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The result was keep as notable company (but cleanup). -Patstuart^{(talk)(contribs)} 08:42, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ahlstrom[edit]

Fails WP:SPAM. This reads like an advertisement and does not provide any verification, with sources or otherwise. Diez2 00:30, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete- Wikipedia isn't the place for advertisements.--SUIT 01:35, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Per nom... Spawn Man 02:22, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. This is a big company with 5700 employees and annual revenue of 1,552.6 million euros. -- TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 02:35, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Week Delete Article needs to be cleaned up - reads too much like an advertisement. Maybe add more about history and a negitive attributes of the company. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Markco1 (talk • contribs) 02:39, 20 November 2006
Comment. I added another reference. This one deals with job losses in Pennsylvania as a result of Ahlstrom moving production to South Carolina. As well, there is an article about the company in the Finnish Wikipedia at --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 03:12, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Seems to be a publicly traded company (though I'm not sure which market it's on). Over 5000 employees and annual revenues in the billions of Euros. Also tons of media mentions and third party sources:
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- In fact, just check out the many, many pages of hits on Google News. --Wafulz 04:57, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and cleanup 150 year old company with over 1.5 Euros in revenue? Seems quite notable to me. Resolute 05:07, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete unless better sources can be found-"sources" cited above and on Google News all seem to be reprinted press releases (many are even still signed "Ahlstrom Corporation". Will change to keep if independent sources are available, but I'm not finding them.Change to keep as independent sources were provided. Still needs ad cleanup though. Seraphimblade 05:12, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a few more:

This is easily one of the larger corporations around. I'm sure if someone spoke Finnish they'd be able to find more sources for us too- I sincerely doubt a 150-year-old listed composites manufacturer making billions of dollars each year has marginal independent sourcing. --Wafulz 05:36, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This is plainly a notable company. It's a case for ((advert)), not ((subst:afd)). -- Shunpiker 05:44, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and Cleanup: Definitely a notable European company. Ben W Bell talk 08:19, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and Cleanup, what more can I say.-- danntm ^T _C 14:59, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, a listed and known company, though needs a cleanup. STTW (talk) 21:26, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Notable Finnish company. Article needs some rewriting but isn't the spammiest I've ever seen. -THB 20:29, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Just being listed on a stock market indice is a qulifier under WP:CORP. Notable finish company. --Oakshade 04:59, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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