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The result was merge/redirect to Henry Hill per a general consensus. Hersfold (t/a/c) 04:02, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Karen Hill[edit]

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NN gangster's wife... She was born, she met some guy (who might have been a gangster), they got married, the marriage sucked, they got divorced, she now lives under a new name... article shows no real signs of notability here... Adolphus79 (talk) 16:03, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How can someone's ethnic background be notable? -- Escape Artist Swyer Talk to me The mess I've made 00:02, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"...one of three daughters of a strict Jewish family and grew up in Nassau County, New York." Ottre (talk) 20:44, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
am I missing something? is there an obsene lack of Jews in Nassau County? - Adolphus79 (talk) 04:03, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's not a matter of being a stub or not, it's a matter of notability... There is nothing in the article that says why she is notable enough to warrant her own article... Just because she was a gangster's wife, does not mean she is notable enough for her own article... - Adolphus79 (talk) 15:47, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
My guess is that you haven't either read the book or seen the movie - if you had, you would know that most people instantly want to know what happened to Karen Hill. There has been enough interest in the subject that even her two children (who had virtually NO mention in the book or the movie) have now written a book about what happened to them. Somebody's buying these books, so I don't see why you think there is no interest and that Karen Hill's entry should be deleted. Who's buying the books if nobody wants to know what happened to Karen and her kids? Why would a publisher (Time Warner Books) publish it if there wasn't any interest? The movie itself is regularly voted in various "Top 100" movie lists - it is generally considered to be the best mafia film made. Karen Hill was such a "nobody" in the film that it launched Lorraine Bracco's career. The suggestion to delete this entry is typical Wikipedia busybodying.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.143.159.186 (talk) 13:48, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
People wanting to know what happened to her does not mean she is notable. Her two kids writing books does not mean she is notable (maybe the kids are though?). The movie being in the top 100 does not mean she is notable. The actress that played her in the film did not win awards because of Mrs. Hill, she won the awards because she is a good actress. The bottom line is this, What did Karen Hill do that would make her notable enough to warrant her own article on Wikipedia? hint: being married to a mobster doesn't count, nor does being played by a good actress... - Adolphus79 (talk) 16:10, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Being married to someone is not notable, see WP:NOTINHERITED... - Adolphus79 (talk) 16:16, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget 22:37, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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