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The result was Keep. Hemlock Martinis 06:51, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Selena Gomez[edit]

Article for non-notable child star. Fails WP:BIO WP:V No non-trivial, verifiable sources and no evidence of any noteworthy roles played to suggest that such sources - which I searched for and failed to find - exist. Ghits for this person are unreliable as Google can produce exaggerated Ghits for people who've done minor work in the entertainment industry. Credits are duplicated by imdb & yahoo film sites which are then repeated in different languages/countries. Message board, fan sites, LJ, or Myspace hits also inadvertently pad google results. In short, there is no justification for this bio. Bigdaddy1981 00:11, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Since she's apparently going to be a major character on Wizards of Waverly Place [1], which is scheduled to air in October, she will qualify in a couple of months anyway. If you think that role won't clinch her notability, you ought to nominate the series article for deletion as well. --Groggy Dice T | C 01:14, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a crystal ball Bigdaddy1981 18:19, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, something could still come up to change Disney's plans, though it seems very probable to take place. However, my point is that if the series airs, her notability will be assured, so if she is too crystal for Wikipedia, then the series itself is too crystal for Wikipedia. --Groggy Dice T | C 23:01, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Barney and Friends seems to be a significant children television series in the US. If you have appeared as one of the children in it in a non one-off basis, then it may be considered to be a "significant role in major television show" as stated in WP:BIO.--Kylohk 02:19, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Really? Looking at the wiki article for Barney and Friends I count more than 75 children who have appeared on the television programme, I don't know if being one of 75 is really a significant role. Bigdaddy1981 18:24, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The large number of Barney children is the main reason I didn't bring that up. However, remember that Barney has been on the air for 15 years, and they have to replace their "cousin Olivers" regularly as they "age out" of their demographic. It's not as if there were 75 children on at any one time. --Groggy Dice T | C 23:01, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, by the filmography list, looks like a notable child actress. JIP | Talk 05:57, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Looks like a bunch of bit parts to me; her role in Spy Kids as "Waterpark Girl." Barney is definitely a major television show, but if she's one of 75 kids I don't think that's a significant role. If that Wizards show hits the airwaves, add her back. Cap'n Walker 20:33, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Agree with Cap'n Walker that this looks like bit parts. If she becomes more significant in the future the article can always be resurreccted 3tmx 21:39, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep She's a notable actress, starring role in Wizards of Waverly place, plus at least one ( or more ) episode(s) of Hannah Montana. Check her IMDB page - http://imdb.com/name/nm1411125/. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adam Ginsberg (talk • contribs) Bigdaddy1981 22:25, 9 August 2007 (UTC) — Adam Ginsberg (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Bigdaddy1981 22:25, 9 August 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Strong Keep Her notability will be assured once promotion for Wizards of Waverly Place begins airing on Disney Channel. Quasy Boy 12:47, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a crystal ball Bigdaddy1981 17:18, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

- Good grief, how many times does Bigdaddy have to say that? Future fame means future WP article. Cap'n Walker 19:40, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There are plenty of things further in the future than that. I find the odd that the show won't air are pretty slim, and deleting the article and recreating it when we ~99% know she'll be notable then is pointless. Reywas92^Talk 01:43, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.