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Category:United Kingdom intelligence agencies

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The result of the discussion was: rename. The Bushranger One ping only 19:13, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Opposed speedy
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Category:Films that use the 'wilhelm scream'

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 23:22, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Use of a particular sound effect is not a defining characteristic of a film. Film articles are already so heavily categorized that navigation is difficult. LeSnail (talk) 17:58, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Medal for Impeccable Service

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 19:13, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Just a long service and good conduct medal awarded to all servicemen who had been in for a set time. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:46, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Soviet campaign medals

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 19:14, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Campaign medals, not awarded for any special merit. We don't usually have categories for the recipients of such medals. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:37, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete membership for these goes in the millions, definitely not a criterion for individual notability. We might as well have the medals for the 10th, 20th etc jubilees of the Red Army or the decennial anniversaries of the Great Patriotic War. Constantine ✍ 10:09, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm sure we will if these categories are allowed to proliferate! Which is one reason I'm trying to nip it in the bud. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:30, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I don't agree. These categories aren't saying that the individual rates an articles because they have the medal, just that they have it. As someone who works with Military biographies quite a bit I find it often helpful to have a category for the particular medal to help identify who has what. I would also add that although mmillions may have received the medal, relative few would have a WP bio as being notable. Kumioko (talk) 10:58, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Service medals

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 19:15, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. A ubiquitous service medal issued to over 5 million people. Both categories actually apparently refer to the same medal. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:25, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Just a service badge. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:21, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Just a service badge awarded for completion of two patrols. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:20, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Just a service medal. Doesn't indicate any specific merit. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:17, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Yet another service medal. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:15, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Just another service medal. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:13, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Service tabs

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The result of the discussion was: delete as wildly WP:OC. The Bushranger One ping only 19:17, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Just a qualification badge awarded to those who pass certain criteria. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:11, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Just a qualification badge awarded after meeting certain criteria. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:08, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Recipients of a posthumous promotion

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The result of the discussion was: delete. There absolutely should be an article on this as PKI suggests, but a list of everyone who received one - even one of everyone with a bluelink who received one - would be truly massive. The Bushranger One ping only 19:18, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. I see no reason why this should be especially notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:10, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment OK then on the US category, but this does not necessarily carry over to the more generic one. In Greece, for instance, it is a rather rare honour recognizing exceptional valour. Constantine ✍ 10:12, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Recipients of the Prisoner of War Medal

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The result of the discussion was: Merge to Category:American prisoners of war. Timrollpickering (talk) 20:40, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Just a service medal awarded to people already in Category:American prisoners of war. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:07, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I don't agree. These categories aren't saying that the individual rates an articles because they have the medal, just that they have it. As someone who works with Military biographies quite a bit I find it often helpful to have a category for the particular medal to help identify who has what. Kumioko (talk) 10:58, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Recipients of the Expert Infantryman Badge

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 19:19, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Just a qualification badge awarded to anyone who satisfies certain criteria. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:05, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Recipients of Combat Action awards

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 19:20, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Basically just awarded for being in combat. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:00, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Wound badges

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. I'm particularly loath to delete a category with almost 1,800 members on a split decision.--Mike Selinker (talk) 18:44, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. It's just a wound badge awarded to all servicemen who have been wounded. Why would we classify people for being wounded? Killed, maybe, but wounded, no. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:58, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Just a wound badge. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:56, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

*Delete - I would say these awards are specific to certain countries. In the British Commonwealth, Wound stripes were awarded but are rarely recorded anywhere. The only equivalent I can see is the Silver War Badge which was awarded in vast numbers. I use this only as an example of the limited nations that 'award' wounds. I have perhaps some sympathy to the idea of the Purple Heart as being a 'special case' given it may well be the most well known US decoration so could be persuaded but it is awarded in huge numbers and not always as seemed to be claimed above for wounds from the enemy Kernel Saunters (talk) 14:18, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pending more info as per Cgingold Kernel Saunters (talk) 14:42, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Seems consensus will roll to delete, but during WW2 and Vietnam (at least) the PH was viewed as being one of the few decorations that was relatively immune from political influence. At one time the CIB was also seen that way. It wasn't so much based on where they were in the merit order, but how they were earned that gave them a different weight in the eyes of combatants. Intothatdarkness 16:13, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but the Purple Heart is not actually earned. It's given out as a matter of course for something that has happened to an individual beyond their control. An individual who has spent three days in a combat zone and been wounded is certainly not more significant or worthy than an individual who has spent six months in a combat zone and been lucky enough to escape injury, yet the former has a medal and the latter doesn't. Not because he's done anything heroic but simply because he's been unlucky. That's why it's not particularly defining, why many armies do not give out wound medals, and why death or injury is not a qualifying criterion for an article on Wikipedia. It's the circumstances in which they were killed or wounded that are significant (and the possible gallantry decoration they received for those circumstances), not the medal they received simply for being killed or wounded. -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:48, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
And a lot of solddiers' stories, at least, tell tales of people reciving Purple Hearts because they jumped at incoming artillery and cut their hand on a C-ration can. - The Bushranger One ping only 19:21, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Recipients of the Kuwait Liberation Medal (Kuwait)

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Due to the scope and subject of this medal, though, this might be a candidate for listification. Accordingly, I have taken a screenshot of its contents if anyone wishes to do that; it can be seen here. The Bushranger One ping only 19:28, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Campaign medal. Many thousands issued. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:41, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Lets not categorise by commonly issued campaign medal Kernel Saunters (talk) 09:53, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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French campaign medals

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The result of the discussion was: Delete all. No individual ones have been identified for retention. Timrollpickering (talk) 17:19, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Campaign and service medals. In some cases, millions have been issued. In all cases it's thousands. We don't usually have categories for the recipients of such medals. -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:55, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Lets not categorise by medal except where it is a significant award Kernel Saunters (talk) 09:52, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I don't agree. These categories aren't saying that the individual rates an articles because they have the medal, just that they have it. As someone who works with Military biographies quite a bit I find it often helpful to have a category for the particular medal to help identify who has what. Kumioko (talk) 10:58, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
As is the case throughout our awards categories, only the truly major military awards should have categories. These have really gotten out of hand, with many bio articles having a grossly excessive number of these categories cluttering up the category space at the bottom of the page. My thanks to User:Necrothesp for bringing these to CFD. Cgingold (talk) 12:27, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Recipients of the Jubilee Medal "50 Years of Victory in the Great Patriotic War 1941-1945"

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 19:29, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose deleting Category:Recipients of the Jubilee Medal "50 Years of Victory in the Great Patriotic War 1941-1945" (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Very common. Awarded to all surviving veterans of the Second World War. -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:51, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Recipients of the Malta George Cross Fiftieth Anniversary Medal

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 19:30, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose deleting Category:Recipients of the Malta George Cross Fiftieth Anniversary Medal (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Commemorative medal, awarded to anyone serving in Malta during the siege. We don't generally have categories for recipients of campaign or commemorative medals. -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:46, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Recipients of the King George V Silver Jubilee Medal

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 19:30, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose deleting Category:Recipients of the King George V Silver Jubilee Medal (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Very common commemorative medal. Over 85,000 awarded. We don't normally have categories for commemorative or campaign medals. -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:40, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Recipients of the King George VI Coronation Medal

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 19:30, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Very common commemorative medal. Over 90,000 awarded. We don't normally have categories for commemorative or campaign medals. -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:39, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Dundurn Books

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The result of the discussion was: rename. The Bushranger One ping only 19:31, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: the publishing house is "Dundurn Group", and this category is books published by the Dundurn Group, thus the word "books" should not be capitalized. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 04:30, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Athabasca County, Alberta

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The result of the discussion was: reverse merge from Category:People from Athabasca County. The Bushranger One ping only 23:32, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category:People from Athabasca County already exists, and there is no other Athabasca County. 117Avenue (talk) 02:37, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Withdrawn, can I blame this on a lack of sleep? I usually support categories matching article names. Someday Alberta's municipal districts articles will be assessed, and moved, according to WP:CANSTYLE, but not today. 117Avenue (talk) 02:45, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Female Australian Swimmer of the Year

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Australian Swimmers of the Year.--Mike Selinker (talk) 18:48, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Female Australian Swimmer of the Year to Category:Female Australian Swimmers of the Year
Nominator's rationale: or delete. Should be plural, and is possibly redundant to Category:Australian Swimmers of the Year Courcelles 00:41, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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