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I am looking for information on how and from whom an operating company obtains its franchise. Laurel Bush 4 July 2005 10:59 (UTC).
Thanks. Laurel Bush 4 July 2005 12:57 (UTC).
Just a note to thank all the shapers of this article for an excellent concise, and precise, guide to some difficult-to-pin down concepts. Even National Rail's own site does not really define "National Rail", and with Network Rail also being "NR" (not to mention Northern Rail too!) the level of clear disambiguation presented here is very necessary. -- Picapica 10:40, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
I've seen several articles in which it is stated that Grand Central Trains will be starting its services from Kings Cross to Sunderland/Bradford in 2007, but also recently read (last week) that the debate was still ongoing as to who would get the available paths out of Kings Cross. Does anyone know what the current situation is? Willkm 16:10, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
I realise that this is an enormous topic to cover, but would it be appropriate to try and disambigulate the range of tickets and fares available amongst ATOC operators? Or would it be easier to start once the government whittle down the categories to 4? Steve 1pm, 8 March 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.112.77.231 (talk) 13:11, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
There is no London-Gatwick ticket that can be used on all three main operators between these two stations. There is a ticket that is valid on all operators except Gatwick Express (which can also be used on services that otherwise would not be available for London-Gatwick passengers, such as the Virgin services between East Croydon and Gatwick). But if you want to travel Gatwick Express you have to buy a Gatwick Express ticket. What makes the situation more complicated is that through tickets that involve the London-Gatwick line are valid on Gatwick Express (as well as other operators on the line) unless stated otherwise. The difficulty is how to explain this succinctly... Flagboy 10:56, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
I have shown the OAG Rail guide as an alternative to the discontinued National Rail Timetable. It is available from Middleton Press. Is it permissible for me to add a link or will this be regarded as advertising? Biscuittin 12:01, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Just one actually. Should there be a section dealing with the website? Simply south 21:43, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
The article states that the National Rail font is Logotype which looks like a bolded version of comic sans. Is this correct? None of the examples on the page appear to be anything like Comic Sans (except for being Sans-Serif)... Is this another font it's refering to? EAi (talk) 12:09, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
I presume many of the editors involved with this article are at least aware of the publication Railway Magazine. Those of you who read one of the more recent editions may remember a spread in that on this very subject. Rather unhelpfully, it came to the conclusion that while the name 'Network Rail' is fully understood and properly applied, 'National Rail' seems to be a term applied willy-nilly to almost (but importantly, not quite) every passenger rail service in Great Britain. Unfortunately I can't remember which edition it was and I don't have access to them at the moment, but I suggest someone with access to copies has a look to check my memory... --Peeky44 (talk) 22:20, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
The related article National Rail Communication Centre has been nominated for deletion. Please comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/National Rail Communication Centre. Thryduulf (talk) 17:04, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Are non-franchise operators like First Hull Trains, Grand Central Railway etc members of NR? They're listed on the National Rail website, but then so are Heathrow Express, Eurostar and London Underground. Smurrayinchester 10:55, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
The article says:
I was under the impression that the infrastructure of the ex-LT part of the East London line was still owned by London Underground, rather than LOROL, even though they no longer operate any trains on it. That certainly makes more sense than transferring ownership to the private sector LOROL, whose expertise and capital structure are those of a train operator rather than a railway owner. Have I misunderstood/misremembered?. -- chris_j_wood (talk) 11:35, 26 January 2016 (UTC)