Needs expansion and editing. A significant portion (as on Nov 5, 2004) seems to be more suited to "Indian military history". I am unable to devote the time needed to do this now. If no one wants to take it up, I'll tackle it in few months' time.
i think this article seems a little biased...for example, india "seized the opportunity to weaken its long time foe" ...one could as easily say india "acted quickly to aid the displaced citizens of east pakistan and stop the massacres." ...maybe it is just me...
@ Zain engineer
Yes but India and Bangladesh share a common border, India and Sudan do not. While India posessed the force deployment capabilities, it can be argued that there were countries better equipped and closer to the region that could have done the job but instead, they chose not to. The U.S. being the world's police force could have easily sent troops to Sudan but they did not. I agree though that India did have other intentions when it liberated East Pakistan. I believe though that India's main reason in helping to liberate East Pakistan was because of all the Bengali refugess pouring into India. At the time, India was barely able to feed its people and thus was in a way, forced to declare war if only to prevent its people from dying of starvation.
Yindu Raja is not a problem for India. Nor is a Muslim Raja. Being a secular democratic nation. The Middle path away from religious fanaticism and anethism, India choose secularism. The president of India is a Muslim, Prime minister is a Sikh, Leader of opposition is a Christian and Hence being a secular nation, home to all religion, no one can claim parts of India in the name of religion. Claiming that some lower rung officer did not heed the order is telling lies. Jinnah had the power to sack him and sent him to jail. All men fighting were Pakistani men and not the British. Jinnah is responsible not only for dividing the nation in the name of religion but also for all the hostility that continue even today. Chanakyathegreat 11:54, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Do you know that Indian peacekeepers are serving under the U.N flag in many parts of Africa and even in Lebanon. Peace never means inactivity and impotence nor aggression and madness. India never sent a peacekeeping force against LTTE or the Government of Sri Lanka. The main objective of the peacekeeping force is peace enforcement. The war against the LTTE started after the suicide of their cadres and the subsequent attack on the Army that followed. The refugee from Bangladesh is still because of poverty in Bangladesh. There is no genocide going on there at present. Even though the terror activity has increased, it is in the hands of Bangladesh government to act to save Bangladesh from becoming a terrorist nation. The firt explosion is called a peaceful explotion to make it clear that the weapon will not be used offensively (no first use policy) and is for defensive purpose to maintain status quo with other nuclear powers. No need to send an army to Nepal since it was solved politically and helped in the restoration of democracy in Nepal. Today the answer for the question has the creation of Bangladesh helped India? is yes. As Harpar said India don't have to deal with a Terrorists from two fronts. Chanakyathegreat 05:13, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
In this article it claims the INA was a predessecor to the modern Indian Army. Besides Bose and a very few students recruits, most of the INA were considered traitors after the war and NOT allowed to serve again in the Indian military or militaries. Thus, while the INA is an offshoot of one of the predessecors, is it truly a predessecor of the MODERN Indian Army? What traditions carried over? TaylorSAllen 03:07, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Not by Indians but by the British, the Indians greeted them with due respect and the restrictions were made by the British army. The INA soldiers were considered retired personnel and given due respect and they got state pension and other provisions enjoyed by retired soldiers. Many traditions like the song Kadam Kadam Badaye Ja is marching tunes of the Modern Indian Army. Chanakyathegreat 13:45, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
I would think you mean British Indian Army. They proper British Army never had massie garrisons in India. Also, it should be noted that a single song is not much of a carry over, and pensions, while homage, are still not passed on traditions. If the INA is added as a predecessor, shouldn't the proper British Army be added as well? It left quite a mark, much more than the INA. I will admit I am biased on this, being the only American Jingoistic Tory today, so please give me the other side of the issue. TaylorSAllen 21:53, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Talked with Haphar on my User talk: TaylorSAllen and we agreed that British Indian Army should be replaced with Army of India (with specification of being from the later Raj, perhaps? That would also mean the removal of the British Indian Army, as it was an integral element of the force. Also, I would say personally that the INA still needs to be removed. Haphars evidence demonstrates this. 69.137.202.138 21:21, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Just in case my linking to my own user page wasn't enough, that IP is me. TaylorSAllen 21:23, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Even if there is a single tradition being passed on, INA becomes a predessecor. It must not be restricted to regiments, there are ideologies etc that are passed on like this “Good leaders show greater than average willingness to take risks and engage in unconventional actions to attain their goals”. ___Netaji Subash Chandra Bose
Source:[1]
Chanakyathegreat 14:31, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- Yet another Grammar Nazi
The Indian Army is so large that it has devoted several corps to the striking role, making them one of the most powerful non-NATO armies. ???
Dude(tte?), making them one of the most powerful Non-Nato armies? Making whom one of the most powerful Non-Nato armies? ... the Corps? Or do you mean the Indian Army?
I'm not contesting your point - just the grammar. It is a bit confusing, you know. Try replacing 'them' with 'The Corps' or 'The Indian Army'. Unless, you mean the Indian Army Corps. But then you mentioned 'several Corps'...Some clarity here?
--getkashyap 20:14, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
Another grammatical issue, this time it is purely order but, in the side template Indian military history is the first link, followed by the various military forces and the the Army day. Shouldn't the former be in a position post the center and the latter? TaylorSAllen 21:25, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
My poor Indian friends! Your army is a large army? Don't make fun again and again. Do you know what is the appearance of India in the world? It's an elephant. It looks big but so weak. Only a mosquito can bite him and blood. A mouse can kill him. I think most Indian haven't gone abroad, so they don't know what is the changs outside. They think there is a floating drome can make them powerful. It's shortsighted out and out. Your floating aerodrome is only a target in the Indian sea. it's so weak that only a common Pakistan anti-ship missile can smash it easily because the technical of the missile is from China. I forgot the time of the war between India and China Because it is a such unimportant war of China. In this war, our army chased the Indian army till to we can see the light of Bombay. I heard this story of an old soldier who attended the war. He said it was so surprised to him that they didn't meet any fight back before they received the command of returning back to China. The India army like a homeless dog. What puzzled to the old soldier is the India army is so stupid to displease China firstly. I think the India don't know the result of the hit between a egg and a stone. My poor Indian friends! Where is your Arjun tabk anf LCA. They are armed now. Even the Russian Su-35 and Miger-29 are export to India, it is no matter for China. Because you can not produce them. If you destroied one, you are lost one. Please go to Chinese website to see the new type fighter J-10, J-11. The new submarine, new Zeus shield warship, and they are all made by ourselves. Don't delired US will help you. I think US will not so stupid to help an inessential country. US makes friends to you because he want to use you. The India is only a chessman of US. Don't forget the war years ago. If you forgot, we will give you a new lesson, a serious lesson. Do you know why the Chinese army stopped aggressive in the situation of drive straigt in to India. I tell you. The reason is Chairman Mao said India is a wild country, it is so difficult to administe him. Let him be. If we want, we can take back easily.
Phew!! Just finished expanding the 1965 war. Did the 1947-48 one earlier, but will have to return to expand it a little more. Will get down to the rest later but some help on the 1971 war would be appreciated. And the equipment section does need some expanding and editing too. Could someone...? --Tigger69 August 21, 2005
The evidence that the Chinese offered to talk to the Indians and the Indians imposed such serious preconditions that there was no way the Chinese could accept is well documented. See Neville Maxwell's India's China War for instance. And clearly the Chinese could not withdraw from AP because (a) it did not exist then and (b) the Chinese dispute the ownership of this territory. If the article is to be neutral it cannot take sides over who rightfully controls the NEFA. Lao Wai 11:15, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
Anyway, to cut to the chase: Maxwell's book is an excellent one, and probably the most highly regarded. I would have to agree with most of what Lao Wai is saying - atleast on the broad legalities. China - specifically the PRC of Mao - did not sign this agreement, and therefore did not recognize the MacMahon line. It did not for a lot of other borders too. I mean, it almost went to war with the Soviet Union over their common border!! the PRC's record there is not quite as spotless, but that's understandable, considering the immediate revolutionary past and its starkly repudiatory leanings, and needs. In Aksai Chin, China did ingress militarily on clearly disputed land and build roads to 'secure' Tibet, about which it was - and still is - extremely touchy. India should have looked to negotiate and pressed harder for that, but Menon apparently assured Nehru that the Indian Army, manned by his hand-picked stooges at the time, would be able to 'throw out' these interlopers from Aksai Chin, if need be. They were assumed to be border guards and not the PLA. And nobody in India foresaw the speed at which China would 'go to war', if thats the best phrase. Negotiating and playing hardball on such issues is something India has still to come to terms with. NEFA is trickier and the question as to why China covets it strategically leads to open season for all manner of expert opinions. :)
IncMan, Aksai Chin was never really 'in' Indian hands, but that doesnt mean it belonged to China either, LaoWai. The two countries should have thrashed it out on a table, even if it took decades, not slugged it out on those barren stretches. And one of them should'nt have taken it upon themselves to irrevocably change relations between the two nations.
--Tigger69 22:50, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
Idleguy 18:50, August 22, 2005 (UTC)
NEFA and that Aksai Chin was captured during the 1961 War. Okay, according to this report, China withdrew its troops from 70% of the captured area in the NE but it doesnt say that China withdrew its troops back to positions held before Oct 20. I do agree with Lao that Nehru misjudged China's military abilities and that the war was evitable had Nehru sticked to his words. --((IncMan|talk)) 01:19, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/26/international/asia/26india.html
Tigger69 26 August 2005 (UTC)
I saw it last night. Pretty amazing, although I would like to see the full transcript. Not that it has much influence on this article - it was in early 1963, not late 1962. Lao Wai 10:00, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
Read this. Its quite amazin Nixon came up w/ such remarks against Indira Gandhi. --((IncMan|talk)) 20:14, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
Edited the statement on sino-indian war to reflect a neutral POV. The supply line statement is speculation. India did not mount much of a defense during the 1962 war, mainly because the prime minister of India had gutted the military, so even if China had stretched its supply lines there was no evidence that India could have mounted an attack. Nehru even publicly hinted that he had given up the Northern areas that China had taken, much to the chagrin of the people in those areas. the people who are trumpeting the supply line argument are mainly on the Indian side. More balanced statement currently with clarification in text for the reader.Mano1 06:24, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
India does have soldiers in sudan by the way as UN Peacekeepers (indian provides the 3rd largest peace keeping force in the world).
Narasimhan
Should we have all the war, internal ops and other awards section ? Haphar 13:19, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
We should move certain sections of it to other pages.
iafguru 18:47, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
My point the Hony Lt and Capt differ in no way from the regular Capt and Lt. Only issue is they are not paid. the Hony Lt and Capts dress exactly the same way as the regular capt and lt and they get exactly the same perks (access to officers mess, saluting etc).
In addition there are ocassional ranks like Honarary Colonels . Some heads of institutions of Vetenary colleages where there is an NCC unit are Hony Colonels. All Nepali Army Chief of Staffs who visit India are given the rank of Honarary General of the Indian Army. In the Air Force, JRD Tata and Singhania are Hony Air Commodores. iafguru 15:49, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
The statement that a field MArshall is made only in the times of a national emergency is wrong. Cariappa was made a field marshall in 1983. Even Maneckshaw was made after his retirement. Haphar 17:36, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Since Original Research is not allowed in wikipedia, this word British-Indian Army should be changed and also the the wiki article of the same name.-Bharatveer 04:37, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
--Incman|वार्ता 21:20, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Should the Army's sporting forays be included. Every time in the national games or other games like Hockey etc. the Army sends its team/contingent. Even Athens Silver medallist Rajyavardhan Singh Rathore was from the Army. I was wondering if that angle could be added? Idleguy 14:59, 3 February 2006 (UTC) hgvjbk,mk There are many such things that surely need to be added like the All women Everest mountaineering team etc like the ones added in the Indian Navy section. Chanakyathegreat 13:48, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
I suggest to remove this section entirely because of its POV title. That these people are war heroes should become apparent from their biographies, not because they are listed in this section. The mention of the words war hero is just as superfluous as the adjective evil is for Hitler. Errabee 13:47, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
The procurement section of the document seems to be copied verbatim from a report by IDC. The language is inappropriate for a wikipedia article and contains POV remarks such as the following:
The following story should also be deleted or at least heavily edited: "The converted and refurbished aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov free but with a refit priced at $500 million, which will host a N-010 active phased array fire control and surveillance radar, a 13’ ski ramp and arrestor aircraft recovery system. The decision is far gone and chances of back tracking seem remote but Indian Defence has seen many dramas and media hypes it up. IDC adds: when a senior Air Force officer asked why the nation needs a carrier a young Naval officer said, “Sir you know where Hindon is.” He said of course. He politely asked, “Sir can it move.” and the senior IAF officer said, “don’t be stupid.” Then the junior officer asked, “Sir, do you know where INS Viraat is, and where it will be tomorrow.” The senior officer was furious so the junior said “ Sir, we need the carrier because it is the only airfield that can move and support the Navy,” and that in simple terms is the short answer."
11:29, 9 March 2007 (UTC) Roy
I read somewhere that the APS (Army Postal Service) employs assistants in the initial rank of Warrant Officer. Is this rank specific to the APS or is there a wider use in the Indian Army. And in terms of hierarchy, is this rank between Havildar and Naib Subedar? --LONDON 21:44, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
can anyone tell me , wats the need of adding the names of the GOC ?? i mean why we indians are so obsessed for seeing our names ! i think as indian army is an entity that comes under the parliament and hence all generals are the servants of the government of india ! so there is no valid point on putting there names , also the posts are dynamic nt static ! only the war heroes names should be posted irrespective of their ranks or the officers who have shown extra courage and bravery in peace shuld be mentioned . its totaly rediculous to put the names of GOC . —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.83.184.143 (talk) 20:34, 6 May 2007 (UTC). --68.83.184.143 20:41, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
can someone do anything about the vandalism on this page?? I tried, but couldn't. Cheers. Sniperz11 11:35, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Can somebody who knows please add to the article (or just answer here). What is the common working language of the Indian Army? Is official army communication, rank names, unit names, etc, in Hindi or English? Jason75 18:21, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
I cant site source but common working language(when it comes to paper work)is english. Orders, when verbally given are mostly given in hindi-english mix. While sending signals/telegrams or road signs/marking roman script is primarily used but the signs may include devnagri too. however I havent seen an exclusive use of devnagri as a script. In some cases the name plates on troops uniform can include both roman and devnagri script. even the motto of a regt. or corp. is most likely to be in hindi but transliterated to roman. You must have noticed that medals given have mixed bits e.g. SM, sena medal, UYSM uttam yudh seva medal,etc. In Medals though you might see exclusive use of devnagri. HTH, Armybrat 05:53, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
There is a vandal who has been repeatedly removing Captain Haneefuddin from the list of PVC winners. Please keep an eye. CHeers. Sniperz11 09:34, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
a)it's not PVC winners it's PVC recipient. b)Capt. haneef-uddin recieved a veer chakra,Please don't add that name back again. Armybrat 16:01, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
there are missiles of different missions from an ATGM to a ballistic missile. when everything from rifles to tanks are mentioned in seperate categories and why are all missiles mentioned in a single table? I am classifying them according to their missions or type.
Tunguska can be classified as SAM System and also as Air defence artillery. because it has both guns n sams. So its better if we have airdefence systems in a seperate section.
i have reverted it back to original page. All i have done is removing the table for missiles, because why table for IGMDP especially when we have already an article on IGMDP.
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I have created this template when i found many Armies have description of their Arms & Services while IA Doesn't. Do I need to make any changes.
Its becoming very hard to find info about Indian Armoured Corps except the list of Armored Regiments involved. But nothing much is availaible about Armoured Corps, They have played very important role in wars like 1965 but infomration is there. Infantry Regiments are far popular by the heroism they displayed in almost every war, So a lot of info availaible abt them, but does anyone have with Armoured Corps and their units Ajay ijn 16:44, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
Source:[3]
Active Main Battle Tanks - 62 Armoured Regiments • T-90S: 5 regiments @ 62 tanks each, (310) plus a further 1330 tanks being locally assembled (not completed). • T-72M1: 35 regiments @ 55 tanks each, (1950) upgrade program in progress - moving very slowly. • T-55: 10 regiments @ 55 tanks each, (550) with L7/105mm gun + the Vijayanta standard upgrade. • Vijayanta: 11 regiments @ 72 tanks each, (800+) upgraded with FCS and night fighting equipment.
Reserve/Store MBTs • T-55: 200 - To be phased out by 2008 • Vijayanta: 1000 - To be phased out by 2008
310+1950+550+800+200+1000=4810 4810+5+12 Arjuns=4827~4830
Anything missing? Chanakyathegreat 15:11, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Indian Army equipment [4] Chanakyathegreat 13:05, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
T-90 Bhishma [5] In February 2001, the Indian Army signed a contract for 310 T-90S tanks. 124 were completed in Russia and the rest are being delivered in 'knocked down / semi-knocked down' form for final assembly in India. The first of these was delivered in January 2004.
So 124 in Russia + 186 in India= First order for 310 tanks.
Jan 08, 2004 report [6]
By April 2004- 80 tanks. By April 2005- 100 tanks~106 tanks. The order for 310 tanks complete. By April 2006-??? From April 2006-April 07 100/year production.
So the current strength is 410+ T-90's in service. Chanakyathegreat 14:13, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
[7]In July 2006, Defence News reported that the Ordnance Factory Board was awarded a US $2.5 billion deal to produce 1000 T-90S tanks for the Indian Army. The order is being carried out in phases, with the production of the first 300 examples having already begun in June 2006.
HVF has already handed over the first batch of 181 of these 300 ordered.[8] Chanakyathegreat 12:07, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
More T-90's. 347 T-90's.[9] 120 in one year. As per the agreement, the remaining 227 tanks will be delivered within two years in semi knocked-down condition. Chanakyathegreat 13:17, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Arjun
Report Apr 26, 2005 [10]
The HVF would deliver 15 tanks before the end of this year. Its aim is to deliver 124 tanks by 2007-08
[11]Report On Oct. 13th 2006 The first 15 tanks of the 124 have already been activated. Of the remaining 109 tanks, the Indian Army is currently putting the first five tanks from the production lines at Avadi, through accelerated build quality and reliability trials. The intent is to verify whether the Arjun production has stabilized, with the requisite quality and performance requirements. Upon successful completion, the remaining 104 tanks will be manufactured in batches. The planned production rate is currently pegged at thirty tanks per year, with the Army requesting fifty per year as the ideal. The Indian Minister of Defence reported that the Arjun was slated for full scale production soon. He also stated that five tanks had already delivered to the Indian Army and 23 were ready for delivery.
October 2006 15+5 Arjun tanks=20 tanks +23 tanks ready for delivery. October 2007 20+23+30 tanks/year=73 Arjun tanks October 2008 73+51 (50/year Army request)=124 tanks 50+/year onwards. Chanakyathegreat 14:42, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
By October 2007 20+23+15 tanks=58 Arjun tanks Chanakyathegreat 16:40, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Where does the Defence Security Corps fit in to this article? Shijaz 14:44, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
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At the moment it reads "The Indian army has projected a requirement for a helicopter that can carry loads of up to 75 kg" surely this must be wrong.KTo288 (talk) 23:29, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
this article clearly leans too much towards the indian side the forced accession of hyderabad is named as liberation of hyderabad and the fact that the issue was already under un scrutiny is totaly ignored pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese rewrite or delete this article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.102.54.63 (talk) 15:32, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
The rank of Lt. Col. has in no way shape or form been removed from the military heirarchy of India. Such disinformation is quite undesirable! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aspuar (talk • contribs) 05:18, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
There appears to be a typo under the section "The Kargil Operation in 1999". it reads, "Heavy damage was inflicted on Indian army, particularly its Northern light infantry". The Northern Light Infantry actually belongs to Pakistan Army. Comments? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.158.93.1 (talk) 08:33, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
the article says that the Indian Army has the third largest number of active troops in the world, but the list that is linked to from that statement says the Indian Army has the most active troops. I'm going to assume that the list is correct and change the article. If this is wrong, please revert.--Alhutch 00:24, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
You got it wrong. The Indian Army is the second largest army after the Chinese PLA. [12] Chanakyathegreat 15:20, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Indian army is the second largest army in asia and the third largest in the world. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.167.217.107 (talk) 17:33, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Second largest army in the world and third largest armed forces in the world.Chanakyathegreat (talk) 16:40, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
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I have edited this article today, mainly changing grammatical mistakes and reframing sentences. I have not changed any factual data here.
Triviabot (talk) 05:51, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
no mention of IPKF and op-pawan ? can we cite sources from bharat rakshak and indian army's website?
i think citing recources from the indian army website isnt fair after all its bound to be atleast a little biased like if one were to cite resources from the iranian army website we would be lead to believe that its stronger than the united states armed forces lol so no recources from there --Pak Genius 08:43, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
for example there is a section entitled liberation of hyderabad i would advise u look up this topic in some oxford published reliable book i mean man give me a break who would call the invasion of a sovereighn state by another countrys army liberation the formal complaint that hyderabad had launched to the UN was still to heard when indian troops stormed the state and dismantled the state machinery if the indian government was so good it should have waited for the un decision —Preceding unsigned comment added by PakistaniGenius (talk • contribs) 15:50, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
--Perhaps if you used sentences to communicate, people would understand what the heck you're babbling about. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.11.50.141 (talk) 15:19, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
The liberation of Hyderabad couldnt have been carried out had the people of Hyderabad not supported the Indian Cause. They were fed up of the Nizam's autocratic Rule. You should learn more about the movements started by the Hyderabadi people to get more representation in the state affairs which was flatly refused by the Nizam. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.99.99.53 (talk) 16:32, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Under the heading Recepients of the Param Veer Chakra, Major Shaitan Singh is wrongly mentioned as Havaldar Shaitan Singh.
Major Shaitan Singh was the CO of C Company, 13 Kumaon Regiment which fought the Chinese army at Rezangla.
Thanks,
Ajit S. Datar —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.183.53.114 (talk) 16:16, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Now that each corps has its own article,I suggest that the divisional information of Corps be moved to the respective Corps page so that the article clutter reduces. --Vinay84 (talk) 05:05, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Please note that the Official Indian Army Site has grave errors. It was Skandagupta not Chandragupta Maurya who was much earlier who defeated the Huns. Also A portrait of Maharaja Gulab singh has been referred to as Maharaja Ranjit Singh.
SEE: http://indianarmy.nic.in/Index.aspx?flag=LfcULYFlbeQ= Bold text —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.88.88.173 (talk) 17:33, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Why do we have the Hindi transliteration in this article? What is its significance? Sarvagnya 18:15, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
It is not a hindi translation. It is sanskrit in devanagari. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexsoddy (talk • contribs) 23:34, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
I created today the military OrBat graphic of the Indian Army: commons:File:Indian Army Structure.png. The problem is that some of the independent brigades mentioned in the article are listed in the Indian Army#Corps section. In all 10 Artillery, 5 Infantry and 1 Parachute brigades and the 2 Independent Air-defence Groups are unaccounted for. On the other hand there are 2 Armoured Brigades to many in the Corps section listed. Can anyone clarify/check/help with this problem. Thanks in advance, --noclador (talk) 14:39, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
OK, I have updated the man-power of the Indian army using an existing source, but it seams editors on this article have in the past abused W-RS and edited their own fake figures. Lets hope that stops. Recon.Army (talk) 14:55, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
Before the post 1962 expansion, both India and Pakistan avoided common numbers: India took 1, 4, 5, 17, 19, 20, 23, 25, 26, and 27 Divisions; Pakistan took 6 (later disbanded), 1, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 14, 15. After the 1962 War India went ahead to backfill numbers: 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14, 15, 36, 39, 54, 57. Pakistan responded with 6 and 11. After the 1965 War they added 16, 18 and 23. Then in 1971 they added 17 and 33, and as deception formations they raised 36 and 39.
After 1971 India added 16, 18, 31; Pakistan reraised 9, 14, 16 lost in East Pakistan, and added 19. Between 1976 and 1984 India went on to add 21, 22, 28, and 29, Pakistan added 40 and 41. By 2000 Pakistan added 2 (artillery division), India added 40 and 41 Arty Divs.
Pakistan is now supposed to have 25 and 26 Mech Divs, they are actually armd divs and have different numbers. No one I know has been able to figure out why in peacetime they would use deception numbers. Buckshot06 (talk) 04:01, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
In the Devanagari script it is written as Sthalasena with the same spelling in roman. Actually, in Devanagari, the S is neither there nor it is pronounced that way. Thala means land or earth in Sanskrit and Sena means force. I dont know how to change Devanagari Script. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.195.4.24 (talk) 15:41, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
I second this. The spelling is Thalsena and NOT Sthalsena. And the same goes for devanagri. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.19.237.34 (talk) 10:33, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Under the head of the Siachen Conflict (1984) there is this particular line: " In 2004, Indian Army was spending an estimated US$2 million a day to support its personnel stationed in the region."
This is a minor piece of wrong information provided. I checked the link provided along with it [citation no. 32] It is the original article which states that the figure is clearly for a month. I suggest it be edited as soon as possible.
Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.125.213.30 (talk) 09:54, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
((edit semi-protected)) The picture with the title 'Indian Army soldiers arrive in Korea in September 1953 for peacekeeping along the neutral buffer zone' is not a photograph of soldiers at all. It is a photograph of toy/model soldiers. Please remove this.
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there needs to be a special forces section in the article about Indian Army special forces the Para Commandos and the Ghatak Force --Honorprevails123 (talk) 23:13, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
"Indian Army T-90 tanks take part during an exercise in the Thar Desert" This image file when seen on Flickr is perfect but in wiki page its rotated left.I couldn't find how this happened but opening this picture full screen its orientation is correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srinivsn (talk • contribs) 19:43, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
How come Logistical problems are well noted in just about every operation in the history section, but the problems they have today, such as eating expired food http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Indian_army_eating_out-of-date_food_999.html , are skipped over? Hcobb (talk) 00:46, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
Under the Indian Army Staff and Strength section, there is mention that the Indian Army has 1500+ aircraft. This is obviously a mistake, could somebody please add the appropriate number ?
Thank you.
Removed any unsourced material from that table. Cheers. TalkWoe90i 09:24, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
What's this stuff with Indian Army having 62 ICBMs? Our longest range missile Agni-V is not even operational yet right? -- Anurag2k12 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:03, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
I had sourced and added the numbers of troops a bit earlier, but it was reverted. Why? I have at least two sources confirming that. -- Anurag2k12 (talk) 13:54, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
There is an uneasy imposition of political views into what should be a factual account. For instance the statement that: "1.3 million Indian soldiers served in World War I (1914–1918) for the Allies, after the United Kingdom made vague promises of self-governance to the Indian National Congress in return for its support. Britain reneged on its promises after the war, following which the Indian Independence movement gained strength". Indian nationalist sentiment should not influence statements of fact.203.184.41.226 (talk) 05:16, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
The picture of a Sikh soldier removing Nazi flag,May I ask are Sikhs a separate people from Indians?And are only Hindus Indians?Sikh is a religion,so the Sikh soldier this term is not right,I change it to Indian Sikh soldier.Ovsek (talk) 12:22, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
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@TalhaZubairButt: the section is about Indian Army operations against Nizam's forces in Hyderabad not about the reports of committees that states events happened in the aftermath of Operation Polo. While I told you not to give WP:UNDUE weight there and refer to Communal violence during and after the operation section of the main article, while instead of going through my edit summaries, you kept on doing blatant reverts? this is the thing to be written in the Operation Polo (already there), You don't understand? You also violated WP:3RR (can be seen here: First, Second and THIRD). Thus, I suggest you to do a self-revert and discuss the issue here. And, please make yourself familiar with WP:BRD and how this is done. MBlaze Lightning (talk) 13:20, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
This information was restored by @FreeatlastChitchat who is of the opinion that this information is highly relevant here.
Also if we look at the pages of other armies, including the Pakistan Army page, atrocities committed by them have also been included. So there is no need to make an exemption for this page.TalhaZubairButt (talk) 22:02, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
@MBlaze Lightning: The mass killings and rape of Muslims of Hyderabad are an integral and deserving part of this sectionn and this section is supposed to be a summary of the main page. So yes a few sentences about the atrocities committed against Muslims by the Indian Army can be included because it is one of the major standout points of the Operation Polo. And I have not included higher estimates of Muslims killed, I have only included the conservative estimate from the Indian committee report. Furthermore razakar atrocities on Hindus have also been incorporated to balance the information. Furthermore, @FreeatlastChitchat (a neutral admmin) believes that the information is relevant.TalhaZubairButt (talk) 22:25, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
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Hi CorrectionLab 3000 Please discuss here what you would like to add here. Currently, in my view what you are editing is not mentioned in the sourced provided. It is synthesis and WP:OR on your part. Please discuss your edits here. Thanks. Adamgerber80 (talk) 03:47, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
I just wanted to gauge whether users would approve of Pakistani claims on destroying 500 Indian tanks during 1965 war be added on this article? Considering Adamberger80 believes this rule should apply to Pakistan Army page which contains Indian claims of 471 tanks being destroyed should there not be balance? We should also have Pakistani claims plus neutral claims of Pakistani losses why is this so hard to swallow? Hranday8 (talk) 10:37, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
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Poorly source and not enough to have it's own article. Better off in the main page. Adamgerber80 (talk) 17:51, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
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This page could be improved: there are a number of citation omissions that have not been updated. Furthermore the research has not been done for many years now on this page as on so many others. I don't mind doing it myself, but in my experience there are jealousy rules amongst Wikipedians who like to hoard page achiever statistics for themselves, when they should be caring more about the Quality of the webpage. So many pages also display semi-permanent or permanent dead links. I could do this; but again the problem seems to be that there is a 'bunfight' to seize ownership of a page. In particular the table on this page headed Combat Corps needs to be completed so that the Indian Army can be proud of its page at last! 46.208.150.110 (talk) 19:36, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
I've seen it, in just these recent edits, given as "Corps of Electronics, Mechanical & Electrical [Engineers]" and "Corps of Electronics and Mechanical Engineers". We need to settle this somehow. I think I've seen it both ways, depending on whether you're consulting a Wikipedia article or one of the Indian army's own websites (where they might have it both ways). However, we should develop a consensus for what's best, based on what is most representative of sources. Dhtwiki (talk) 22:41, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
I think you guys should move the History of the Indian Army since 1947 to a new page. This article is quite long as it is.
I looked at the Israeli Defense Forces article and then decided to move the History of the Pakistan Army to a new page.
Just a suggestion
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I agree```` 123.201.100.253 (talk) 11:35, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
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The link to the Parachute Regiment in this page seems to link to the British Army Paracute Rgmt.? Also, the links to Guard, Grenadier Rgmts link to disambiguations that don't even mention the Indian Infantry Rgmts of the same name — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.85.161.62 (talk) 04:53, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
I am copy pasting all the contents in the section "Equipment" to a new article. Later we can remove the content from IA article completely depend on what everyone will decide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajay ijn (talk • contribs) 17:27, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
The information about the sub-units of the III Corps needs to be verified. In
See this edit by a non-confirmed editor awaiting approval. I think the location spelling change is correct but don't want to edit the article until the issue of the 56th division status as an Infantry division or Mountain division is verified in a reliable source.
Whatever is verified as correct, please check III Corps (India) to make sure it is correct as well. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 17:47, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
IAF & IN have a dedicated page for weapon systems but its not with IA. It Should be created as the information is lengthy. And Structure of Indian Army can also be in a new page what do you guyz say? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajay ijn (talk • contribs) 13:00, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
Hey, Thank you for choosing talk page to have a talk. We do have page for List of equipment of the Indian Army which has all list of equipment of Indian Army. Though that page needs more effort to make it better. If you could help, you are always welcome. Cheers Brown Chocolate (talk) 14:22, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
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This had to be added. How can you forget this regiment??? One more thing, can someone help me with the picture? Its too big. 129.127.32.138 (talk) 05:39, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
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Edit 1: Please expand the list in the "services" section to the one based on the more detailed and sourced list in Women in Indian Armed Forces#Summary table of commission by corps. I have just created that table.
Edit 2: Please pipe Indian Army Dental Corps to the article/draft (click on the redlink). I have just created that article draft.
Feel free to review/enhance. Thanks. 58.182.176.169 (talk) 15:38, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
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thumb|Thiyyar Soldiers of The Thiyyar Regiment in The British Indian Army
Can you addd this photo in history section ?
This is from Thiyyar Regiment — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.222.169.10 (talk) 07:05, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
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Hindi is not the national language of India. Just keep the motto in English. 122.164.134.51 (talk) 00:38, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
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You hadn't added the Nathu La and Cho La clashes (commonly known as Sino-Indian war of 1967). Can you please let me add that? Kumar Nandish438 (talk) 15:14, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
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Noticed that there is lack of understanding regarding Hakenkreuz and Swastika being totally different symbols with totally different meaning. Request members to watch video of discussion in the Canadian Parliament to understand the difference between "Swastika" and "Hakenkreuz" and make sure that we call "Hakenkreuz" by its name rather than try to call it by another name. Rollingtanker (talk) 09:09, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
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Formatting correction. In the Other ranks subsection of Rank structure, correct the first colspan from 10 to 22, second colspan from 12 to 6, and third colspan from 14 to 8. It is to conform to the correct order Template:Ranks and Insignia of Non NATO Armies/OR/India. 117.230.87.26 (talk) 14:33, 30 November 2022 (UTC)