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April 6, 2006

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The result of the debate was speedily deleted. --M@thwiz2020 00:56, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:English Football League[edit]

Template:English Football League (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Created the template myself from an article that was long standing as due to be merged. When I tried it is was baisically ugly, not that informative and too big. Delete it, there's nothing in it thats not elsewhere. Robdurbar 22:34, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

then it can be put up for speedy deletion, I have done that for you.Flying Canuck 23:11, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I've CSD G7'd it. --M@thwiz2020 00:56, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:British TOCs

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The result of the debate was keep Zzyzx11 (Talk) 04:47, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:British TOCs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
This template was nominted for speedy deletion using the ((db)) template. As this put all the articles it was inlcuded on into category:Candidates for speedy deletion it was inapropriate. Looking on the talk page it appears that there is major disagreement about what should and should not be included in the template and some/all of the editors feel it shoudl just be deleted. My vote is below Thryduulf 22:20, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was delete all Zzyzx11 (Talk) 04:55, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:AM and Template:PM[edit]

Template:AM (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Template:PM (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
These templates are used on only around 60 articles, so presumably the other million+ are quite happily using "a.m." and "p.m." (as the MOS recommends) or (less compliantly) "am" and "pm" or indeed "AM" and "PM". -- ALoan (Talk) 19:47, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I only started using them because people started sticking them into articles I was editing. However the consistency in formatting that they provide is somewhat convenient. Weak keep. — jdorje (talk) 21:24, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
delete. Utterly pointless to have these templates floating around confusing new users and acting as targets for vandalism. Christopher Parham (talk) 22:45, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
delete. Subst first, of course. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 00:43, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strip the formatting, first, then subst it with a bot, then delete. — Apr. 7, '06 [04:29] <freakofnurxture|talk>
delete as per above. Style of a.m. and p.m. is covered in MoS. DavidH 06:12, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It is? Can you point me to a link? — jdorje (talk) 06:18, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I have added a link above. -- ALoan (Talk) 11:02, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete Zzyzx11 (Talk) 04:50, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:NJ Devils[edit]

Template:NJ Devils (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Already duplicated by Template:New Jersey Devils roster (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs); not linked to any pages (at least not any substantive ones); hasn't been legitimately updated in months. Anthony Hit me up... 16:55, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Branchlist/Electronics

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The result of the debate was Delete John Reid 10:58, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Branchlist (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Template:Branchlist/Electronics (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Template:Branchlist/Electronics/Active component (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
...and everything else in Category:Branchlist
To take words out of FreakofNurture's mouth, "Stems from a fundamentally flawed perception of page management". These are feature creep, an attempt to make Wikipedia heirarchical and bring back Wikipedia:Subpages, and don't do anything that categories, normal navigational templates, See also sections, wikilinks, portals, wikiprojects, what links here, and list articles don't already do. Though test or mock-up templates for a proposed software change, they're repeatedly being placed in live articles. I wouldn't have a problem with them if they were kept out of live articles.

See also Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 April 2#Template:Rootpage and Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_April_6#Category:Branchlist.— Omegatron 13:56, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can we keep it if we promise not to use them in any more live articles until agreement on their utility has been reached? --Light current 16:50, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was delete Zzyzx11 (Talk) 04:54, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Speedycleanup[edit]

Template:Speedycleanup (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
What the hell is a "speedy cleanup" supposed to be? Calton | Talk 13:29, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done so. "LOL"! 68.39.174.238 15:54, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete Zzyzx11 (Talk) 04:52, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:NCFCA Clubs[edit]

Template:NCFCA Clubs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Not helpful, necessary or encyclopedic, especially since it links to only three members of an NN organization. pm_shef 06:01, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


I dispute Pm shef's assertion that the organization is NN. It is a major forensics league that is growing by leaps and bounds and services a homeschooling community that has grown to 2.2 million American children. On the other hand, I am not sure whether individual clubs are encyclopaedic just yet and so I am not casting a vote here. I will say that there needs to be some kind of standard set for notability required - it can't just be a vote of every wikipedia user. There are many clubs and smaller organizations that have made themselves wiki pages, some of which are smaller than many NCFCA clubs.

Also, I thought the general idea behind Wikipedia was that so many articles could be compiled that one could find information on almost anything. To this end, it seems to me that notability shouldn't be too much of a factor.

Basically, while I am not going to cast a vote or argue either way on this particular topic, I do believe that at some point, someone needs to lay down the law on what is and is not notable instead of the somewhat vague and inconsistent guidelines currently in place. HomeschooledDebater 13:24, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Also note that of the two pages which had originally been linked on the template, one, [[SWAT (debate club) was deleted in an AfD debate. Thus, the template now contains one link. pm_shef 17:42, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ah, very well then... delete (no offense Nait - you can still put club pages on the other wiki) HomeschooledDebater 23:37, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Persecution of Serbs

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The result of the debate was speedily delete per WP:CSD#Templates. -- ChrisO 20:01, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Persecution of Serbs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

The creator of this template has recently tried to add it to a range of articles on the Second World War and the Yugoslav wars of the 1990s. He says on the template's talk page that "it should contain Albanian actions as well, and demonization of Serbs in the West. Croats are villians, but are far from only Serb-haters, as evident on this page." As this comment indicates, it's deliberately meant to be POV, and given its inherently POV nature I don't think it will be possible to make it compliant with the NPOV requirements. ChrisO 07:33, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've had my attention drawn to Jimbo Wales' recent addition of a template deletion criterion to WP:CSD#Templates: "Templates that are divisive and inflammatory". As this template very clearly meets this criterion, I've speedily deleted it as suggested below. -- ChrisO 20:01, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
How can a list of links be original research? that is nonsense. As for the link to Hanging, it should link to hangings in NDH, a method used in Ustasha genocide. The Ustasha genocide is a well established event, and so the tab is necessary to put these links together. If you see a problem in after WWII section, that may be adressed, but the tab has to have a valid reason to be destroyed. I would go so far to remind you that removing this tab is a sort of Holocaust denial - but when Serbs are in question, it seems that it does not count. Why are you trying to disintegrate information about Ustasha genocide that already exists in wikipedia? CeBuCCuCmeM 18:12, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is not a soapbox. You seem to have entirely the wrong idea about what Wikipedia is. I should add that your actions in sticking POV notices into templates that I've edited, in apparent retaliation for this nomination for deletion, is an act of extremely bad faith. -- ChrisO 18:39, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You are getting it wrong. I think wikipedia should be ruled by rules, which apply equally to all. Just because you are admin does not mean you can push your POV. You answered that templates do not go into templates, and I accept that - so it should hold for ALL templates. Thus, you must agree that POV notice is not for templates. As what is POV and not, is another issue. I see your edits to Scientology as pretty POV. BTW I am not Scientologist. But thats unrelated issue. The important thing is to have rules, and to follow them in ALL cases. Policy - thats how things work. So, in my opinion, genocide against the Serbs is worthy of a template, since genocide against Jews is. Thats how I understand impartiality. The only thing obvious here is that you, ChrisO, are a POV pusher. CeBuCCuCmeM 18:51, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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