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This is not a reality show at all. The Twitter and Facebook accounts of the characters were made after/during the series. Coinsidance huh? It's not dramatized, since it needs to be reality-based to be dramatized. And it's not reality based. It's scripted and fake, like a lot of sources confirm. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.209.199.204 (talk) 13:41, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
Let me say this: THIS SHOW IS NOT A DRAMA/COMEDY/SCRIPTED SHOW. If you read any of the show's kids' Twitter pages, they answer this same question atleast twice per day. The scenes are REAL, with additions, such as voiceovers. If you've seen the episode where Lee stands on top of the car as a superhero, you know this was also added for dramatization. Also, the scene where Lee goes and beats up tiaras during prom season. Neither of those were her true decisions, they were added in. THIS IS A REALITY SHOW WITH DRAMATIZATIONS -- just like all reality shows. Now quit being kids, and stop the fighting. Just go to one of their Twitter pages or Liz Lee's Ustream, formspring, etc.
Do they really need their own page at this point? There are only 6 episodes.Allwham (talk) 03:50, 16 February 2010 (UTC) boredduuummmmm
This article is asinine in describing this amalgamated / " heavy preproduction" shit as an actual reality show. 67.177.253.227 (talk) 22:43, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
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Please change the show's description from American reality television series to American dramatized reality television series. The LA monitor has a credible article in which MTV executives explain the show's questionable "reality": http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb/14/entertainment/la-ca-monitor14-2010feb14 :
"We didn't set out to confuse people," said Dave Sirulnick, MTV's executive vice president of multiplatform, news and documentaries. "We don't look at it as just a reality show -- that doesn't capture it. We weren't going to call it a sitcom, because it's not...Filming began in summer 2008 and continued throughout the 2008-09 academic year, Liz's senior year, during which time the shape of the show evolved from conventional reality to this blended form.
Said MTV's Marshall Eisen, an executive producer of the series, "The rule was, when Liz is around other people, we played that as straight as we could. When she's alone, that's when we were able to stylize things more."
Each episode, then, is an amalgam. "I couldn't tell you a percentage," Eisen said. "It probably varies from show to show." The show's vérité elements were helped by "extensive preproduction," Eisen noted. "We had a lot of cameras in a lot of these places." (emphasis added)
I also propose that the show's synopsis reflect the quasi-reality nature of the show, or that a new section be added entirely. 141.161.127.75 (talk) 16:09, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Already done I untranscluded the template since this seems to have been done and the article is no longer semi-protected. Celestra (talk) 20:07, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
I don't know who edited my work on here but you are inhibiting free speech. I wrote this "More recent episodes have a very scripted feel to them. Rachel Book of Associated Content states: "The show more closely resembles The Office... a fake show about a group of people being recorded for a reality show. With several camera angles and cut scenes per shot, along with incredibly noticeable rehearsed lines and make up changes in the same shots - if you thought it was fake for a second, then you were right." " -AND- I added critical reception as OTHER shows have and that was taken down.Critical Reception - The Only TV Column That Matters™ states: Liz & Co.’s brand of “individuality” is so hipster clichéd that the “conformists” seem absolutely justified in shunning them. Hell, I’d rather hang out with the Jersey Shore morons." They cite the "Ironic vintage" T-shirts as an example. According to a few rankled commenter's on the YouTube preview video below don't buy it, either. "The reason we're mad is not her, but MTV itself. They staged everything, going as far as screwing with our prom by turning of the music and lights in attemps to make us fight. She was at my school for a whole year, never met her, but I sure got those damn MTV cameras up in my face enough to be mad. She's probably a nice girl, but who knows what MTV made her do for the sake of 'reality' tv." Some one who actually goes to the school states:"Well i live there. It's Burleson Texas and it looks nothing like that. They pretty much made Burleson look like crap but its actually a huge town. Such a fake show they filmed at my school" These are from IMDB! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.95.46.53 (talk) 00:54, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
This reality show was based on the real life of Elizabeth "Liz" Lee.
Can we quit deleting, redoing, deleting, etc with the characters? "good vs. evil"? really? i think we atleast need sully, bryson, and taylor on the list. --Taylorstatickid (talk) 05:42, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Not sure of Jezebel is a good enough source to include under critical commentary but she does gather lots of other sources, including a (dead link in her article) the unimpressed reaction from burleson (which seems to be reprint from Star Telegram). Maybe if someone else wants to work them into the article... -- Horkana (talk) 22:19, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Can we get the opinions removed from this? I was trying to determine if the show was real or scripted. One section would say it was real, while another would speak of opinions as if they were deliberately scripted. For example, the section under Cori labels her as "not the prettiest" and "extremely stupid." These are undeniably opinions that shouldn't exist in the description of a character who was not deliberately designed to be portrayed that way. As an unscripted show, opinions about the characters are not necessarily portrayed by the producers - at least not to the extreme of "best" and "worst" - and should not be included in character descriptions in the article. Just my two cents. -- Charles Stover 00:18, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Don't know how I didn't notice it before but the article markup has been a total mess for ages, and I've done a little work to clean it up. Specifically nearly all the reference names were the same. I tracked down the errors to a user called User_talk:Gabi_Hernandez but the talk page suggests a history of disruptive edits (might still be good faith edits but they caused problems). So please do try to keep reference names short and to the point, a word or two, not a full sentence. -- Horkana (talk) 05:02, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Is it just me or is this article written weird? It seems like it should be completely re-written.
Also, why is she referred to Elizabeth in this article numerous times and not simply Liz? Blsupr (talk) 21:47, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
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