The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect all to their appropriate section in LOMOcean Design. Regards, Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 22:20, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sampitres[edit]

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Part of a Walled-gardenish set of articles on boats/yachts (most articles do not make it clear whether their subject is a class or a single vessel) designed by LOMOcean Design. All have a very advertorial style, and I suspect that User:Mwin044 has a conflict of interest (simply on the basis that I don't beleive anyone without a CoI would create such a series of articles as their only contribution). Nearly all sources are first/second party. Some boats have third-party reviews, but I don't believe that they are enough to hang an article on. I am not nominating LOMOcean Design itself, since there may well be sufficient notability. Indeed, smerging these articles with their third-party refs might be the best means to rescue LOMOcean Design. dramatic (talk) 05:44, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages for the same reasons given above:

dramatic (talk) 05:44, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - I started preparing this afd several days ago. When I went to add multiple afd tags to some of the articles I see that they have since been prodded. I have gone ahead and replaced the prod tags with afd ones, as it should encourage discussion dramatic (talk) 05:50, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - As per nom. No apprent notability. No third party citations. Agree that the author appears to have COI (why LOMOcean Design and nothing else? very suspicious!). DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 11:26, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete (I prodded most of those). No indication of any notability for most of them. Sampitres has been nominated for an award though, and 148m Moonset Trimaran, although not built yet, has received some attention, so these two should be looked at more in detail (by people knowing more about yachts) to see whether they meet WP:N or not. Fram (talk) 08:06, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: I followed a couple of the links for the Moonset and got blank pages - as though articles had been withdrawn. It possibly would be notable if built.dramatic (talk) 08:32, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I already prodded a few articles about boats built by lomocean. While there are some notable boats by this company, see Ady Gil, most are not. Cathardic (talk) 13:35, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all, lack significant coverage in 3rd party sources RadioFan (talk) 17:52, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Request for Delay - as a result of this discussion (and since I'll be offline from tonight until Monday) I'd like to put this AFD on hold for a few days (until the middle of next week?) to give user:Mwin044 a chance to rescue some of the articles based on offline sources, then to treat the articles on a case by case basis. dramatic (talk) 01:48, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tone 10:26, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I am the person who has written all of these articles. Thankyou all for your input. I have entirely re-written almost everything and have merged the articles into one page with a short description of each boat in order to make it more factual and hopefully it should look less like I am trying to advertise. I have also found many more resources, including magazine articles as well as many other third party internet articles. I am not sure if I am meant to do this on my own or what, but I suggest that the articles that I have written, except for the 148m Moonset Trimaran page, the main LOMOcean Design page and the Planet Solar page, should be deleted. Once they have gone, I will modify the pages that are left with the new text that I have written and the new references etc. I believe that these three pages now have enough references and information that will (hopefully) prove that the boats are notable enough to have their own pages. I am assuming that I should not edit the LOMOcean page yet as if I do it now (while the other pages have not yet been deleted) it will result in double ups of some of the information. Thanks to anybody who can help me out... Mwin044 (talk) 22:05, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Duplication is not a problem at all. Also, given what you propose, we can probably resolve this by redirecting rather than deleting the individual design articles. dramatic (talk) 02:16, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have uploaded the pages that I have talked about, but now I have tried to re-direct the other pages to the LOMOcean Design page, but they have been reverted because the edit was "unconstructive". Is there another way to do it? Mwin044 (talk) 20:16, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.