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The result was merge to List of pizza varieties by country#New Zealand and List of pizza varieties by country#United States respectively. (If someone wants to change the merge target for the second one, go ahead). Black Kite (talk) 16:52, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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People can put whatever the hell they want on a pizza, but we don't need articles for any possible "[Topping] pizza", nor do we give anything Pizza Hut puts on their menu an article. Sources do not establish need for these. Meatball pizza article is just generalities about varieties of pizza in general and varieties of meatballs in general. Reywas92^Talk 18:48, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. Reywas92^Talk 18:48, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Speedy Keep What we don't need is another discussion for this when we've already got one. Andrew🐉(talk) 19:03, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Striking nonsense !vote. This is a different article and may a have a different AFD, else you'll complain at me for adding an additional page to a nomination after people have already commented. If as you said Pizza-ghetti is a "broad concept" that should cover both pizza with spaghetti on top and pizza with spaghetti on the side, then logically your vote should be to merge not to keep both articles. Reywas92^Talk 19:08, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • My !vote stands. The nominator makes my point by adding a second article (meatball pizza) to this one. This all belongs at the other AfD. Andrew🐉(talk) 19:32, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep but (preferably) merge with Pizza-ghetti into a single article on Pizza and spaghetti. This seems to be a quirk along the lines of Peanut butter and jelly sandwich. BD2412 T 20:39, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  Pizza-ghetti is about the ghetti sold on the side, not baked into it. Dream Focus 06:02, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge to List_of_pizza_varieties_by_country#New_Zealand. This article is almost entirely about this dish in NZ. We don't need separate articles for every pizza topping/combination -- a list seems like a very sensible place for that. If not the "by country" article, then just a list of pizza varieties seems viable. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 20:57, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge per Rhododendronites; no indication of independent notability. ——SN54129 04:46, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge to List of pizza varieties by country#New Zealand per Rhododendrites. Present article uses a combination of WP:NOTCOOKBOOK recipe links (the kind one could find for any other fill-in-the-blank pizza topping, such as potato pizza), and WP:NOTNEWS about the New Zealand prime minister. The latter does seem notable enough for a mention in the country list because it does seem to have at least some regional interest. I couldn't find any serious source touting the New York connection to meatball pizza, another cookbook recipe, so that one should just be deleted. StonyBrook (talk) 15:56, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• KEEP BOTH Sometimes its called Spaghizza [1] There also a cooking show that mentioned it according to [2]. Plenty of coverage for the New Zealand thing, and Domino's Pizza even sells it in New Zealand. [3] Google image search for it, plenty of people cook this, it on recipe sites. Dream Focus 06:01, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  WoOoOoW, Domino's sold it for a limited time in one country! I take it next up is Sweet Mango Habanero Wings, Parmesan Bread Bites, and Domino's Marbled Cookie Brownie™? Yes, let's become Wikirecipes, because we totally need articles for any recipe on the internet! Put it on Domino's_Pizza#Products, but we don't need separate articles for anything "plenty of people cook". And please give us a break with your ubiquitous ALL CAPS KEEP, you don't need to shout your votes. Reywas92^Talk 07:34, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  That's not shouting, its making it easier to read, separating it from the text that comes after. If you imagine someone is shouting at you, that's your problem not mine. Anything that exists and gets coverage can have an article on Wikipedia, there no shortage of space. Dream Focus 14:16, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There are decades of social norms that all-caps indicates shouting. You can't possibly be ignorant of that. ApLundell (talk) 05:04, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Neglecting recipes, this article's sources are about the NZ Prime Minister's social media more than they're about pizza. It's like WP:ONEEVENT, but for a pizza. ApLundell (talk) 05:04, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge to List of pizza varieties by country#New Zealand. That list can cover this topic and all the other myriad pizza toppings far better than this article. I think the fact that there are clear geographical differences between these two dishes means that a list which sorts by geography is probably better than a standalone article on Pizza and Spaghetti in general that would have to do the same. Devonian Wombat (talk) 22:16, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment – Note that two articles are nominated for deletion herein, Spaghetti pizza and Meatball pizza, but for whatever reasons, most users above appear to only be commenting about Spaghetti pizza. Perhaps the Meatball pizza article should be merged to List of pizza varieties by country § United States. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 22:26, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If there was a source for meatball pizza being a US thing, similar to spaghetti and the NZ prime minister, then maybe, but I haven't seen one. StonyBrook (talk) 23:27, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment – Another idea is to merge Meatball pizza with Meatball. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 00:44, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well, since we already have Pepperoni pizza and Anchovie pizza redirecting to plain old Pizza, it makes sense to have Meatball pizza redirect there as well. StonyBrook (talk) 01:45, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the input. Looking at their Revision histories, Pepperoni pizza and Anchovie pizza were never really developed much, so little information was lost by redirection. The pizza article also has almost no information about these topics other than mentioning them as ingrdients in passing. Conversely, I feel that the Meatball pizza article has some information worth merging per WP:ATD-M. See my !ote below for more info. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:09, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge Meatball pizza to Meatball, which will serve to WP:PRESERVE some of the information and place it in a highly-related article. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:09, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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