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This article only discusses the term as an error. Words such as this (as with womyn/wymyn and herstory) were generally coined with specific purpose to make a specific point, which is entirely missing from this article. These neologisms are not "errors," whether in Latin or English. The originators of "herstory" for example (Mary Daly?) did not believe that "history" is related to the masculine pronoun. It is a play on words to make a point: that history as commonly taught has a masculine bias.
Seems to me that efforts to characterize these arguments has "errors" rooted in lack of English/Latin knowledge might be a very good example of what "ad feminam" was coined to describe. Stuart Strahl (talk) 13:55, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
Here's a source I found that makes this point (see "Usage Notes") [1]Stuart Strahl. And another: "The derived neologism ad feminam is more specifically used to refer to sexist prejudice directed towards women. (For example, 'Their recourse ... to ad feminam attacks evidences the chilly climate for women's leadersh ..." [2]
(talk) 15:19, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
Could the origin of this mistake be because the common translation of ad hominem is usually "against the man", whereas if you wished to be gender neutral you should probably translate it as "against the person"? Seajay (talk) 12:09, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Feminazis fail at English. "Ad feminam", "womyn", "herstory"? What's next, "fimail"‽ 75.118.170.35 (talk) 20:18, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
Pssh, I'm a woman and I agree this is ridiculous. "Ad feminam"? "Herstory"? Seriously? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.212.91.130 (talk) 16:29, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
I agree all the examples point in the direction of a misunderstood male connotation of ad hominem, but I nevertheless feel a need for a term for attacks against someones womanhood, rather than the thing discussed. Ad feminam in that use is a subclass of ad hominem, as would be, ad virum. 82.182.50.106 (talk) 13:45, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
This topic needs more examples of so-called "ad feminam" arguments beyond "is it your time of the month?". I'm failing to see much use for this phrase beyond the hormone reference. Surely we already have a word for attempting to discredit an argument based on sex - sexism. If the "ad feminam" conccept is separate from this the difference needs to be more clearly explained, otherwise it seems more suited to Urban Dictionary than Wikipedia. Kombucha (talk) 10:10, 24 August 2011 (UTC)