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Was pretty sure before he became a psychic, Edwards was involved in some sort of financial scam that lead to fraud charges and perhaps even a conviction. Was this whitewashed out the article by fans? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.248.214.103 (talk) 17:13, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
Categories have been changed in accordance with the recent Arbitration on the paranormal, specifically 6a) Adequate framing, and Cultural artefacts. Martinphi (Talk Ψ Contribs) 22:19, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
So as not to introduce unsourced info - has any in-print discussion been made about the drastic format change of Cross Country in the second season? Willbyr (talk | contribs) 12:43, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Edward is doing a bit on his Cross Country show of 'contacting' a firefighter who died on 9-11. Lots42 (talk) 19:37, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Isn't it a bit much to call him an entertainer or psychic medium? I mean, is exploitation an approved form of entertainment? And giving him credit as an actual psychic medium - seriously? --Riluve (talk) 03:03, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
Well quite obviously he isn't a "psychic medium". But he is an entertainer. He performs his show for ratings, his shows standing is based on ratings, he could have a boring show on late night public television but he chose to be an entertainer.
Thats not really up for discussion, that hes an entertainer. Thats...well, what he does. That he may also believe his own lies or have a certain reason for what he does would not remove the fact hes an entertainer. Even shock jockeys are entertainers. To each his own I guess, even if theirs is remarkably ignorant. 58.170.134.254 (talk) 12:11, 20 February 2009 (UTC) Harlequin
As "psychic mediums" do not really exist, and are on the face of it frauds, I do not have any problem with the way it is worded. Clearly, any rational individual who reads "psychic medium" knows that that is a fake thing anyway. He clearly entertains mindless drones who want to feel better....so he is an entertainer. I believe a prudent and rational person can read the things that he is, and take from that what each means.
I've protected this for 3 days to stop a looming edit war. Work out issues on the talk page. — Rlevse • Talk • 21:47, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
It really needs to say "supposed" psychic medium. This page's existence diminishes everything Wikipedia stands for. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Burr Pie (talk • contribs) 04:05, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Somebody keeps changing 'medium' to 'television personality'. Now i know that most people don't believe that he has genuine abilities but either way he styles himself as a medium and ommitting this is very obviously point of view. And even if you believe that all mediums are fake, then where is the harm in calling him one? Phallicmonkey (talk) 17:56, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Then why not rewrite the introduction including medium in the opening? 'Television Personality' serves no real purpose except to perhaps please skeptics who don't like to see him labelled a medium. And i will take you up on the offer, although there is hardly a neutral way of putting such a thing. and it may be sourced, but what value does this really have if the information is still biased? Phallicmonkey (talk) 23:15, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
I think that the recent edit is finally an acceptable middle ground. As long as the 'medium' isn't left out, it is not too biased (at least not AS biased as it was before). But the new edit will suffice, and i think that it is the closest to a consensus that we will come to. And as you may have noticed, i did attempt to discuss this on this very page, but it is only when the above comment was made that any discussion had taken place. Thanks Phallicmonkey (talk) 17:39, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Since people seem to think it's ok to call him a medium even though it is not verified simply because he claims that and because you can't prove him wrong, then I suggest they also edit David Koresh's article. I mean, you'd have to list "messiah" or "incarnation of Jesus" into the lead, wouldn't you since you can't PROVE he ISN'T and he did claim it, right? Someone explain to me the difference.
Or, since Kim Jong Il claims to be a god, we should put "Kim Jong Il is the Korean leader and a god" in the lead, right?
Moral: Just because someone claims to be something that you can't disprove, doesn't mean wikipedia should have to list him as such; I'm changing it if there's no response to this entry.SuperAtheist (talk) 17:20, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
This happens about every 6 months... a John Edward fan finds his Wikipedia article, and starts kicking up a stink about this or that. Now someone has tagged the entire article citing non-POV and factual accuracy, without any word of explanation or justification. If no explanation is forthcoming in 3 days I'm removing the tag. JQ (talk) 02:38, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
He styles himself as a psychic, so it is not up to us to make assumptions regarding this, the facts should be presented. And the facts are 1) He describes himself as psychic and 2) This should be adhered to regardless of personal bias, otherwise the article is fairly useless as a source of fact, but is rather used as an oppurtunity for skeptics to get their viewpoint across. Phallicmonkey (talk) 18:33, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Monkey, if you want to tag the entire article, you should put your specific criticisms on the talk page so individual parts can be discussed. "it's all bad" without going into detail makes the tag pretty useless. --Minderbinder (talk) 13:50, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Personally, I don't think that Edward's claim to be able to talk to the dead is inherrently untestable, but like most people in his industry, he doesn't show a lot of interest in falsifying his claimed powers so it amounts to the same thing. I just said that his claims aren't supported by scientific consensus. I don't think anyone can really argue with that point and that's really all you can say about people in Edward's line of work. Gregory j (talk) 16:20, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
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Originally: Readings in Crossing Over involve Edward questioning audience members with what is presented as information being communicated by their deceased friends and relatives. Edward says he receives images and clues from "the other side" which the audience must assist him in interpreting. Aside from questionnaires filled out prior to taping, the audience is not supposed to supply Edward with any prior information about themselves, their family or whom they are trying to connect with "on the other side".[8] Audience members respond to Edward's statements and questions, adding any details they feel are appropriate.
Change to: Readings in Crossing Over involve Edward presenting audience members with information being communicated by their deceased friends and relatives and asking them for "yes" or "no" confirmation and validation of that information, but sometimes receives more information than requested, which he often clarifies as information given to him by the audience member and claims he can no longer use that piece of information as validation. Edward receives and interprets information through clairsentience (clear feeling), clairaudience (clear hearing) and clairvoyance (clear seeing) in which he feels, hears or sees images in his mind's eye from the other side which the audience must validate as pertaining to them. Edward has no prior information about audience members, their family or those in spirit with whom they are trying to connect.[1]
--I've seen John Edward live and there are no "questionnaires" that people fill out. John Edward does not "question" audience members, he presents them with information and then asks them to confirm the information. I've also added the three "clairs" which Edward uses to receive his information. -- bigcaat - Aug. 21, '09 (sorry if I haven't done this exactly right. I've not done this 'talk' thing before.)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigcaat (talk • contribs) 06:33, 22 August 2009
Not done: Welcome and thanks for wanting to improve this article. One of the key principle in Wikipedia is presenting information with a neutral point of view. In this case, that means neither accepting nor rejecting the claims made on the show, but presenting them as being the claims made on the show. Rewording it as you suggest would accept and promote what is widely held as being false. Also, we do not allow original research, like your having seen the show live, and prefer verifiable reliable secondary sources. The current sources for much of this article are interviews and the shows themself, which are primary sources, but can at least be verified and used in a limitted way. Please read the linked articles to learn more about these policies. Celestra (talk) 16:49, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
Should his appearance(s) on QVC (peddling ostensibly blessed jewelry and such) be included? George Lee 07:10, 9 September 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by GSpastic (talk • contribs) Could the 'verifiable secondary sources' be sited in this article? As I too have been to see the live shows (I am actually a rational, logical sceptic)and there was definately no questionaires or similar prior to the show. I just want to know how he does it, read up on cold reading but it just doesn't add up. So regardless of personal belief this is a very, very interesting subject. People should keep an open mind, this life holds infinate possibilties!
"So whether it's in a physical vehicle or not, there is still the ability to connect [...] But she's clear on what's going – and I can tell you that she's definitely clear on what's happening now around her."[27] Edward was criticized for this statement because Schiavo did not have proper brain function at the time.[28]"
Does it matter that the complaint is that she did not have proper brain function at the time? This is a man who claims he can talk to dead people who don't have a brain in the first place, let alone brain function. I'm not saying I believe Edward has psychic powers, but it just seems like a silly criticism. You might as well criticize the fact that he thinks he can talk to dead people. ScienceApe (talk) 17:59, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
---He didn't say he could talk to her, he said she was "clear on what's happening around her," while all medical science would lead us to believe she could not. Or, at least that's the criticism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.230.177.238 (talk • contribs) 06:01, 12 November 2009 UTC
John Edward appeared in an episode of South Park series (6x15) being nominated for the Biggest Douche In The Universe award.[2]
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was invoked but never defined (see the help page).I've edited the lede to say that Edward is a "self-described psychic medium". This should be acceptable to both sides of the controversy, no? 209.105.199.39 (talk) 20:51, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
I periodically edit-out the change to calling this Edward character a professional and will continue to do so as it is a slap in the face to every true professional out there. Even a call girl can prove what she does is based in fact. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.28.103.214 (talk) 02:55, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
So obviously this conversation hasn't continued on the Talk page, but once again the lead describes Edward as a "professional self-proclaimed psychic medium," presumably by the same argument that Antar and others are making above, that he "makes a living" as a psychic-medium. But I do not remotely agree that it's factual that he makes his living as a psychic. As was also stated in a previous discussion on this matter, if Edward's job is to maintain ratings and/or seat count for his shows, to entertain enough people to keep the crowds coming, then he's making his living as a stage performer and TV personality, NOT as a psychic-medium. Plus the use of the words "professionally" and "professional" in the same sentence is entirely redundant. Also, Edward hasn't had a regularly running TV show in several years, and now seems to be focusing on stage tours. So unless someone has a source that confirms that Edward makes more than half his income from private readings - which would suggest he "makes his living" as a psychic - shouldn't the lead read something more like this, "known professionally as John Edward, is an American television personality, stage performer and self-proclaimed psychic medium." CleverTitania (talk) 19:05, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Dreadstar I have readded the reference without the blog citation. Sgerbic (talk) 04:30, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
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Dreadstar what do you mean by a "bridge too far"? I have no idea what you are talking about. Is this one of those inclusive WP editor terms that shuts out newer users? Your "talk" page says you are not editing WP and on a break so I am asking for clarification here. Sgerbic (talk) 02:08, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
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I removed a lot from the see also section. Most of it was not relevant to John Edward beyond his being a medium. Per MOS:SEEALSO, I think more of a connection is needed, as the section was too long and most of the entries would not be part of a comprehensive article on the biographical subject here. I kept two entries that were about TV shows, as the first description in the lead is "television personality". – wallyfromdilbert (talk) 23:31, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
One purpose of 'See also' links is to enable readers to explore tangentially related topics; however, articles linked should be related to the topic of the article" and then provides three conditions for what is considered relevant. Can you please explain how your interpretation would make sense if any biography could have dozens of "see also" entries based purely on their profession? – wallyfromdilbert (talk) 03:32, 27 December 2019 (UTC)