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The result was delete. W.marsh 15:00, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Meridian Medicine[edit]

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Sorry, I am being idle on this one. Massively oversize article. Possibly entirely a copyvio. Has some references but are they independent? -- RHaworth 23:01, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - per no independant sources. I'm almost positive this must be a copyvio, although I can't find where from RyanPostlethwaite^{See the mess I've created or let's have banter} 23:14, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - google seems to give no reliable sources RyanPostlethwaite^{See the mess I've created or let's have banter} 23:31, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - The article explicitly sources http://www.lulu.com/content/332422, which is a page selling a book (ISBN 978-0-9788-7069-0). Tends to support the copyvio theory, but cannot confirm. --J Morgan^(talk) 23:35, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Hi I am the author of the book and the article. One of my goal is to bring this research to wikipedia which I have tremondous respect for. I have done 18 years research on this article and want to keep building this information. I work as a Medical Doctor and these meridian theories helps me understand the disease process better. The original scripture for this book is Keiraku which is the ancient text on Meridian Medicine. Master Jiro Murai in Japan studied this art for almost all his lifetime and passed this again as oral teaching to Mary Burmeister who started Jin Shin Jyutsu in USA. Mary wrote her book which took her 22 years to put together. My backgrond in Medicine, Acupuncture, Acupressure makes this easier for me plus being trained in both western and eastern Medicine makes this effortless for me. If you still want to delete this article I respect your opinion. I can tell you a story "I had a patient with Ovarian cancer. She was only 39 yrs old and had a 3 yr old son. Just one week before she died she had terrible pain in her gums and died unable to speak. I learnt through Meridian medicine - that her ovarian cancer caused obstruction of large intestinal meridian which flows and ends at the gums. I learnt to respect this medicine which explains the location of pain in the body."

My medical website is http://VasuBrown.Com

Regards Vasu Brown, MD

• Dr. Brown: Instead of pasting a wall of text from your book on wikipedia, why don't you try writing about the topic in encyclopedic form? There are many references available to you for guidance, but for starters you can see the Your first article and Manual of style pages. Be careful not to include original research in your article, as that is against WP policy. --J Morgan^(talk) 17:09, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Morgan Thanks for your suggestion. I will do this for the future. It is little bit of a learning curve and since I did not have lots of time I wanted a quick update on what Meridian Medicine is about. I guess if this page does get deleted I will be doing the topic as you suggested in future. Cheers Vasu Brown

• Delete Some content could be merged into Meridian (Chinese medicine) or Acupuncture. Much of what is written here is also in those two articles and there is no need to duplicate. Some terms in the article Keiraku, Ki-Eki, Tai-Eki don't seam to have coverage under those names here, but they do seem to exist in google, they might be translations of articles for which we do have articles, possible Qi or Ki. If any content is merged it does need good referencing, unfortunatly the lulu book does not count being a self-published source. Jin Shin Jyutsu may well deserve an article as it seems to have practioners worldwide. --Salix alba (talk) 10:28, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete On the author's own admission, it is his original research.--Holdenhurst 13:33, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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