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Kyuss (Greyhawk) was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 11 February 2017 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into List of Greyhawk deities. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
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On 18 Feb 2005, this article was nominated for deletion. See Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Pholtus for a record of the discussion. Rossami (talk) 07:25, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was to move it to its current title. Ben Standeven 02:46, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I will have to look this up, but I think Pholtus is listed as Lawful Good. Yup he is in the Complete Divine as a LG not a LN.
Would Orcus, as a Demon Prince, count as a Greater Power? According to the various books, demon princes and arch-devils don't generally count as Greater Powers.--Azathar 16:44, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
Do we really need two separate lists for generic and Greyhawk deities, especially considering most of the deities on the former page are rather obscure non-PHB deities? I believe List of deities of Dungeons & Dragons should be merged into this page and if nobody objects I plan to do just that. Would anybody find it useful to have a separate list of the PHB deities, or possibly some kind of markup for them? --Maggu 16:18, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Is this issue resolved yet? No one has said anything in a month. Can the tag be removed? BOZ
I agree with the statement made by another user:
Maybe a good starting point for a "List of Greyhawk deities" is the Living Greyhawk Deities Document. I think more "generic" Gods from Non-core D&D-products like Complete Warrior should not be on that list. I think, having two separate lists for "D&D Deities" and "Greyhawk Deities", which may have similiar entries might be a good idea. (Frank, May 8, 2006)
This issue is really a challenge to wrap your brain around, so I'm not surprised there hasn't been consensus on this yet. I think I would prefer to see the two lists remain separate, although somewhat re-worked. For me, the "List of deities of Dungeons & Dragons" page should list all deities for the current edition of D&D that are not FR or Eberron-specific. This would include the list from the PH, Deities & Demigods, and any other 3e and 3.5e publications that don't specify a different pantheon (Libris Mortis, Complete Divine, whatever). It would *not* include 1e/2e deities from Greyhawk or other sources that haven't been officially incorporated into the current version of the game (those currently listed in the article would be removed). The second list, "List of Greyhawk deities", would be more comprehensive as a historical archive list of all deities that have ever been introduced into the Greyhawk setting in whatever edition, ideally with an indication of the D&D publication(s) in which they were referenced as being part of the setting. My logic here is that the "List of deities of Dungeons & Dragons" becomes a quick reference for those folks interested in understanding the game as it is today, and the "List of Greyhawk deities" becomes a resource that wonky Greyhawk scholars and game historians can use as a true full-blown Greyhawk resource. Ok, I guess that's my 2 cents! Fairsing 06:04, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
A lot of these are not Greyhawk, this can be fixed by sourcing every single one. Dominick (TALK) 01:13, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
As a separate comment, I'm not sure there's a great problem here or that this article requires a frenzy of citations. I did a quick scan of the article, and the list seems legit to me (speaking as a 25-year Greyhawk veteran). The "Not verified" tag seems like an over-reaction. I agree that there's some value to citing the sources for each of the deities, but the situation doesn't seem so dire as to warrant that tag (implying that the information may be highly unreliable, which it doesn't seem to be). For example, Beory was moved into a "Non-Canon" heading, but she is clearly listed in From the Ashes as a Greyhawk goddess. Also, the headings "Canon" and "Non-Canon" are difficult ones to use here; I changed them to something more generic. There's no universal definition of what counts as "Canon," so using those terms is likely to cause some major disagreements; I recommend we stay away from those terms in this list. Fairsing 16:55, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
New question: How shall we separate 3/3.5 Canon from unused Canon. Do we just ignore the 2.0 muck up of lists? Should we divide sections separate? How about LGCS lists? Dominick (TALK) 17:28, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
I misspoke, 3e and 3.5 stuff is all canon. DnD 2e stuff is not. Pre 3e stuff should be separated. The references look good. I think the LG Dieties list 2.0 would be the latest and best mantained reference. I am going to use the <ref name="LGCS">[http://www.wizards.com/rpga/downloads/LG_Deities.zip Living Greyhawk] Deities 2.0</ref> and at the bottom insert a section ==Notes and references== <div class="references-small"> <references/> </div> so it is easier to source each one. Dominick (TALK) 12:15, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
I started with the text of this page for my Greyhawk cosmology page on my own MediaWiki site, however, I have expanded upon it rather significantly based on research through the Greyhawk published materials and other Web sources. If anyone wishes to use the information on that page, it's still under the GFDL (most of my site is CC-BY-SA-2.5, but pages which started with Wikipedia content are specifically noted and distributed under the GFDL). Of special interest would be the ordering by pantheon and the inclusion of the Olman and Touv pantheons. -Harmil 14:34, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
If someone has a good bot, the way to answer many of the where/how do we include this? could be solved by converting the information to a chart with appropriate columns (Name, spheres of influence, major/minor/demi, when introduced (when removed?), source of information, etc.)
Doing this manually would be a major pain, but could also be done. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.15.255.227 (talk) 21:20, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Following an AfD of Obad-Hai in June, in which a majority of participants were fine with the idea of merging the page here, I'm opening a proper merge discussion.
My original rationale for the AfD was that Obad-Hai fails our notability guideline for stand-alone articles in that it is entirely sourced to primary and affiliated sources (D&D game books and officially licensed publications), and has not received coverage from multiple independent secondary sources. Seeing how no edit has been made to the article since then, not even to add sources, my rationale still holds true and the article can't remain as a stand-alone, though there's certainly content that could be merged here.
Inviting all the users who took part in the AfD debate: User:User226, User:BOZ, User:TheRedPenOfDoom, User:Vulcan's Forge, User:Robbstrd, User:Jclemens, User:Colonel Warden, User:Sangrolu, User:Dream Focus, User:Hobit, User:Masem, User:Torchiest, User:Miniapolis.Folken de Fanel (talk) 16:24, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Paraphrasing what I just wrote at Talk:Saint Cuthbert (Dungeons & Dragons)#Deleted:
Now that Saint Cuthbert (Dungeons & Dragons) has been deleted, and redirects to this page, we have a circular redirect: the relevant subsection contains nothing but "((Main|Saint Cuthbert (Dungeons & Dragons)))
", sending the reader right back to Saint Cuthbert (Dungeons & Dragons)! En: has no information on this important (well, important in-world) deity at all! Could someone with Admin privileges please either restore the article, or retrieve the deleted contents, and move them to List of Greyhawk deities#Saint Cuthbert?
Thanks, Iustinus (talk) 17:44, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
There is a Main Article link for St. Cuthbert, but then that main article just redirects to here. Either the main article needs to be reverted back to a full article not just a redirect, or the information once contained in that main article moved here. Dragonboyjgh (talk) 01:51, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
We have the same thing for Heward. Jokem (talk) 23:09, 28 March 2020 (UTC)