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The result was delete. —David Eppstein (talk) 03:30, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Matthew LeDrew[edit]

SF / horror author of questioned notability; brought here as contested speedy, but also to discuss together with his books, listed below. Tikiwont (talk) 13:06, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all. No evidence that the author or his books have attracted any attention in the form of reviews or mentions in secondary sources. The books are essentially self-published (Engen Books is owned by Matthew LeDrew and has published nothing other than LeDrew's two books). The bio article is, I think, suitable for an A7 speedy, but there's unfortunately no speedy criterion for books. Deor (talk) 14:23, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I note that the books aren't even available on Amazon (either US or CA). It takes work to verify with a source independent of the self-publisher that they even exist, let alone that they're notable. (And not, it's not unfortunate that there's no speedy criterion for books -- five days is fast enough, and gives editors who don't check wikipedia every single day a chance to find notability evidence.) Delete all until such time as the books get significant reviews. —Quasirandom (talk) 15:18, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all until such time as the books get significant reviews. I submit that in my rush I may have added the Matthew LeDrew, Black Womb] and Transformations in Pain articles before they were notable and relevant. You make good points about the lack of reviews and notability of the book. I will hold off on posting these items to wikipedia until such a time that the author/books become more noteworthy. Thank you. —Thecrew2008 (talk) 29 February 2008 —Preceding comment was added at 17:31, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - the creator of these pages has also created many other pages which all relate in some way to Iceberg Publishing - a self publisher?. Taking one of these at random as an example - The Almost Coup - no attempt is made at establishing notability, and google shows only 82 results, the first of which is the wikipedia entry. I suspect therefore that User:Thecrew2008 has a COI with Iceberg Publishing as these books seem unknown otherwise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.210.172 (talk) 17:46, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kenneth Tam is basically self published as the Iceberg publishing website describes him as 'A founding partner in Iceberg Publishing' - ie. he publishes his own books, The only claim to notability on his wikipedia page is winning an award in high school, which I don't think passes WP:BIO. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.210.172 (talk) 17:52, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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