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Talk:Lester B. Pearson/Archive1
I know that he was nicknamed "Mike" in the air force, but is there evidence that anyone ever called him "Michael"? I am fairly sure the nickname was always Mike. Josh H. Brown 23:03, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know where the name Pearson origins from? I first suspected it was a form of the Scandinavian surname Persson ("son of Per"). /Jebur 14:23, 5 August 2005 (UTC) The name Pearson is actually Gaelic. It does mean "Son of Peter". Over time it changed from the English version Peterson to the Gaelic version Pearson./[[Pearson Family Tree 1697–1987;circa 1987-Researched by Connie and Mae Pearson- Entry by Scott O. Pearson
We're going to go by the Greater Toronto Airports Authority on the official airport name: Toronto Pearson International Airport, even though some news accounts say Lester B. Pearson International Airport, which it was during Operation Yellow Ribbon. SNIyer12 13:18, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
Please DO NOT say that Paul Martin is no longer prime minister. Wait until Stephen Harper is sworn in on February 6, 2006 to say so. SNIyer12 17:42, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
OK, you can NOW say that Paul Martin served as prime minister, since Harper has been sworn in. SNIyer12 21:55, 6 February, 2006 (UTC)
Does this site need to be blocked from unauthorized edits from 209.226.48.226?? Although I giggled when I once saw (since censored) Squidward in place of LBP's portrait! Bacl-presby 00:49, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
I was recently doing a report on Lester Pearson. I found conflicting evidence about the exact date of his death. I found the 27th on this article and on the Nobel Prize Bibliography website. However I found the 28th on a government of Canada Biography website. I thought that the Canadian Government would know best but I would like some confirmation please.
It's not the the first time the Canadian Government has put the wrong date down--what do you expect from "uncivil" servants! Bacl-presby 00:22, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Maybe seperate a section for his accomplisments that made him most known and his failures? Just a suggestion.
I would suggest adding a reference to Mr. Pearson's contribution in writing the Charter and Treaty for NATO, in 1949. This was a singular piece of international diplomacy, especially given the different points of view amongst the allies about how to create an organization that could effectively counter the threat of aggression by the Soviet Union.
Tony 18:40, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
I feel like the fact that LBP helped establish peacekeeping should be more explicitly stated in the introduction. It gets referenced to but never explicitly, and I feel like this is a mistake. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pmorrow136 (talk • contribs) 06:34, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
5. Notwithstanding paragraphs 1, 3 and 4, a person who, prior to June 1, 1972, was a member of a British order or the recipient of a British decoration or medal referred to in this section, may wear the insignia of the decoration or medal that the person is entitled to wear, the proper sequence being the following:
Victoria Cross (VC) George Cross (GC) Cross of Valour (CV) Order of Merit (OM) Order of the Companions of Honour (CH) Companion of the Order of Canada (CC)
From The Honours, Flags and Heritage Structure of the Canadian Forces
--Ibagli (Talk) 03:32, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
I removed the link to the literature, it now appears to be infected with virii. --Ibagli (Talk) 02:57, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Maybe somewhere near the part where he's referred to as the "father of modern peacekeeping" there should be mention of Canada's role in the destruction of Indochina, particularly Vietnam, under Pearson. Specifically, where Canada remained officially neutral in the ongoing atrocities yet was the largest arms dealer (per capita) in the world, supplying the aggressors. Pearson did his part in helping to defend the aggression, warning the House of Commons about Vietnam's aggression towards the French as part of a worldwide Communist aggression, while allies France and the USA attempted to conquer Indochina (re-conquer in France's case). Pearson went further in his rally for the cause, claiming Soviet authority in the region, which turned out to be completely false, despite massive efforts to discover otherwise. It is widely accepted today that the atrocities committed in Vietnam and the rest of Indochina by Western nations was at the very least a colossal mistake costing many human lives and at most, attempted genocide. (Bzzhuh 04:45, 24 May 2007 (UTC))
So....categories for alumni have been added to places he received honourary (or honorary) doctorates from...Doesn't Alumni signifiy that they STUDIED there?? Bacl-presby 00:03, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Why are there flags in this article's infobox when none of the other Prime Ministers' articles have featured a flag icon? I have asked this question before in other forums. Does anyone have a reason for or against the use of the flag symbols in an infobox. Are flag icons in inappropriate locations not considered as per WP:FLAGCRUFT? Quote from WP:Flagcruft:"Not intended for birth/date places" "It may be tempting to use flag icons in the birth/death information in a biographical article's introduction and/or infobox, but this is strongly deprecated." "Not intended" is pretty clear as policy. Comments? Bzuk 00:20, 12 June 2007 (UTC).
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(Bacl-presby's comment copied to here from Amchow78's talk-page -- LW)
When recent Argos signee Mike Pearson wins the Nobel Peace Prize, and becomes Prime Minister of Canada, and gets daily wiki vandalism, perhaps then you can disambiguate LBP for this guy.....maybe the other way around for now!! (or if the Argos win the Grey Cup this year!)
Bacl-presby 17:31, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Every so often, I post on the Lester Pearson page, under "categories," that he was a "Canadian anti-communist" and "Cold War leader." While "Cold War leader" remains there, "Canadian anti-communist" is frequently deleted by other editors. Every single U.S. president since 1945 until 1993 (the beginning- to the end of the Cold War) (Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, and Bush) has, on their Wikipedia pages, the category of "American anti-communist" and "Cold War leader." Likewise, as Canada is a major player on the world stage, I think that it is wholly appropriate to list every single Canadian Prime Minister since 1945 until 1993 (Mackenzie King, St. Laurent, Diefenbaker, Pearson, Trudeau, Clark, Turner, Mulroney, and Campbell) as "Canadian anti-communists" and "Cold War leaders."—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nopm (talk • contribs) 23:37, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
I thank Bzzhuh for his support on this issue. However, after reading what Bzzhuh wrote about Pierre Trudeau being “pro-communist” because of his friendly relations with Fidel Castro, I think a clarification is in order. When the term “anti-communist” is used to describe a U.S. President or a Canadian Prime Minister, during the Cold War, the term was meant to exclusively mean anti-SOVIET communism; not to a general opposition to communism. If Pierre Trudeau was “pro-communist” because of his friendly relations with Castro, then it could also be argued that Richard Nixon was “pro-communist” because of his famous trip to Communist China in the 1970s in order to strengthen relations with Communist Chinese leaders (FYI: When visiting Moscow, Trudeau threw a snowball at a statue of Lenin; you don't throw snowball's at people you admire). However, on Nixon's wikipedia page, under categories, it lists him, like all U.S. Presidents from 1945 to 1993, as an “American anti-communist.” The bottom line is: Just because Trudeau and Nixon had friendly relations with some communists does not mean that they were communists or communist sympathizers. Quite the opposite: None of our Prime Ministers and none of the U.S. Presidents have been anything but anti-communists. So, even though Trudeau had a friendly meeting with Castro does not mean that he was a communist or communist sympathizer; just like how Nixon was an anti-communist, like Trudeau, despite meeting with Communist Chinese leaders. The term, as used in these articles refers strictly to Soviet communism. I can list many more examples of anti-communist leaders having friendly meetings with communists, but this does not make them communists/communist sympathizers/pro-communist: Reagan's meetings with Gorbachev, George W. Bush's meetings with Hu Jintao and with the Communist President of Viet Nam, Stephen Harper meeting with Hu Jintao, Pierre Trudeau's and Jimmy Carter's meetings with Castro, Gerald Ford's and Richard Nixon's meetings with Mao, Bill Clinton meeting (and shaking hands with) Castro at the UN, Pope John Paul II meeting with Castro, etc... None of these people are communists/communist sympathizers/pro-communists, they're all anti-communists and anti-socialists; they just happened to meet with communists. The meeting of two people does not mean that they both share the same views. Something else I would like to add, this time directed to Bacl-presby. How is it "opposing LBP" and "vandalizing this site" to say that Lester Pearson is an anti-communist? To all Canadian (and American)leaders, the title of "anti-communist" is a badge of honour, not something that is shameful. Now that I have added this clarification, do my fellow Wikipedians oppose me typing in "Canadian anti-communists" and "Cold War leaders" for our 1945 – 1993 Prime Ministers? Please advise. Thanks. Nopm 22:59, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Anti-Communist?? Joe McCarthy, and a couple of categories in his bio is the sort of lead perceived by that title during the 1950s, when LBP was at the UN, and as External Affairs Minister in Ottawa. (it was another Pearson who took a physical blow from Joe!) I think such a category puts too much "clutter" and tags onto people--BTW, whatever happened to the "Bow Tie Wearer" Category that once adorned LBP --he's still in the Wiki List of bow tie wearers. Bacl-presby 15:48, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Someone has just labelled LBP as SIR LBP...I don't think so!!
Mr. Pearson obviously has an inordinate amount of post-nominal letters, to the point where they look unwieldly in the infobox. Is it correct to list all the honorary degrees, or does one "LLD (hc)" cover them all? I'm unsure as to the protocol surrounding the use of post-nominals. --G2bambino 23:25, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
--Migration-- Didn't Diefenbaker eliminate restrictions of non-white immigration after being appalled by the South Africans at a Commonwealth Conference? Somebody should check the claim that Pearson removed restrictions on Jews and Chinese. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MacBiggles (talk • contribs) 20:29, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
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In the link here from Greatest Canadians, it says he was President of the UN Gen. Assembly. Not in the article. PonileExpress (talk) 22:57, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
There is a 1951 FBI memo identifying Pearson as passing on information to an unauthorized person while in Washington. There are many references on the internet to his being recruited by the Soviets while in Cambridge. Why is nothing of this being mentioned? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.138.4.251 (talk) 23:07, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
I noticed neither of these awards are mentioned in the Honours section or in prose at all... surely they should be? If nobody objects, I'm going to add them. -- MichiganCharms (talk) 04:31, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
Having been in primary school back then I recall the incident. But can a source not be cited for the incident and aftermath? What about Lester B. Pearson, ed. John A. Munro and Alex. I. Inglis, Mike: The Memoirs of the Right Honourable Lester B. Pearson Volume 3, Toronto: University of Toronto Press, 1975, pp.266-8? Masalai (talk) 00:26, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
I would not barge in with editorial alteration to the text here, but would it not be more accurate to mention that it was with the help and support (to put it mildly) of Tommy Douglas? Both were by nearly universal consensus great Canadians, for that matter in Person's case a world figure. But would it not be more accurate to attribute to Tommy Douglas what should be as to Medicare? Masalai (talk) 11:32, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
If it were the case that he had served in the Serbian Army, I would have expected him to have been awarded a Serbian campaign medal. He did indeed serve in Salonika, but this was alongside the Serbians. He did not enlist in the Serbian Army, this is incorrect.
The article behind this states:
'Among the many photographs, Pavlovic points out the one with four uniformed young men. One of them, originally Canadian, was a Corporal and a nurse in the Serbian army in the First World War. His name was Lester Pirson, and after the war he became Prime Minister of Canada and Nobel Peace Prize winner.'
The photo backs up the assertion that he served alongside the Serbs, but this is not evidence that he served in the Serbian Army. Keith H99 (talk) 20:09, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
Hello, the sentence currently says "He later also played for the Oxford University Ice Hockey Club while on a scholarship at the University of Oxford, a team that won the first Spengler Cup in 1923." without a direct citation. It's unclear from my reading whether the Spengler cup was during his time with the team or if it occurred afterwards (or if it occurred during his time there, but he did not participate). Do we have a citation for which one of those three happened, and if so, does anyone have a proposed wording to further clarify the section? 198.52.130.137 (talk) 01:27, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
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