The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete, and give a fish each to two users. Sandstein 19:46, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

St Andrews University Scottish Nationalist Association[edit]

Delete - This article is unreferenced and does not seem notable as a minor student society. It also seems to be an example of a "vanity article", given its exhaustive list of Executive Members.--Couter-revolutionary 18:48, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Keep and Clean-up - it is the biggest ScotNat society at a major university, and is affiliated to the SNP. It is notable, just as Oxford University Conservative Association is notable. I think the nominator's motives should be considered in the light of this statement on my talk page, I see this as in incidence of WP:POINT being ignored. --SandyDancer 19:05, 26 November 2006 (UTC) I was wrong on this, on reflection. It isn't necessary for each and every university branch of a political party - even a major (possibly, in future, ruling one) like the SNP to have a page on WP. This one doesn't seem notable so here's an about face - Delete. Cheers! --SandyDancer 18:01, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, and give Couter-revolutionary and SandyDancer fish with which they may slap each other on their own time - article is unsourced and a Google search doesn't turn up anything notable (which in and of itself doesn't prove anything, but still). Whether another article exists or not (and that other article is fairly extensively sourced, albeit all from the same newspaper which may be a bit dodgy) is irrelevant to whether this article should exist. If the society is notable, then do the work to source it. Otto4711 19:50, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I may be wrong but my instant reaction was to query why the official branch of the second biggest (possibly soon to be biggest and ruling) political party of a country in that country's leading university could be non-notable. But I accept I may be wrong. Fish and slapping don't come into it. Please be civil... ;-0 --SandyDancer 19:58, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• If they are the second biggest whatsit in the whoosy then it shouldn't be any trouble at all to cite all kinds of independent verification of that fact. Please do. Otto4711 20:49, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• I see your point...see above --SandyDancer 20:58, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Come on -- give them the fish, and sell tickets for us all to watch. Seriously, somewhere has to be the #1 NP student support group, adn SNP is the primary Scots political party (as opposed to a branch formation of an English heirarchy) -- Simon Cursitor

It does not say in the article that it is the biggest society of anything. In fact it is described as "the leading Scottish Nationalist society at St Andrews University" suggesting it is one of numerous St. Andrews University scottish nationalist groups. They do not have articles, why should this one?--Couter-revolutionary 15:10, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• If it's notable and verifiable then it can have an article regardless of whether any other society does or doesn't have one. False argument. Otto4711 16:21, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you for ignoring the main point of my argument, which is not "false". I was pointing out that this article makes no claims to notability, it does not claim to be the largest SNP group, regardless of what other editors have said.--Couter-revolutionary 18:19, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Although there may be a few exceptions, most political party organizations established at particular universities which have gone through AfD have been deleted. Student organizations at a single school are generally non-notable. --Metropolitan90 03:58, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.