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The result was Speedy deleted Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:47, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Sovereign Liberties[edit]

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Notability concerns. An anonymous pamphlet published last month. ➨ ЯEDVERS takes life at five times the average speed 11:55, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • why would anyone interpret that as a threat? stating cause and effect, over which i have no control, is not a threat.
  • A screenshot! No, not that, anything but that! I'll be remembered as history's greatest monster! *runs away and hides* Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 15:42, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "yes, a screenshot! you'll pay..all of you...!" is that my line?
  • conflict of interest? if an accountant writes an article on accounting, is that a conflict of interest? no neutrality is being broken with this article. try again.
  • "it trying to promote his/her propaganda through Wikipedia." speculation...it's NOT MY propaganda.
  • i have requested its deletion? your logic fails you. nice try.
  • "Articles considered advertisements include those that are solicitations for a business, product or service, or are public relations pieces designed to promote a company or individual." --WP:SPAM sorry, i guess i missed the part where the article fits this criteria? try saying it is "original research" or "too non-notable", you'll have better luck arguing it.
  • not censored? what a joke...
  • again, do whatever you will. you don't have to support it, but you don't have to support it being erased from wikipedia either. al support is notable and will be rewarded.
How would it be rewarded? you'll say something nice about me in your next pamphlet? Big wow.Totnesmartin (talk) 21:06, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
wow, you can use sarcasm! me too! Amoffat
  • "Research that consists of collecting and organizing material from existing sources within the provisions of this and other content policies is encouraged: this is "source-based research", and it is fundamental to writing an encyclopedia. Take care, however, not to go beyond what is expressed in the sources or to use them in ways inconsistent with the intent of the source, such as using material out of context. In short, stick to the sources." --Original research.
does not meet criteria "Articles considered advertisements include those that are solicitations for a business, product or service, or are public relations pieces designed to promote a company or individual." --WP:SPAM Amoffat
On the contrary, meets criteria perfectly: "Pages which exclusively promote some entity and which would need to be fundamentally rewritten to become encyclopedic." I see absolutely no encyclopedic content. The entire article is a jumble of long excerpts from the pamphlet itself and a few short sentences that describe what the publication looks like and where it has been allegedly distributed. How is any of it notable? How is it nothing more than simply spam and advertising to promote a cause? It's utterly pointless, and I stand by my speedy nomination. Luinfana (talk) 21:25, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
does not meet criteria "Propaganda, advocacy, or recruitment of any kind, commercial, political, religious, or otherwise. Of course, an article can report objectively about such things, as long as an attempt is made to describe the topic from a neutral point of view." --WP:SOAP. show where the article is not reported objectively. Amoffat
Long passages of propaganda from the document pasted into the article = soapboxing. Compare to The Triple Revolution or Port Huron Statement, both of which have the advantage of being discussed in reliable secondary sources. WillOakland (talk) 09:18, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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