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I personally think that this should not be merged into Super Bowl XLII. This is the greatest play during the most watched Super Bowl ever.
As for a "suggestion," I suggest the name "The Clutch Catch." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.65.185.42 (talk) 12:38, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm proposing that this be merged into Super Bowl XLII. Granted the play was significant, but for the time being it's still too early to say for sure what is going to mean more in Super Bowl lore: that one play, or the drive (converting on 2 3rd downs and a 4th). DrFishcake (talk) 10:29, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Good grief. There's another article up on this same catch, under The Catch (2008). Do we move to merge all three, or wait until the first two are straightened out? Snowfire51 (talk) 08:42, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
This is one of the most useless articles on Wikipedia that I've ever seen. Anytime there's another discussion on merging or deleting this bullshit contact me.--WhereAmI (talk) 19:22, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
What do you guys think the name of the play should be?I've read some great names people posted on yahoo answers like..
The Giant Connention,The Slip and Grip,The Great Escape(even though this doesn't pertain to Tyree's end of the play,it's still a great title),The Miracle,The Imperfect Play For The Perfect Ending(even though this is A great name and perfectly explains the play,it is entirely to long) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daverich313 (talk • contribs) 11:06, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
I agree,I havn't heard a official name or nickname from any notable source,we should just leave it simply as "Eli Manning Pass To Tyree" and whether this will be football lore....uhmmmm I don't know,it will be for sure to Giants fans,but will just have to wait and see,but This play was extremely significant for multiple reasons,everyone was almost certain that patriots were going to win and no one thought the the giants had A chance at 1:15 and miraculously manning escaped and it almost looked for sure that Manning was sacked and then he throws the ball and Tyree leaps in the air and BARLEY catches it and holds onto against his helmet,the play was amazing and not just the play it,but the unbelievable win.the video plays on youtube total well over 1,000,000 and this is only 2 days later and I've already seen the replay on multiple sports news shows over 20 times.We have definitely witnessed history guys. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daverich313 (talk • contribs) 23:18, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
An article that you have been involved in editing, The Catch (2008), has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Catch (2008). Thank you. Endless Dan 14:30, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
That's what I believe most people call them. Many media and NFL.com says the play is Eli Miracle —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.174.131.233 (talk) 20:50, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
Youtube took down the video claiming NFL copyright and that's probably going to be the case for any video that's put up there that isn't from the NFL's website. There, however, all I could find is clips of the whole game and not the play itself. Kika chuck (talk) 17:00, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Is there a good reason to believe this play will become known as "The Catch" hereafter? I ask from the POV of maintaining the disambiguation page The Catch, to which one of the three articles on this pass has been added. --Sturm 19:56, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Basically, Torc2 said what I was coming over here to say if it hadn't. We need to be aware of a possible future need to move this page to a new title once it gets an established name. Kurt Weber (Go Colts!) 04:18, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
The fact that after nearly 5 months, theres is still no good name for this catch is good evidence that this play, though impressive, is not anywhere near the same echelon as other great moments in NFL history (e.g. "The Catch", "The Immaculate Redemption," "The Drive," and "The Music City Miracle.") —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.47.35.39 (talk) 00:49, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
I feel the names of the catches are highly lacking in WP:NPOV and are only named the way they are, only by the media, to over-exaggerate the importance of the catch itself. It is obvious that a lot of them are not common names and may be one-off titles presented in the media. For example, ESPN uses three of the ten names, from what I see: "Slip and Grip", "Hail Manning" and "The Helmet Catch". Obviously these are not common names, they are only used once, and they are from the same source. Were it a common name, the same souce (in this case ESPN) would have refered to it each time as the same name. The same thing can be applied to New York Daily News, as they refered to it as "Catch 42" and "The Great Escape". Even the NFL themselves do not refer the catch as the same name, they call it "Flee to Tyree" and "Double Miracle". For those of you keeping count that is seven out of the ten names given in this article that are not notable. The other three are "The Desert Miracle" (WFAN interview, I'm guessing that is a radio network), "The Play" (Albany Times) and "David and Eliath" (The Jimmy Kimmel Show). What are the qualifications of notability for this section, that they have to be said on television/radio/film and somebody liked it? Absurd, we'll be having an exhaustive list here soon of names some talk show host or sports anaylist called it. Can anyone find a name for the play that was repeatedly refered to by the media? If you can, please add it to the article with references, preferable non-copyright violated references; links like the YouTube ones provided on the article are inappropriate. For the time being though, I am removing the section as there is no evidence that is shown to me that any of the names are substantially significant or that have shown to be a common name given to the catch. — Κaiba 11:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
I've been in conversation via OTRS with someone who claims to have trademarked the phrase "The Helmet Catch." A search of the USPTO trademark database confirms that it is indeed a registered trademark, so I've added a note to that effect. howcheng {chat} 20:38, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Tyree himself refers to this play as the Miracle in the Desert, as it is the name of his official website. Is this enough to get the article moved to Miracle in the Desert? --Savethemooses (talk) 22:44, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Should this play be listed at National Football League lore? RC-0722 361.0/1 20:25, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
It's been over a year, and still there is no consensus on a nickname for this page. It seems like every week someone else comes by with a nickname they heard somewhere, but as far as I can tell there is no universal nickname for this play. I'll bring it here for discussion, is it time to stop adding nicknames? If there isn't a solid name for it at this point, is there anything encyclopedic to be gained by keeping track of every single nickname spawned from the lack of universal consensus?
As an aside, I've reverted "The Giant Snatch" twice this week as unsourced, and a dubious one at best. Dayewalker (talk) 23:26, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
LOL, it hasn't been anywhere near a year yet... --70.180.90.29 (talk) 21:22, 23 December 2008 (UTC)Steve12992
THIS PAGE MUST HAVE A CONTROVERSEY SECTION TOO BE PARTIAL BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN A LOT ATTENTION DRAWN TO MIKE CAREY'S PHANTOM SACK CALL. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.19.222.119 (talk) 00:38, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Great, another stupid conspiracy theory... --Steve1299270.180.90.29 (talk) 21:24, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Found as winning name in Newsday Poll--Bulbakuki (talk) 07:16, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
I disagree that this page should be merged with Super Bowl XLII. This is the greatest play of the most watched Super Bowl of all time, and is key to one of the biggest upsets of all time. Some of the plays which have made it into NFL Lore have not been this instrumental.
As for a suggestion for a name for this play, I personally suggest "The Clutch Catch." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.65.185.42 (talk) 12:35, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
I find it amazing that the name of the play is still in dispute. I remember how everyone at the bar where I was watching the game immediately refer to it as the "helmet catch." This name is clearly the most natural, whereas all the others had to be made up by sport journalists afterward. If you talk to any football fan today who had seen the game and say "helmet catch," they'd know immediately what you're talking about. Do a search for "helmet catch" on Google and almost every single match refers precisely to this play. People really do try too hard. The simplicity of "helmet catch" is what honors the uniqueness of this one play. There will be other great plays in a stadium in a desert. There will be other clutch catches. In our lifetime we will probably never again see a player making a critical catch against his helmet in the Superbowl. If this helmet catch is not "the helmet catch" then what is? I mean, it's like calling "The Play" the "Great Grizzly Train Robbery" or something tackier. In time, I trust "helmet catch" will become the term of choice. I'm really just commenting on this for the record. Chernyshevsky (talk) 02:23, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
The play was named "Play of the Decade (2000s)", called "The Double Miracle (at 4:24)" and "The greatest play in Superbowl history (at 5:04)" in this NFL Films video here.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-presents/09000d5d8163c627/Play-of-the-decade 60.242.169.170 (talk) 03:40, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
- So should we rename this article 'The Double Miracle' now? Not sure if NFL Films counts as a good consensus, but its better than nothing right? MethMan47 (talk) 21:24, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
This ESPN article details it in depth.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/feature/flash/_/id/6034867/super-bowl-xlii-moment-time
as well as this one:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2010/news/story?id=6011037
I have seen numerous rejections of an attempt to an include a reference to the holding activity of the Giants line (especially Shaun O'hara. The no-hold call is a common topic when discussing the history of the play, and to leave it out ignores a major line in the narrative history of the play and it's pivotal role in the game. I am happy to call it something other than "controversy" if that makes sense to people, but the automatic deletion of anything referencing the fact that the play was not received universally as fair seems to draw undue censorship. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theungry (talk • contribs) 17:20, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
I think that this needs a better name. Helmet catch has about 16 million hits, and they point to this play. Swordman97 talk to me 23:29, 12 August 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swordman97 (talk • contribs)
As noted in my edit summary for the move, it's now been 7 years since Super Bowl 42 and after this amount of time, the general public/news media overwhelmingly refer to this play as the Helmet Catch; a fact backed up by the section above me from August 2014. I don't think this move will be controversial, but if you don't like it for some reason, please leave a message either here or on my talk page. I haven't been editing very much lately, but I do check my talk page at least once a week and I will be checking this page periodically for a month or two. Thanks. Thingg⊕⊗ 13:36, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
Doesn't this page sort of fall under this because it is an entry that is about one play (a great one) of that Super Bowl. So the subjects aren't notable for one event (maybe Tyre) but the premise of literally 6 seconds of time for an entry that is longer than so many other notable figures?--MattyMetalFan (talk) 23:01, 26 March 2017 (UTC)