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The result was delete. Notability seems to hinge for keep voters on his fame and his being a recipient of the Taraggi medal. The claim of fame has not been substantiated by sources and editors favoring delete suggest that the Taraggi medal is too common to convey notability. Barkeep49 (talk) 17:05, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Damed Imanov

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Notability is under question. Doesn't meet criterias of WP:BLP Toghrul Rahimli (talk) 06:51, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Azerbaijan-related deletion discussions. Toghrul Rahimli (talk) 06:51, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Damed Imanov's article meets this criterion
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  1. The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times.
  2. The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in a specific field.--Elshad Iman (Elşad İman) (talk) 07:25, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

He led the fleet of such a large company as SOCAR, and this in itself proves that he is an important person.--Elshad Iman (Elşad İman) (talk) 18:55, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also Damed Imanov was awarded more than 20 honourary rewards. In 2010, he was awarded honourary diploma “Inam” upon the order of Trade Union of Media Workers Presidium. For his further achievements he was honoured an international award of Ukraine and Russia – 1 degree order of “Cossack glory”. On the 90th anniversary of the Great Leader Heydar Aliyev, the “Dede Gorgud” International Foundation honoured Damed Imanov with the national reward of “In the name of peace on earth”.

He was awarded the Medal "For services in the shipping industry" by the Order of the President of the Republic of Azerbaijan and its this proves that HE made a wide contribution to the ship industry.--Elshad Iman (Elşad İman) (talk) 19:28, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Reference 2[4] meets the GNG, I think. The publication seems OK. It is a happy birthday article, featuring a notable person not connected to the publication, and it contains significant commentary on the subject. The other references do not, but do substantiate a series of awards that he has won. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 13:46, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. az:Daməd_İmanov has been deleted three times, and is currently deleted. There appears to be irregularities with the article history and deletion discussion. Sort it out on the native language Wikipedia before attempting re-creation here. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 09:28, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, xinbenlv Talk, Remember to "ping" me 03:43, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
So you pinged only the people who had voted "keep" at the time. Smells like WP:CANVASSING to me. 1292simon (talk) 13:10, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In this case, we see that there is a clear advantage in voting on this decision, and the arguments of Wikipedists justify the preservation of the article. Let the decision be made by the Wikipedia community, and not on a personal basis! Strong keep--Elshad Iman (Elşad İman) (talk) 16:20, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@1292simon: the situation is complicated indeed, but i can clarify. The article was first deleted by Eminn and he closed the AfD as Delete. Then, a few days later, Cekli829 came back and changed the decision for no reason. It was against the rules so Eminn redeleted it. I don't know whether there were personal ties between Elshad Iman (Elşad İman) and Cekli829, but it is what it is. After a few weeks Cekli was dismissed from administrators list by Meta-Wiki for abusing admin rights. As a result, the article was deleted by NMW03, because Cekli was not an impediment anymore. And recently Elshad Iman applied to restore the page here. Some other details are not related to the article. My point is that, the medals Damed İmanov received don't make him be notable. For instance this list shows a certain fraction of official state medal and awards. As you can see there are orders which are on the top line. They are more important. There are tens of medals of Azerbaijan and they are awarded to thousands of people by President of Azerbaijan. Obviously, the list are announced on the official website of the President. He doesn't officially hand the awards, except for most important 3-4 orders. For instance in these lists, you can see how many people are awarded with Taraggi: [8] [9]. The section "“Tərəqqi” medalı ilə" shows the list - almost 80 people within two decrees. And the complete list of recipients goes beyond that (maybe thousands). His second award is nothing special either - it's a medal, not an order in the end. Due to the fact that this medal is recently-established and only given to sailors, it's less awarded. A large portion of sailors and even civil servants receive at least one or two medals during their service in Azerbaijan. --Toghrul Rahimli (talk) 08:24, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I remember that there was a conflict of interest among the managers who even wrote that I was the same person as the manager of Cekli829, but this is not true (what is written in the discussion of the article is similar to this baseless claim).

I think that this article should not cause us to oppose it because it is scandalous. My personal opinion is not the main one, but I applied for restoration in the Azerbaijan section based on encyclopedic criteria. For example, this article [10] is exactly the same as Damed Imanov's article. This person has been awarded the Progress Award and has other achievements. Thanks! --Elshad Iman (Elşad İman) (talk) 03:00, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Elshad Iman (Elşad İman): the person has a honorary title of "Honored Engineer of Azerbaijan" he is considered as a notable person. --Toghrul Rahimli (talk) 08:24, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Now the company is one of the most promising oil companies in the world, and the prospects for socio-economic development of Azerbaijan are associated with its activities. Leaders and the most active in public activities representatives of fairly influential political and public non-political organizations are considered encyclopedic personalities.

Pay attention to the article, about a person is also written in the Azerbaijani state newspaper, in the Azerbaijani book there is an article about him, several times awarded by the President of the Republic. All this gives reason to keep the article here. He is a man who has dedicated his life to shipping in Azerbaijan.--Elshad Iman (Elşad İman) (talk) 14:09, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Including sections in other languages. So this is not an argument. Additionally, see WP:AADD in the words “No interwiki.”--Elshad Iman (Elşad İman) (talk) 14:52, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

1) Independent source: about “Damed Imanov”, on the portal of the state newspaper of the Azerbaijan Caspian Shipping Company (asco.az), on the portal of the Azerbaijan encyclopedia (ens.az), in the international magazine of Azerbaijan (mir-azerbaydjana.az), on the independent socio-political published in the newspaper (vyshka) and other sites.

2) Authoritative source: About "Damed Imanov", published on the authorized and official website of the President of the Republic of Azerbaijan (President.az).

The page is free of spelling errors, long monologues, unstructured material that creates the frame, information that has been translated from another language and cannot be verified, myths, lies and slander.

· The page is not intended for vandalism.

· The page is unique and is not a copy of any page.

· The page is not spam, the content of the page is based on facts only.

I ask for an investigation and a consensus.Premeditated Chaos Thanks!--Elshad Iman (Elşad İman) (talk) 13:59, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Elshad Iman (Elşad İman): Why do you ping other admins, to help to keep the article? You did this many times and warned. Not to mention that you have been blocked several times on azwiki, one them them for suing admins for deletion. There's no need to worry about the result of the discussion, even i have an article deleted here, and abide by the decision of the community.
It's obvious that you can create tens of millions of biography articles based on your criterias (neutrality, correct information; so on and so forth). If they don't meet notability of Wikipedia, then they are not encyclopedic. Let's not exaggerate the discussion with overt and unhelpful information and keep room for other volunteers to contribute to the topic. Thanks! --Toghrul Rahimli (talk) 15:46, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. It's feels like Elshad Iman is trying to WP:BLUDGEON through a Keep outcome here. Cheers, 1292simon (talk) 21:25, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know why on earth I'm being pinged here; I have nothing to do with this discussion or this topic. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 22:37, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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