dominates.[5] The ten largest sources of foreign-born individuals in the city as of 2011[update] were the Dominican Republic, China, Mexico, Guyana, Jamaica, Ecuador, Haiti, India, Russia, and Trinidad and Tobago,[7] Queens has the largest Asian American and Andean populations in the United States, and is also the most ethnically and linguistically diverse urban area in the world.[8][9] The metropolitan area has the largest Asian Indian population in the Western Hemisphere; the largest Russian American,[10] Italian American, and African American populations; the largest Dominican American, Puerto Rican American, and South American[10] and second-largest overall Hispanic population in the United States, numbering 4.8 million.[11] Venezuela, Ecuador, Colombia, Guyana, Peru, and Brazil, are the top source countries from South America for immigrants to the New York City region; the Dominican Republic, Jamaica, Haiti, and Trinidad and Tobago in the Caribbean; Nigeria, Egypt, Ghana, Tanzania, Kenya, and South Africa from Africa; and El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala in Central America.[12] New York contains the highest total Asian population of any U.S. city proper.[13] Asian Americans in New York City, according to the 2010 census, number more than one million, greater than the combined totals of San Francisco and Los Angeles.[14] Manhattan's Chinatown is the highest concentration of Chinese people in the Western Hemisphere,[1] while Queens is home to the largest Tibetan population outside Asia.[15] Arab Americans number over 160,000 in New York City,[16] with the highest concentration in Brooklyn. Central Asians, primarily Uzbek Americans, are a rapidly growing segment of the city's non-Hispanic White population.[17] The metropolitan area is home to 20% of the nation's Indian Americans and at least 20 Little India enclaves, and 15% of all Korean Americans and four Koreatowns.[18] New York City has the largest European and non-Hispanic white population of any American city, with 2.7 million in 2012.[19] The European diaspora residing in the city is very diverse and many European ethnic groups have formed enclaves.[20][21][22] New York is also home to the highest Jewish population of any city in the world, numbering 1.6 million in 2022, more than Tel Aviv and Jerusalem combined.[23] In the borough of Brooklyn, an estimated one in four residents is Jewish.[24] References
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Chronus (talk) 00:27, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
Just so that we're on the same page, this is not a "critical part of New York City's history":
The World Trade Center PATH station, which had opened on July 19, 1909, as the Hudson Terminal, was destroyed in the attacks. A temporary station was built and opened in 2003 and a 800,000-square-foot (74,000 m2) permanent rail station designed by Santiago Calatrava, the World Trade Center Transportation Hub, the city's third-largest hub, was completed in 2016.
Also, I'm visiting the city in a couple of weeks, so I can expect to be treated as a savant upon my return. That is how it works, right? Seasider53 (talk) 12:02, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
I noticed there was no sports section, unlike most other major cities. Is there a reason for this? Sumdood2798 (talk) 16:45, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
A discussion was happening here regarding article ledes, and this article was specifically mentioned as a case where through accretion, the lead went from being near-ideal to too long. I agree, so I figured I'd drop a topic here about it. Remsense留 02:33, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
I made my edit at Special:Diff/1190307831. Here's the edit summary as promised:
- CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 04:41, 17 December 2023 (UTC)