IBS Treatment Center (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (restore)

72.11.69.198 (talk) 22:49, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted by retired (no longer active on WP) user Kurykh The reason stated was "the result was delete" with no further explanation. Most discussion at the time related to Notability in Wikipedia. At the time the article did not have many reliable sources but many new (non-COI) sources are now available due to the notability of the subject. Examples include:

1. Yoga Journal published a story by Karen Kelly entitled Sweet, No Wheat in the August 2009 issue. Dr. Wangen of the IBS Treatment Center is cited as an expert on non-celiac gluten intolerance. Yoga Journal, August 2009, Pages 31-33.
2. Book Spotlight in Gig Quarterly - The Gluten Intolerance Group Magazine published an excerpt from "Healthier Without Wheat" by Dr. Wangen - founder of the IBS Treamtent Center in the Spring, 2009 issue. (Note that Dr. Wangen is on the board of directors of GIG, but has no input into the contents of the magazine.)
3. Finding a Fix for IBS: Second in a two-part series on IBS by Wenda Reed. Published in Seattle Woman Magazine in July, 2009. Cites the IBS Treatment Center and ibstreatmentcenter.com.
4. What’s Wrong with Your Gut? Diagnosing Irritable Bowel Syndrome First in a two-part series on IBS by Wenda Reed. Published in Seattle Woman Magazine in June, 2009. Discusses the IBS Treatment Center.
5. DESTINATION USA: IBS Treatment Center, Stephen Wangen, ND THIS WEEK IN MEDICAL TRAVEL TODAY; Volume 3, Issue 9 by Amanda Haar, Editor (May 1, 2009) Article featuring the IBS Treatment Center as a clinic to which people travel from around the world. (Scroll about halfway down the page.)
6. Some patients struggle with irritable bowel syndrome By Taya Flores in the Lafayette, Indiana Journal & Courier Newspaper March 24, 2009. Discusses the IBS Treatment Center.
7. You Don’t Have to Learn to Live with IBS Printed in The Journal Newspapers From July 3rd to August 6th, 2007. Article about the IBS Treatment Center.
8. No Gluten, Please Article by Mary Jane Halligan in Seattle Woman Magazine on celiac disease and gluten intolerance. May, 2008, pages 28-33. Cites the IBS Treatment Center.

And there are many reviews of the two books published by Dr. Wangen (founder of the IBS Treatment Center) that mention the center in publications such as Library_Journal and ForeWord_(magazine). I respectfully submit that the article be revived and improved.

• Endorse Self published work, and press released based stories, all of it at least all that I could see. If there are 3rd party independent published reviews of books by Wangen, try writing an article about him. LJ might do -- the review is at http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-15670999_ITM. I'm not at all sure we will find him notable even with reviews, for the books are self published, but it would be the best approach. DGG (talk) 04:04, 3 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep deleted; if DGG is satisfied that is enough for me. (I also did a cursory check of the sources provided.) Stifle (talk) 08:02, 3 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• A self-published work can be notable (see Mark Twain and Virginia Woolf), but it has to make a whole lot more impact on the market than this one seems to have done.—S Marshall ^Talk/_Cont 08:18, 3 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• keep deleted — Google News suggests there is no continuing interest in this of the kind to interest us here, so I see no case to revisit the AfD. The nominator should note the possibility of having the page userfied, if there is the possibility of turning it into a work that does pass our signifiance threshold. S Marshall is quite right to note that self-publication does not defeat other evidence of notability. — Charles Stewart (talk) 08:41, 3 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• The fifth link given by the nom does have some good information in it, and is about the center rather than just mentioning it, though I am unsure about how reliable the source is. Perhaps there's some hope for the article. If you'd like to work on the article as a userspace draft, I'd be happy to userfy the content for you. Cheers. lifebaka++ 14:29, 3 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Thanks for the feedback. I hereby withdraw the request for the time being. I think that the press will continue to report on the IBS Treatment Center and thus at some point in the not-too-distant future the volume of coverage will pass the (invisible) threshold of notability. For the record, Medical Travel Today is a widely read newsletter and should be considered reliable for other notability evaluations. I am not sure if Google News should be the arbiter of notability. In any case, thanks for your time. I will resubmit when more reliable sources are available. 72.11.69.198 (talk) 16:48, 3 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• comment Medical Travel Today, as the link given will show, is the product of a PR firm, CPR Strategic Marketing Communications, which publishes a number of such newsletters. I've encountered them here before, and i consider them unreliable.I finish by urging my good friend Stifle not to rely on me so much.  :) I've made many delete !votes where the consensus has been otherwise, in almost every possible subject, even fictional elements. I'm not actually one-dimensional. DGG (talk) 23:55, 3 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]