According to his biography (http://www.ibiblio.org/gutenberg/1/0/0/3/10030/10030-8.txt) He was born 1845 not 1846 -- --Harno 23:51, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC). check
This article contains both the following statements -
"Contrary to popular belief Cody was not destitute, but his once great fortune had dwindled to under $100,000."
"Buffalo Bill was actually in debt at the time of his death[citation needed] which is why the word "defunct" used in the second verse is so effective. "
Clearly one or the other is false. Attention to detail people. One needs to be removed —Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.203.42.50 (talk) 09:21, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
My great-great-great-great uncle Buffalo Bill didn't claim to have scalped a Cheyenne warrior,he Shot and Scalped the Cheyenne Chief Yellow Hair (mistaken as Yellow Hand)in a duel, but when i changed on his page it reverted as vandalism. WTF? Read any book on him people!
you are wrong zoe, he was born in 1846 not 1845. look at another dictionary. a real book, and not a website, ok?
Buffalo Bill's only known biography that he wrote does say that he was born in 1845. Who are you going to believe, a text book that was so wrong that it could have said It wasn't Custer's fault for his death, or the man himself who this page is about? Bcody 13:11, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
What's that 8 supposed to be? --71.112.94.131 00:44, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
removed from article "Bizarrely, evidence suggests that Buffalo Bill was the official guest at the opening of a shooting club in Urmston in the United Kingdom. The club has since been demolished to make way for housing." whats bizzare about it...its seems like a non-sequitor
The dates don't work. Buffalo Bill launched his Wild West in 1883, according to this article, and Wild Bill was shot dead in 1876.
He was never in the Wild West Show. Wild Bill did perform in plays with Buffalo Bill. Wild Bill was known to play pranks on the actors, and after one night Buffalo Bill told him that he had to stop or he would be kicked out. Wild Bill left in the middle of the show. A few days later Buffalo Bill found Wild Bill in a bar and Wild Bill apologized. Wild Bill then went out west where he was shot in 1876. Bcody 13:11, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
It is alledged that both William F. Cody and James Butler Hickok might have been "very distant cousins". This has (is) been researched, but at this time, it is nether disputed nor verified?
71.106.215.70 (talk) 04:12, 3 October 2008 (UTC)Aedwardmoch71.106.215.70 (talk)
This dude's related to me! Seriously. He's dead, I know. But he was my relative. I swear. —The-thing (Talk) (Stuff I did) 15:33, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
He's related to me too!! My famous ancestor!
Some of my ansters came over on the Mayflower in 1620 ...... & I'm a pinch of native Americans....... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.132.177.100 (talk) 23:01, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
I have a very interesting newspaper article sitting here withme. I learned a few weeks ago that Buffalo Bill served along side my great-great-grandfather in the 7th Kansas Cavalry Regiment and I have a very very old newspaper article from when he visited my great-great-grandfather... Any suggestions on how to / if to add it. I also have some other information I might add.--Azslande 08:17, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
I have no source available, but on a British programme QI, it announced evidence that actually, Buffalo Bill slayed bison, not buffalo, due to the obvious problem that there were no buffalo in North America at the time! Unfortunately, nobody could tell the difference. This is all well and good, but without a source, I ought not put it on the page, unless it were in a rumoured section. Unless anybody else can find out the same thing? Alex Holowczak 18:26, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
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Stating that a buffalo is a bison and visa versa does not make it so --
Popular culture might have adopted that name in local parts of the world, but, as one came to be named before the existence of the other was known, and as the two are barely remote cousins despite both being included under a large group of hoofed animals that also includes antelopes and goats, calling the American bison a buffalo does not make the bison a buffalo -- or the buffalo a bison -- unless one would argue that the water buffalo can equally be called a water bison -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.147.235.94 (talk) 04:47, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
The long digression at the end of the article about William Eve, another "Buffalo Bill," belongs in its own article, not in the article on Buffalo Bill Cody. I would move it myself, but there are no sources cited, so I don't know if it is factual or not. Anyone know about Buffalo Bill Eve? Plazak 13:50, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Moved from the main article - might qualify if it is cleaned up and sourced - CosmicPenguin (Talk) 23:45, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
At another time a man came to the Cody home with a gun and knife and demanded that Mrs. Cody fix him dinner. As he was waiting he told the poor woman that he had come to kill that "damn abolitionist husband of yours" and where was he? Mrs. Cody said he was not at home and she was not likely to see him soon. Waiting for his meal he sat and shapen a knife while drinking whiskey. Mary Cody took William and his sister Julia aside. Isaac Cody was up stairs sick in bed. She told the two children William 8 years old and his sister Julia about 10 years old to get a gun and an ax. If the man started up the stairs William was to kill him with the gun and if he missed Julia was to get him with the ax. The two young children waited on the stair. The Man at his dinner and after falling asleep he woke and left, stealing the Cody's horses as he went.
It was a myth that Sitting Bull ever came to England. Buffalo Bill in Liverpool. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by CosmicPenguin (talk • contribs) 21:02, 4 May 2007 (UTC).
There seems to be no mention of his hunting here. I thought that the huge number of bovines he slew was what he was best known for. Epeeist smudge 08:29, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
I think that too. He slayed huge numbers of buffalo, and yet there is no mention of this here. Shouldn't we look at both the positive and negative side of this man? 81.151.74.90 (talk) 22:09, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
i couldn't believe it either as i read this article. how on earth can this issue remain unmentioned? it's the same in the german version. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.47.149.208 (talk) 10:18, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
"Buffalo Bill" earned his name as a result of his skill as a buffalo hunter. It is a matter of "quality", not "quantity." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.133.140.5 (talk) 18:27, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Removed "Currently his descendants Sean Soltys and Benjamin White attend Southington High School in Southington, CT", an utterly unimportant detail, from the Legacy section. Sean Lindsay (talk) 23:51, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
I removed the paragraph about the Wild West Show at Disney Village. While it shares elements with Buffalo Bill's show, it seems to me to be a re-creation of a western show, which isn't that unique. The same exact text was added to the Disney Village page, and I think it works better there, anyway. The section was added by User:Earlycreek which is also the name on many of the posts on the URL posted in the article, so there may be a tad bit of promotion and WP:COI. I can be convinced that something should be added back into the article in a condensed form if somebody would like to try. CosmicPenguin (Talk) 22:20, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Response from Earlycreek:
I understand your position regarding the paragraph I added to the Buffalo Bill page. I take your point that the wording could be construed to have promotional elements and COI, especially considering I do have connections with the show in question (more below) but I think inclusion of all or most of the text may be justifiable regardless. Please allow me to explain my thinking:
My original intent was to add information about the show to a Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show or Wild West Show page, where it might have been more appropriate, but those links all point directly to Buffalo Bill so I didn't have that option.
I suggest that two separate pages may be more appropriate to correctly document the two subjects: one for Buffalo Bill and another for Wild West Shows. My argument is that Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show was the precursor to many other Wild West Shows and arguably was largely responsible for creating the romantic myth of the American Cowboy that went on to become the basis not just for Western Cinema but for the underlying cultural movement that defined and in many ways still defines The American Male. The marketing genius of Ned Buntline and W.F. Cody and the impact of their efforts should not be underestimated. I feel that in emphasizing the impact of Buffalo Bill as opposed to other notable people of his era (Wild Bill, Custer, Doc Holiday, Jesse James, etc.) it's important to emphasize the enduring impact of his Wild West Show. Noting the existence and enduring success of Disney’s reincarnation is important in providing that emphasis. To not mention Disney’s reincarnation would be to discredit the enduring impact of Buffalo Bill’s Wild West Show legacy.
Although I understand your assumptions, I argue that Disney’s reincarnation is not just another Wild West Show. Firstly, Disney purchased rights to exploit the name and script of the original "Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show”. Apparently the branding genius of W.F. Cody and Ned Buntline was not lost on Michael Eisner, who rightly recognized that money spent on securing the original name and script was money well spent. Disney’s production appropriately reflects the grandeur and authenticity of the original: it is permanently housed in a building designed by famed architect Frank Gehry, was directed by Broadway Director Robert Carson, has a musical score written by Oscar-winning composer Alan Menkin, and so on. To my knowledge, no other existing Wild West Show remotely compares.
And lest the Disney brand be misleading, a stark difference separates the polished, tassle-hanging, line-dancer-type performers which you might assume would define a Disney treatment of Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show, and the rough, raw, reality of our show. Our cast includes authentic Rodeo Cowboys, Indians, horses, bison, and long-horn cattle imported from Wyoming, Colorado, Texas, Alberta Canada, Mexico, and so on, off ranches and Indian Reservations. Some of the original Crow Indians in our show didn't even speak English. I, for example, was born in Sheridan, Wyoming, raised on a ranch, and spent my teenage summers packing mules and guiding hunters and fishing expeditions in the most remote part of the lower 48 states, in the Bridger-Teton Wilderness west of Cody (not completely unlike W.F. Cody). If one considers that “Buffalo Bill” the Ned Buntline creation was a mythical character based on the real experiences of a real personage of the West, one could argue that he still exists to an extent (I portray Buffalo Bill in Disney’s production). Others are at least as authentic as me. Our Sitting Bull is a Crow Indian who was born about 10 miles from where Custer was killed. Another cowboy spent last summer and fall in the same Wilderness area I was in as a teen. Some of our Native Americans perform traditional songs and sacred ceremonies backstage, beyond the public eye, as a part of their culture to mourn deaths and to celebrate certain events. These types of backgrounds, while not universal, are fairly typical among our cast.
While your comments regarding promotion and COI may initially appear justified, my motive for submitting the paragraph in question was founded not in my connection to the Disney production but in my personal connection to the lifestyle, history, and landscape of Northern Wyoming, where much of the story of Buffalo Bill’s Wild West Show unfolded and where I was born and raised. I feel explaining the enduring impact of Buffalo Bill’s legacy by mentioning Disney’s production is important in defining the man and his influence on our world’s culture.
Perhaps another editor’s wording would seem less promotional but still convey the importance behind the fact that Buffalo Bill and his show still exist in an incarnation that very much evokes the spirit, energy, and authenticity of the original. Earlycreek (talk) 01:23, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
In <YEAR>, Disney purchased the rights to the name and script of the original "Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show" and created a re-enactment which plays at Disney Village in Disneyland Resort Paris. The show attempts to faithfully recreate an authentic experience, including many of the famous elements of the original show such as the Pony Express, Indian Attack, and Stagecoach Robbery.
I agree with your comments. On my end, I will try to find some Disney contacts to help verify my assertion regarding the rights to the show. I think a substantial article could be written regarding the Wild West Show based on it's relationship to modern-day Rodeos and the romantic myth of the Cowboys, Indians, and the American West that, as you mention, drives much of the tourism industry in the West. 82.249.36.237 (talk) 00:02, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
The riders in fact were Georgians, from the western part of Georgia - Guria, and not Cossacks as it is considered. They were wrongly named "Russian Cossacks" , as Georgia was part of Russian empire then. I wonder why there is still incorrect reports about that matter, as it was documentary proved long time ago. For more information see - www.georgians.ge. Kind regards --Rastrelli F (talk) 06:50, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
It might be noted that a biography on William F. Cody, Called "Last Of The Great Scouts" by Helen Cody Wetmore,the sister of William F. Cody claiming the Cody family were of royal blood, going back to "Milesius", King of Spain, by way of one of his Son's "Heremon", of the royal Celtic dynasty of what would be Ireland. Other Irish-Celtic varients are, Coddy, Coidy, and Connelly, etc. A possible Spanish and/or French varient of the name Cody could also be Costa, or Coty, Cote, and possibly Cota or Cotta? 71.106.215.70 (talk) 03:46, 3 October 2008 (UTC)Aedwardmoch71.106.215.70 (talk) 03:46, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Douginduluth (talk) 03:31, 24 May 2009 (UTC)douginduluthDouginduluth (talk) 03:31, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
"The Devil in the White City" is a historical novel, not suitable as a source for facts about Cody's lack of participation in the 1893 Chicago World's Fair. Speculations need other sources.Parkwells (talk) 19:32, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
"The false Italian pedigree of Buffalo Bill is one of the many items unearthed by Umberto Eco during his extensive research into the pulp literature and popular culture of Fascist Italy, undertaken for writing The Mysterious Flame of Queen Loana." Did Eco refer to this in his book and if so, on what page? If not, where did the assertion come from?Parkwells (talk) 20:34, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
One of the founders of Wichita Kansas was William E. Mathewson. From 1860 forward, he was known as Buffalo Bill even though his modesty precluded him from discussing his buffalo hunts where he gathered meat for the starving settlers. A fuller write-up of him from the Kansas State Historical Society is available at - [[2] Another article at "Legends of Kansas" - http://www.legendsofkansas.com/williammathewson.html And from the book "Kansas: a cyclopedia of state history, embracing events, institutions, industries, counties, cities, towns, prominent persons, etc." - http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/archives/1912/m3/mathewson_william.html
FYI - I have Mr. Mathewson's wall safe in my house. For this reason, I have done a fair amount or research on him. His name is still prominent in Wichita where a street and a school are named after him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UnstableAl (talk • contribs) 20:35, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
Our local Shrine center has the calliope used in Buffalo Bill's show in 1906 and 07. It was later sold to Barnum and Bailey Circus and repainted whit the circus motif. Somewhere I have seen a picture of it when Buffalo Bill had it. If someone has a copy of that picture I would really appreciate it. You may contact me at gary@bigwf.com. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.219.233.161 (talk) 16:27, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
This article leaves out some interesting events..such as the encounter with "yellow hand" as noted in-Winners of the West Volume 6 Number 10 ST. JOSEPH, MISSOURI September 30, 1929 Transcribed from CD recorded 8/99 Keystone, SD 97.101.49.28 (talk) 11:45, 15 October 2012 (UTC) 10/15/2012 jgorl804@aim.com
It might be noted that a biography on William F. Cody, Called "Last Of The Great Scouts" by Helen Cody Wetmore,the sister of William F. Cody claiming the Cody family were of royal blood, going back to "Milesius", King of Spain, by way of one of his Son's "Heremon", of the royal Celtic dynasty of what would be Ireland. Other Irish-Celtic varients are, Coddy, Coidy, and Connelly, etc. A possible Spanish and/or French varient of the name Cody could also be Costa, or Coty, Cote, and possibly Cota or Cotta? 71.106.215.70 (talk) 03:46, 3 October 2008 (UTC)Aedwardmoch71.106.215.70 (talk) 03:46, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
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