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The result was Withdrawn per SNOW.--Scott Mac (Doc) 22:30, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of Irish American mobsters[edit]

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This is a BLP violating mainly unreferenced list accusing people of being mobsters. Given that we already have Category:Irish-American mobsters, can we remove this list as a liability without an upside? See also the nomination below Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of British mobsters Scott Mac (Doc) 16:47, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. Why would a list be a liability and a category not be a liability? I don't understand the difference as it concerns liability. Most of the people are dead, so BLP only is a concern of the living. Why not just add the references to the list from the articles. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 18:58, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, cleanup and source. Having a category does not preclude having a list. Also, if a list should be deleted due to BLP concers then the category would also have the same concerns. DCEdwards¹⁹⁶⁶ 19:12, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:39, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:39, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Agree with the above. The category is a far bigger BLP problem as it is not as easily monitored, and doesn't allow us to provide sources. Needs cleanup, not deletion. Jim Miller ^{See me | Touch me} 21:07, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, cleanup and redlinks, remove anything bluelinked that does not unambiguously qualify for inclusion on the list from article content. Artw (talk) 21:46, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Unlike the British mobsters list, this includes a good deal of discriminating information. It does need to be sourced. As far as WP:BLP, most of these people are no longer "L". Limit it to deceased people if necessary. Mandsford (talk) 21:56, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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