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A fact from Ian Begg (architect) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 15 February 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Lightbursttalk 04:06, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Created by Kj cheetham (talk). Self-nominated at 12:34, 2 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Ian Begg (architect); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]
All the online sources refer to it as a "tower house" rather than a castle. Gatoclass (talk) 08:00, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good point; could potentially argue a tower house is a type of castle, but don't want to get into WP:SYNTH. To be honest I was partly based it on being featured in the a chapter called "Castles in the Modern Age", but even that doesn't explicitly refer to it as a castle. I've tweaked the article and added ALT1. -Kj cheetham (talk) 11:08, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2 looks good, however, nowhere in the article does it say that he worked on the "restoration" of castles, only that he "worked on" them. Gatoclass (talk) 15:51, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just tweaked the article, hopefully for the better. -Kj cheetham (talk) 16:18, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Everything looks good now. ALT2 is more informative so let's go with that one. Well done! Gatoclass (talk) 09:28, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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I will review this one. I remember his name from an article about a castle. Bruxton (talk) 17:49, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Bruxton thank you for your review! I think I've addressed all your points below so far. -Kj cheetham (talk) 20:20, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Grammar
Y Lead - needs to be developed, and should be a summary of the article; as of now it is insufficient.
Done. Is it better now?
Y Body "Ravens' Craig tower house castle in Plockton, Lochalsh was designed by Begg and built from scratch" Please find another way to say that built the house- from scratch seems colloquial.
Is "from the ground up" better?
Y Body "Afterwards, when he was 22," suggest we remove the word "Afterwards"
Done.
Y Body "was an adviser for National Trust for Scotland, and vice president" needs a determiner like "the" before National and "was" before vice.
Done.
Y Body "complete with winery" suggest you add an "a" before winery
Done.
Y Body "to aid bringing logs to main hall" suggest a determiner (the) before main hall
Done.
Y Lead should remove citations from the lead per MOS:LEADCITE - FYI it is already cited in the body
Done.
Y "The main hall is 5 m by 7.27 m, with the size dictated by a triangular" use conversion templates like 5 m (16 ft) and 7.27 m (23.9 ft)
Done.
Y Body regarding the Ravens' Craig section. We need to say when the Tower House was completed or built.
Done.
Y We should also see if we combine these single sentences into the paragraph.
Done by you I think?
Y £750,000 an inflation calculator might be helpful here (equivalent to $1,370,677 in 2023) note-the year is incorrect in the conversion I randomly put 2006
The figure is from 2022, and the inflation template only works up until 2021 it seems. I have though fixed it to say £725,000 rather than £750,000, to align with the source.
Y since the architect's website is dead, we should probably remove it from the infobox
Done.
Y Awards section "He retired in December 2009" was already stated above in career section.
Removed.
Reviewer edits
Hope you do not mind - I edited the Bio section and created two sections, and also copyedited parts.
also edited the Castles and other buildings section
combined a few lonely sentences in sections
All looks good to me, thank you!
Images
Y they appear to be correctly licensed and relevant.
? Image Please consider adding a non-free image of the person to the infobox.
Done. It's my first time ever adding a non-free image, so I hope I've done it correctly!
I will fix it up a bit! He is a handsome fella and the image is great! Bruxton (talk) 20:51, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Citations
Y Early life -Number 3 is accurate
Y Citation 2 is not really RS but is useable as WP:ABOUTSELF - keep in mind that it cannot be used for self-serving claims.
Y Career Citation 5 is correct
Y Career retirement is supported by citation 2 - uncontroversial
Y Castles section "Begg designed the Scandic Crown Hotel, Edinburgh in 1988–89" is supported by the citations
Y Citation 19 checks out
Y Citation 20 checks out
Y Citation 22 checks out
Y Citation 23 checks out
Thank you for the edits. I reworked the lead a bit. But I think we need to expand the article based on the obituary below.
Y Seem like quite a bit of info in this source (number 23) in the citations. I archived the link and it looks like he had been married with children. I suggest a personal life section after Ravens' Craig. Move his retirement and death to that section but start with his personal life and marriage. Bruxton (talk) 01:26, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Bruxton I've expanded the personal life section a bit and added a further reference. -Kj cheetham (talk) 17:35, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have performed some cleanup and organization to the article. I also added a quote from him about his house.
Y My checks of citations show that the sources with the exception of the "about self" source called out above and the Legacy.com article appear to be quality and accurately support the prose. The Legacy source is attributed to the ScotsmanBruxton (talk) 19:23, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you again for your help with this. -Kj cheetham (talk) 19:33, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
Yes
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
The article and layout are significantly improved. It was a pleasure to work with you.
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