The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete, the keep arguments are not very convincing as it did not address the isuse of notability for me. Although there are more keep votes than delete votes, the deletion policy favors the deletion of this article rather than keep, as the keep argument failed to convince me the notability of the subject by the standard set out by WP:N Yamamoto Ichiro 会話 17:05, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Christian Filippella[edit]

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Non-notable. Still a film student; prizes are not notable enough in their own right to confer notability on the subject, either. Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note to admins - Several of the contributors to this discussion have been accused of sockpuppetry.

• Keep If someone can find a source for the awards. --RucasHost (talk) 11:52, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Sources have been added. He went back studying after winning International Festivals prizes and important awards. Also won the only Fulbright Award from Italy as best young Italian filmmaker. Directed and produced short films in Ireland (Northern Ireland Film Commission), Spain, Italy and USA --User:Lucky Luke —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.170.62.203 (talk) 18:17, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fulbright Award winners are not notable on that basis, nor are festival participants, regardless of the degree of international production they've participated in. The question is whether or not the filmmaker has been recognized as a notable figure by multiple, independent, and reliable sources. Period. From the editing history of the more notable contributor, this gives the appearance of a vanity article. Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 20:57, 11 January 2008 (UTC)![reply]

• Keep He has also won 2 Philip Morris Awards, the Sergio Corbucci prize, the prestigious "Golden capitello" at "Sant'Agata dei Goti Film Festival", the Deviate Award in Northern Ireland, the Cultural and Diversity program Award, the Deviate project, RIFF Award, European Film Festival special mention in 2003, Fujii film prize in 2008 and many others. His films have been selected in many International Film Festivals. "Il Rigore piu' lungo del Mondo" was chosen as one of the 8 best student films in the world in 2004. He has also been invited to screen his works at the Fine Arts Theater in Beverly Hills for a special event and Q&A last July in 2007 where he got many positive reviews from well known journalists. In fact this page was created after that event. He has been interviewed many times and most recently by one of the oldest magazines of film in the industry (The business of film - note source reference on his profile and on IMDB) as one of the most promising young directors in Hollywood. Note official sources added on his profile. Trueart
  • Note to closing admin: COI issue - This user's contribution history shows him to actually be the subject of the article. Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 02:07, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Note to closing admin: COI issue - The user who created this page was omniarerum. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trueart (talk • contribs) 23:06, 17 January 2008 (UTC) [reply]
      • I said subject, not author. Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 03:30, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak delete There's no evidence that the prizes are important. Precedent here is against considering Fulbright as sufficient for notability, and there's little else. DGG (talk) 22:15, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. None of his films passes the criteria of the Wikipedia:Notability (films) guideline. Per Wikipedia:Generally notable people we expect that creative professionals will meet one of the following:

• The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by their peers or successors.
• The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory or technique.
• The person has created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, which has been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews.

Winning student film awards does not give him recognition at the level we expect to see. Wait a few years for him to create a significant body of work that will receive a lot of attention from reliable sources. EdJohnston (talk) 21:43, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

*Keep He passes 2 of the main 3 criteria of the Wikipedia:Notability (films) guideline. He is known in the independent industry for his stylized filmmaking approach defined as Fantastic realism or Magic realism. Two of his short films have been made into feature films El Penalti más largo del mundo from Osvaldo Soriano's book and Thermae 2'40. Sources show multiple independent articles or reviews. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.167.237.186 (talk) 23:40, 14 January 2008 (UTC) [reply]

Duplicate of above IP. ^Avruchtalk 02:21, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Speedy Keep Independent sources of sufficient depth and article passes 2 of the 3 criteria of the Wikipedia:Notability (films) guideline. Evidence and arguments presented for deletion are weak. Savonarola's judgmental reasons are personal, there is not neutral pov and the use of terms like "vanity" may cause real problems for the Foundation and should always be avoided in a deletion discussion as expressly indicated in wikipedia's deletion guide. Trueart (talk) 15;30, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Already voted above. Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 23:54, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Sources were added. Notable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Omniarerum (talk • contribs) 23:47, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Edit history indicates possible sock. Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 23:54, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• • Note to closing admin: COI issue - Edited page to differentiate from other user wrongly identified as the author of the article Omniarerum (talk • contribs) 00:28, 18 January 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.172.5.130 (talk) (See above note on COI. Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 03:30, 18 January 2008 (UTC))[reply]
• Weak keep - this filmmaker could be notable, but I'd like to see better proof of the awards and film festivals -- film reviews, interviews on TV or in trade publications, speaking tours, rapid rotation in the film festival web site, etc. I've actually created two similar articles, and have cited such evidence of notability. Also, while the filmmaker must be independently notable from the films, if there were any question, I would merge any of the films into the article about the auteur. Bearian (talk) 01:41, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, the examples to compare are Teodoro Maniaci and Brook Silva-Braga; note the number of cites and the edit histories of each. Bearian (talk) 01:48, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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