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The result was Nomination withdrawn Pea ceNT 05:13, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of Spanish language names for the Falkland Islands[edit]

This article is not about English but about Spanish names and therefore should not be here on the English wikipedia. Ity is also very POV. The Falklands are a British terrirtory with British names and to give the Argentinian names is unnecessary POV, see List of settlements in the Falkland Islands, SqueakBox 19:22, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletions. -- SkierRMH 21:21, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Perfectly encyclopedical: Cross reference to Spanish names for better understanding articles from different sources. This articles are not about a language but about the denominations of certain things. I would also add the French denominations whenever possible. There are several articles about things in other languages, such as List of Spanish words of Germanic origin. --Mariano(t/c) 20:32, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Mariano. The Spanish names should also be set to redirect to the appropriate articles. --Selket ^Talk 22:50, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - your unequivocal statement that "The Falklands are a British terrirtory with British names" is itself partly POV. The Falklands are regarded by many as disputed territory. Perhaps a merge to Falkland Islands might be warranted, but that should be brought up on the talk page. -- Black Falcon 02:01, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment What's that about a thumping? I hope that is not a threat? Please remian civil, SqueakBox 02:05, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No that is not a threat. I am not Argentinean and do not particularly care about the Falkland (or Malvinian) Islands one way or another. My comment was intended to convey the fact that the statement "The Falklands are a British terrirtory" is disputed by many Argentineans (and some others), and the nom's justification for deleting this article based on POV may itself constitute POV. It was essentially a spin (and apparently an unsuccessful one) on the phrase: "that and $3 will get you a cup of coffee". However, as my meaning apparently did not go through, I have changed the text so it is clearer. -- Black Falcon 02:49, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - obviously, I created it. The main reason for my creating this article is that most Spanish names are NOT translated from the English or vice versa. In fact, some of them are confusing, particularly 'Gran Malvina' which is used for the second biggest island.

Yes, I am aware that the English have controlled the islands for a long while, but not without controversy, and some maps include both English and Spanish nomenclature, notably those in China (rendered into Chinese of course!)--MacRusgail 15:50, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - these are not all 'Argentine' names, in fact some are used in Chile, and beyond. They are also used in English occasionally by those who support Argentina's claim. There's also some Spanish names used in English, e.g. Dos Lomos, Rincon Grande etc. It is very common to see the name 'Falkland-Malvinas' used in English. I also include a disclaimer at the top. --MacRusgail 15:53, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay well I am happy to see this afd closed given the consensus, SqueakBox 15:54, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, sorry! In my comment above, I made a reference to the nominator thinking it was SkierRMH and not recognizing it was you. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Cheers, Black Falcon 18:31, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Come on, guys, the Falkland Islands weren't worth fighting about 25 years ago, and they're not now. I like the article, but I really think the article could have a PoV issue. Why not rewrite it as a list comparing the English and Spanish names instead of a list naming the Spanish ones, and rename it something along those lines? --UsaSatsui 19:37, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well we already have List of settlements in the Falkland Islands, perhaps the 2 articles should be deleted. If the Falklands arent worth shedding blood for then nor is any other political conflict, and the failure of diplomacy and the shedding of blood in these islands still resounds throught the years, affecting wikipedia amongst iots other effects, SqueakBox 20:33, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Tongue was in cheek during my comment, BTW. In any event, I would suggest merging the articles rather than deleting both of them.--UsaSatsui 02:10, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Suggestion: rename - perhaps a more appropriate title for the page would be List of Falkland Islands placenames given that both English and Spanish language names are provided. -- Black Falcon 22:24, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think the article talk page is the place for this discussion. I a, going to remove the afd, can someone close this afd? SqueakBox 22:28, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think the only way it's done is to try to get the attention of an admin: AFD WITHDRAWN BY NOMINATOR. Hopefully something will come of this. ;-) Black Falcon 22:47, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well actually I know non admins can but I dont know how, SqueakBox 23:00, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've left a note for an Admin to help, so hopefully they can. --UsaSatsui 02:10, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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