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The result was merge to Hitler Youth. To the extent it can be sourced. Sandstein 11:44, 3 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ranks and insignia of the Hitler Youth

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A page on the obscure rank system of the youth organisation of the Nazi party. Largely unsourced original research. Significant RS coverage to justify a stand-alone page not found. Created by Special:Contributions/OberRanks currently site-banned for fabricating content and sources. For more info, please see ANI:OberRanks and fabricated sources. --K.e.coffman (talk) 05:22, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Update: I moved the two sentences that were sourced to the Hitler Youth article: diff. The rest is unsourced OR and I believe that the article should be deleted. Or can be deleted and redirected. WP:TNT still applies given the history of the creator. --K.e.coffman (talk) 03:02, 31 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom; TNT needed here. I've prodded a sub-article, Oberrottenführer. b uidhe 06:41, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or merge Plenty of sources, e.g (multiple paragraphs in this book, extensive detail in here, an entire book here, a paragraph on the insignia of the Naval HY here). I have no problem if this is merged into the main Hitler Youth article, I note the German version contains insignia information.--Pontificalibus 15:20, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No doubt that it's a notable topic and well referenced, but I agree it would be better placed in the main article. Rathfelder (talk) 20:27, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Merge the actual ranks into a section of the main article on the Hitler Youth. With that said, I added the only small amount of RS citing, which I had available and that only touches on the leader rank/title and officer holders. So, it needs more RS citing. Kierzek (talk) 14:50, 28 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 08:24, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 08:24, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 08:24, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merge (selective) to Hitler Youth which is at 16kb of prose and does not need a rank spinout. Sources do seem to exist for ranks in the Hitler Youth - e.g. this seems like a RS at first blush. Icewhiz (talk) 08:29, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@K.e.coffman: - the list of ranks and images of the shoulder marks do pass V from the book link above.Icewhiz (talk) 04:53, 31 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Notable but TNT, no prejudice to merging RS data to Hitler Youth given main author's record. Buckshot06 (talk) 08:33, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Merge whatever content is RS-sourced to Hitler Youth. Any unsourced and OR content should be removed, given that the author is a proven liar and fantasist with a history of content and source fabrication. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 08:58, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Merge RS-cited content to Hitler Youth. No need for a spin-off. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 09:32, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or Merge. There is plenty of reliable literature about these ranks. They are clearly a notable topic. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:14, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Hitler Youth. ...GELongstreet (talk) 16:58, 30 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into Hitler Youth. Subject is notable, and I would have no objection to the article being re-created if someone wanted to write about the subject rather than just displaying badges. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:21, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.